[BLAZEr]

Ok,

I've read the entire New Testament and no where did I see the words "Scripture Alone"

Can a Protestant please tell me where that is in the Bible?

[mulls]

sure, as soon as you give me the criteria for peter's sucessors as pope...who they are to be, and how they are to be selected.


rhetorical for rhetorical

[BLAZEr]

Ah, but that's your problem. You think everything has to be in the scriputres. We don't. So, if I say to you that it is part of Apostolic Tradition that the method for determining the successors of Peter is defined, and that this part of the Tradition handed down by Word and Letter (2 Thess 2:15) then you have to show me that the constant Tradition of the Church for 2000 years is wrong. And I would merely point out that this method was never in dispute by the church for 1400 years.

However, if you believe that Scripture Alone is the valid way to understand what Christ taught, then you have to show, based on your scriputre alone theory, where the scripture says this.

But nonetheless, you have to concede that the Apostles (with Peter's leadership notice) decided on a method to replace Judas. So there is a scriptural basis for the Apostles selecting the successor of another apostle. And I think we can safely assume that they might have developed another method later, like coming together and deciding who would succeed Peter when he died . . . in fact, we known in Tradition that this is the case. That a successor to peter was in fact selected. And a successor to his successor and a successor to his succesor . . . all the way down the line . . . Imagine that!

[nippy316]

Blaze, you read my mind.
Now if only I could make my prot. friends understand that they believe in SCRIPTURE ALONE.

[Anna]

A most excellent post, BLAZEr.
All of the books in the world could not possibly contain all that Christ instructed His apostles.
And that's in the Bible! ;)

Pax Christi. <><

[CatholicAndFanatical]

here we go again with more side stepping from our prot friends, notice how the question was never answered but rather avoided?

Keep this up you'll be doin the electric slide around our questions.

Excellent post BLAZEr, too bad it probably wont be answered


CatholicAndFanatical

[Dave]

CatholicAndFanatical, on Oct 3 2003, 10:44 AM, said:

Keep this up you'll be doin the electric slide around our questions.

You can't see it -- it's electric -- boogie woogie woogie
You gotta feel it -- it's electric -- boogie woogie woogie
Ooh, it's shocking -- it's electric -- boogie woogie woogie

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[CatholicAndFanatical]

:lol:

thats good Dave


its sad I was actually getting into it then all of a sudden

*RIIP* :blink:

pants rip'd..DOH!

[Paladin D]

Dave, on Oct 3 2003, 12:52 PM, said:

CatholicAndFanatical, on Oct 3 2003, 10:44 AM, said:

Keep this up you'll be doin the electric slide around our questions.

You can't see it -- it's electric -- boogie woogie woogie
You gotta feel it -- it's electric -- boogie woogie woogie
Ooh, it's shocking -- it's electric -- boogie woogie woogie

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Something Benny Hinn would say.

[thedude]

Quote

sure, as soon as you give me the criteria for peter's sucessors as pope...who they are to be, and how they are to be selected.


rhetorical for rhetorical

All you had to do was perform a simple internet search. Check this out: http://www.cbcisite....ionofapope.html

As for Sola Scriptura:
"Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours."
2 Thessalonians 2:15
Paul tells us to preserve the traditions of the Church.

"I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions, just as I handed them on to you."
1 Corinthians 11:2
Paul praises the Corinthians for holding on to the tradition he passed to them.

"And for this reason we too give thanks to God unceasingly, that,in receiving the word of God from hearing us, you received not a human word but, as it truly is, the word of God, which is now atwork in you who believe."
1 Thessalonians 2:13
Paul tells the Thessalonians that the word of God is preserved through tradition.

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age."
Matthew 28:19-20
In Matthew's Gospel, Jesus tells the Apostles to preach to all people. He tells them to teach the people what he taught them.

[BLAZEr]

I'm not surprised,
no not one bit
That a not a single Protestant has seen it fit
To respond and reconcile the problem that was posed.
I guess another door to Truth was quickly closed.

[littleflower+JMJ]

i think this has to be the shortest thread on sola scriptura in a long time...

ya know i have the patrick madrid 2 cassette tape on his public debate against Protestant James White on the subject Sola Scripture.

James White is a protestant is very anti-catholic. his sister, who was just like him converted to Catholicism!! Praise God!! (read about her in "Surprised by Truth "Part 3)

funny...patrick madrid asked him the exact same thing and that guy did not have the answer.

patrick madrid bought down the house with the truth of catholicism.

its awesome, you got to get it.

B)

[FX2]

i think the protestants are quiet cus they are scared. I mean BLAZEr not many people are as brave as you to go onto another religions websited and argue that ur religion is the right one. I know u would do it tho BLAZEr :P But see I know that ours is the one true religion and if i was in a protastants shoes i would be intimidate to speak up on her because i would imedialy be shot down becuase Catholocism is the true religion. I hope what im typing makes sence. if not, ignore this message

JP2 WE <3 U!

~Fx

[Paladin D]

FX2, on Oct 6 2003, 10:23 PM, said:

I hope what im typing makes sence.  if not, ignore this message

JP2 WE <3 U!

~Fx

It makes sense, just a lot of spelling errors. :lol:

[ICTHUS]

Bumpp

[Legion]

Blaze, I hate to tell you but "faith alone" is in the Bible...
James 2:24
You must perceive that a person is justified by his works and not by FAITH ALONE.
GOD BLESS

[foundsheep]

Legion, on Oct 7 2003, 08:22 PM, said:

Blaze, I hate to tell you but "faith alone" is in the Bible...
James 2:24
You must perceive that a person is justified by his works and not by FAITH ALONE.
GOD BLESS

??????????????where did that Come From???????????
Faith alone is in there but the verse is saying you must have works, whats that got to do with sola scriptura-bible alone? :huh:

[Trooper4DaHolyG]

John 8:31-32
31 ..."If you abide in My word, you are My disciples inDouche...
32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Hebrews 4:12
12 ... the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Col 3:16-17
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17 And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

Also if Jesus is the Word, and Jesus is your role moded, your God and your saviour. How can Sola Scriptura be proven wrong?

[ICTHUS]

Those verses do nothing for Sola Scriptura. They simply prove that the Word of God is, in fact, the Word of God, and powerful.

Catholics agree.

[Trooper4DaHolyG]

Sola Scriptura and Sola Fidelity to do not clash against biblical teaching as they form a Kingdom Culture...