[nunsense]

I was watching these videos and sent them to my sister-in-law because she speaks French. Some of them are in French and one show a Pre-Vat 2 Carmel, but the life doesn't change all that much, and I just thought some of you Carmel lovers would like to see them. There is one final profession video that made me just ache for the day it is my final profession!

Some are in Spanish.

Enjoy.

Final Profession (black veil) of a nun in Mexico

Salve Regina
We used to sing this every Saturday

Carmelites Paris 1966
Visit to a Carmelite convent,1966, where for the first time a report is made on the activities of these religious, totally cut off from the outside world ... filmed their lives since risng at 5:40 until bedtime at 10:30pm,- meals, prayer, processions in the corridors and hours of joyful ,even musical relaxation.1966 back when they had no heat,and still Chanted in Latin.
Notice the Priest celebrating in French,facing the 'congregation' side, and the Novus Ordo, less than one year after the closing of Vatican II and 3 years befor the official promulgation of the New Ordinary reformed Mass of Pope Paul VI.

Carmelites of Chile (St Tersa of the Andes)
This trailer presents the first 6 minutes of the CRTN - documentary "The Carmelites of Chile."

Production Date: 2006
Duration: 27

Copyright : CRTN
Language: German, Czech
Executive Producer: Mark Riedemann
Director: Agnieszka Dzieduszycka

The countries of South America received Christianity from the hands of European colonisers. The first believers in Christ appeared in Chile in the sixteenth century but for various reasons, countries evangelised by the Spaniards were not empowered to set up contemplative orders. The Spaniards encouraged and facilitated the establishment of active orders only. That is why the likes of the Carmelites or Benedictine or Clarist orders arrived only after independence - not until the nineteenth century. The great shortage and need for contemplative convents continues to burden this Church.

Viewed through the perspective of Teresa of Jesus of Los Andes, the first Chilean saint and a Carmelite nun, the program considers the role of cloistered convents in Chile and the impact and support that this provides for the faithful and society.

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[TotusTuusMaria]

ooo where do i get a copy of that documentary?

[nunsense]

which one??

[TotusTuusMaria]

Carmelites of Chile?

[nunsense]

TotusTuusMaria, on Apr 19 2009, 03:17 AM, said:

Carmelites of Chile?

I don't know but I found this site for Carmelitas Descalzas de Chile It has a list of Monasteries to write to - maybe one of them knows... ???

[puellapaschalis]

I found the docu about the Parisian Carmel absolutely fascinating - from a liturgical point of view, that is (I'm a bit of a liturgy snob, I think, probably part of the Benedictine-ness :P ). As noted in EJames' comments: Mass offered not ad Deum and in the vernacular in that very turbulent time between 1962 and 1969. I had expected that Carmel would have retained the Mass they had known until the 1969 promulgation, but maybe I'm just naive?

My language skills put me to shame: when the sisters are chanting the Office, are they doing so in Latin or French?

Sorry if this is off-topic for VS :blush:

[nunsense]

puellapaschalis, on Apr 19 2009, 03:48 AM, said:

I found the docu about the Parisian Carmel absolutely fascinating - from a liturgical point of view, that is (I'm a bit of a liturgy snob, I think, probably part of the Benedictine-ness :P ). As noted in EJames' comments: Mass offered not ad Deum and in the vernacular in that very turbulent time between 1962 and 1969. I had expected that Carmel would have retained the Mass they had known until the 1969 promulgation, but maybe I'm just naive?

My language skills put me to shame: when the sisters are chanting the Office, are they doing so in Latin or French?

Sorry if this is off-topic for VS :blush:

I watched the Paris 1966 video again and couldn't understand them so had my sister-in-law listen and she said that they are not singing in French, so it must be Latin!

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I forgot to include the links to the series on French nuns that I sent to my sister-in-law because I got distracted by all the other neat videos on youtube -:rolleyes:

Here they are - these are all from a longer video - ifyou don't speak French, then some of it might be slow for you - when he is interviewing nuns - but it does show the life as well, starting at around 3 minutes into the INTRO where a nun is making altar breads. At about 6 minutes - they are having recreation.


START - INTRO


PART 1

PART 1 is the Salve Regina

PART 2

In PART 2 at around 1 min 45 there is a nun making altar breads again

PART 3

In PART 3 a nun is doing leatherwork on their sandals, another one is working on a vestment

PART 4

In PART 4 - there is inside the convent and a cell


Part 5

PART 5 is almost all interview in French, and then views inside for about 30 seconds from 4 minutes 45.

This guy has done a whole series on monasteries in France. Here is the link to his videos on youtube.

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And I found this one of Carmelites in Samoa at the funeral of a Cardinal -- I like their long veils - the ones we wored were shorter and had a pleat in the back. These ones are nicer!

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[NisiTe]

puellapaschalis, on Apr 19 2009, 05:48 AM, said:

I found the docu about the Parisian Carmel absolutely fascinating - from a liturgical point of view, that is (I'm a bit of a liturgy snob, I think, probably part of the Benedictine-ness :P ). As noted in EJames' comments: Mass offered not ad Deum and in the vernacular in that very turbulent time between 1962 and 1969. I had expected that Carmel would have retained the Mass they had known until the 1969 promulgation, but maybe I'm just naive?

My language skills put me to shame: when the sisters are chanting the Office, are they doing so in Latin or French?

Sorry if this is off-topic for VS :blush:

I speak French and they are definitely not chanting in French...I love this video though, it is one of my favorites! :saint:

[Orans]

Thank you, Nunsense, for these great videos, especially the Paris Carmelites!

puellapaschalis, on Apr 19 2009, 04:48 AM, said:

when the sisters are chanting the Office, are they doing so in Latin or French?

I can recognize some words and they are in Latin, although with a strong French accent, of course: "Domine", "et Spiritui Sancto", and some others I could identify clearly. It seems they are praying in Latin.

[truthfinder]

nunsense, on Apr 19 2009, 01:44 PM, said:

And I found this one of Carmelites in Samoa at the funeral of a Cardinal -- I like their long veils - the ones we wored were shorter and had a pleat in the back. These ones are nicer!

If you look at the nuns when they are processing in, the long veil is on top of the shorter veil which is tucked under the scapular. Their shorter veil would probably have a pleat in it. I like it when Carmelites wear two veils, but very few do it any more.

[nunsense]

truthfinder, on Apr 19 2009, 09:28 PM, said:

If you look at the nuns when they are processing in, the long veil is on top of the shorter veil which is tucked under the scapular. Their shorter veil would probably have a pleat in it. I like it when Carmelites wear two veils, but very few do it any more.

Well, there is actually more than one style of veil, even for those who wear two. At both Wolverhampton and Edmonton, they wore two veils, but the top ones were still shorter than those in the video and had the center seam. I have seen some Carmels with the longer top veil, with no center seam down the back.

Our working veil was tucked in but the top veil was worn out, and secured with one straight pin and taken off when doing any kind of work, folded and put to one side. For Sundays and Solemnities, there was a "best" veil that was worn instead of the regular top veil. This was the same for Novices, although our veil was white instead of black.

[truthfinder]

nunsense, on Apr 19 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

Well, there is actually more than one style of veil, even for those who wear two. At both Wolverhampton and Edmonton, they wore two veils, but the top ones were still shorter than those in the video and had the center seam. I have seen some Carmels with the longer top veil, with no center seam down the back.

Our working veil was tucked in but the top veil was worn out, and secured with one straight pin and taken off when doing any kind of work, folded and put to one side. For Sundays and Solemnities, there was a "best" veil that was worn instead of the regular top veil. This was the same for Novices, although our veil was white instead of black.

Thanks for the info. I usually forget about there being different types of veils as I usually only see one of the styles.

[EJames2]

did domeone say videos? carmel? :)
well since some of the Youtube videos are gone, here are the Gloria.tv (original) versions.
http://gloria.tv/?media=13289
the Carmel 1966 at Montmartre(Sacre Coeur) Paris, the Sisters sing/respond in French to the Priests French, but, chant the Divine Office in latin, since the books-translations for the Office in French were not ready for use in Carmels at that time.
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http://gloria.tv/?media=1369
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http://gloria.tv/?media=1368

http://gloria.tv/?media=1366
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http://gloria.tv/?media=1367
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a Carmelites Life..given for Souls
http://gloria.tv/?media=4413
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Ste. Elisabeth de la Trinité~
http://gloria.tv/?media=7250
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Carmel at Ars
http://gloria.tv/?media=10232

http://gloria.tv/?media=10249

http://www.gloria.tv/?media=13488

http://www.gloria.tv/?media=24836
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Die Karmelitinnen von Nenshat
http://gloria.tv/?media=1283
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St Therese Lisieux
http://www.gloria.tv/?media=15010
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Quebec
http://fr.gloria.tv/?media=13482
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http://www.thejesust..._Carmelite_Nun/
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http://vocation-stat...-of-church.html
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