Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I missed the part where the Tiara actually ISN'T dropped from the papal coat of arms, or at least there is confusion as to whether or not it is.... well, at least that's what Wikipedia says: [quote]For a millennium until the reign of Benedict XVI it had been one of the ornaments surrounding a Pope's personal coat of arms. In a controversial break with tradition, on the first version of Benedict's personal coat of arms the tiara was replaced with the papal mitre. The mitre contains three levels reminiscent of the three tiers on the papal tiara.[3] This was the first such use since Pope Paul VI prohibited the use of mitres and croziers on coats of arms in 1969.[4] However the Vatican subsequently issued documents which contained Benedict's coat of arms showing a tiara, not a mitre. It is unclear whether the initial arms announced have been withdrawn, or whether it is proposed to use two alternate designs, a "personal" set of arms with a mitre, and an official "state" set of arms for Benedict with a tiara.[/quote] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Tiara"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Tiara[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d7/Arms14j1a.JPG/380px-Arms14j1a.JPG[/img] I like it much better like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/fsfy007/Benedict%20XVI/45db96d0.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/fsfy007/Benedict%20XVI/0cd33084.jpg[/img] Hmm very interesting indeed, since the one with the mitre apears on many things that are "official" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jul 20 2005, 11:26 PM'][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d7/Arms14j1a.JPG/380px-Arms14j1a.JPG[/img] I like it much better like that... [right][snapback]652060[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Wow. It should definatly be like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 Wikipedia (oh yeah... the most authoritative source lol) says it has the tiara on some official DOCUMENTS... oh, and the garden behind St. Peter's has it this way: [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Benedictxvi-arms-flowers.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jul 20 2005, 11:33 PM']Wikipedia (oh yeah... the most authoritative source lol) says it has the tiara on some official DOCUMENTS... oh, and the garden behind St. Peter's has it this way: [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Benedictxvi-arms-flowers.jpg[/img] [right][snapback]652072[/snapback][/right] [/quote] hmm.. i wonder if i could grow my flowers like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 It looks much more popey that way. I like it better with the tiara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamweaver Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Yay, Pope Benedict! Heh, I'm a papal fangirl. He has an awesome garden in his backyard. I do like the papal tiara in the Coat of Arms; looks much more kingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 wait they look all the same to me... there's a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 there's either a tiara or a bishop's miter above the coat of arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 ahhh i see it now. apparently, people were surprised he didn't have a coronation ceremony.... maybe hes giving a message by not using the tiara what that is i'm not sure, but i kinda like the tiara one better too, its more popey and fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 I don't think many, except some traditionalists who don't understand who ratzinger is, expected him to have a coronation. Paul VI laid it down (but apparently still expected his successor to be coronated) but John Paul I and John Paul II both refused to be coronated... no one expected Benedict to be coronated. They were surprised at him taking out the tiara from the coat of arms though, but now who knows what the final word on the coat of arms will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jul 21 2005, 12:21 AM']I don't think many, except some traditionalists who don't understand who ratzinger is, expected him to have a coronation. Paul VI laid it down (but apparently still expected his successor to be coronated) but John Paul I and John Paul II both refused to be coronated... no one expected Benedict to be coronated. They were surprised at him taking out the tiara from the coat of arms though, but now who knows what the final word on the coat of arms will be [right][snapback]652127[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Lets go steal all the things that have his coat of arms on it with the mitre, draw the tiara over it in marker, and put them back. He will never notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 :rotfl: I'm in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 bump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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