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In Topic: Interview
Today, 01:09 AM
"Do you ever worry that, say, five ten or twenty years down the road, you might realize that you've made the wrong choice? Or think that you might have? If you do have that worry, how do you deal with it? If that were to happen, how would you respond?" -
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In Topic: The Latin Language And Catholicism
Today, 12:39 AM
mommas_boy, on 08 September 2010 - 11:30 PM, said:This is currently a topic on much discussion at the Catholic School where I teach. Many of the teachers are up in arms about the pastor's decision to include Latin parts in an English Mass. I find myself trying hard to defend the decision. I understand why the Church needs a universal and immutable (unchanging) language, but why does the Church need one that is non-vernacular? Is it precisely because non-vernacular means universal? That is, by having a language that no one uses, the Church is not "playing favorites"?
That would be part of it, certainly. I've heard the argument that Latin doesn't favour one culture over another. Non vernacular also reinforces immutable, in my mind. A vernacular language is constantly affected by words taking on new connotations... think "fag", "retarded", etc..
Also, and this is speculation, I'm assuming that a vernacular language could be considered to seem less dignified because of its being taken for granted in everyday life. Use of a language with which we're not familiar could be said to provide a certain dignity by shaking us into paying attention, so to speak. -
In Topic: Disagreement With Fallible Magisterium
Today, 12:34 AM
I apologize for posting in a thread that you locked, but I just want to clarify a little bit.
30. does indeed say "In cases like these, the theologian should avoid turning to the "mass media", but have recourse to the responsible authority, for it is not by seeking to exert the pressure of public opinion that one contributes to the clarification of doctrinal issues and renders servite to the truth."
We have to make sure we're checking what "cases like these" refers to. We're not dealing with the same section that Slappo quoted. The immediately preceding passages in 28, 29 and 30 present the cases to which we are referring:
28. The preceding considerations have a particular application to the case of the theologian who might have serious difficulties, for reasons which appear to him wellfounded, in accepting a non-irreformable magisterial teaching.
Such a disagreement could not be justified if it were based solely upon the fact that the validity of the given teaching is not evident or upon the opinion that the opposite position would be the more probable. Nor, furthermore, would the judgment of the subjective conscience of the theologian justify it because conscience does not constitute an autonomous and exclusive authority for deciding the truth of a doctrine.
29. In any case there should never be a diminishment of that fundamental openness loyally to accept the teaching of the Magisterium as is fitting for every believer by reason of the obedience of faith. The theologian will strive then to understand this teaching in its contents, arguments, and purposes. This will mean an intense and patient reflection on his part and a readiness, if need be, to revise his own opinions and examine the objections which his colleagues might offer him.
30. If, despite a loyal effort on the theologian's part, the difficulties persist, the theologian has the duty to make known to the Magisterial authorities the problems raised by the teaching in itself, in the arguments proposed to justify it, or even in the manner in which it is presented. He should do this in an evangelical spirit and with a profound desire to resolve the difficulties. His objections could then contribute to real progress and provide a stimulus to the Magisterium to propose the teaching of the Church in greater depth and with a clearer presentation of the arguments.
Non-irreformable would be infallible teachings. This is what we're referring to in the latter part of section 30.
So yea, just clarification. Knowledge is power, yea? Again, I apologize for my presumption in posting on a thread you locked. I won't make a habit of it. -
In Topic: The Problem With Socialists
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Mr Cat, on 08 September 2010 - 09:02 PM, said:Actually, I agree and you would of read that if you read any of my previous posts on this topic... The reason I apologized. To expect the level of scholastic honesty that I was isn't appropriate for Phatmass or the Internet. This isn't an institution of higher learning... But you need to get that I am a person of facts.
You can shout loud as you want any opinion you want, it's your freedom, in fact I welcome you to do so. But you won't convene me of anything unless you can present to me facts. Which in this case there are no facts in dispute. Thus, there isn't anywhere to go with this.
I haven't proposed anything nonfactual, no personal attacks was made, and an admission that my comment was inappropriate and an apology. Unless your telling me to coddle KnightofChrist's posts because you feel affiliated somehow to them, there is not much more for me to do. This is the debate phourm, plenty of people share harsh opinions about other users perspectives or opinions. KnightofChrist doesn't need anyone defending him from mean old mr cat...
I apologize. I missed your own apology to KnightofChrist.
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Tridenteen
03 Sep 2010 - 17:30Joe, check your pm's
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27 Aug 2010 - 22:04I acn be nasty and visiously sarcastic and demaeanign to people's opinions still? WEee
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27 Aug 2010 - 21:43well, ya better weep more...I guess I can't be nasty on threads anymore. never mind
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