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LilyofSaintMaria
I was wondering who here knows about the wonderful method of consecration to Mary by St. Louis de Montfort. huh.gif I know of a couple communities who make this consecration a big part of their life. The Servants of Our Lord and the Virgin of Matara, the Sisters of Mary of course, The Sisters of Charity of Mary Mother of the Church. Can you think of any others? huh.gif

Bernadette smile.gif D.gif happy.gif
shortnun
Sister Servants of the Eternal Word
memtherose
Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration.....if I remember rightly....
brendan1104
Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary - both the approved and unapproved communities. - http://www.saintbenedict.com - their whole spirit is according to St Louis Marie Grignion De Montfort.

The Carmelite Monks. - http://www.carmelitemonks.org
Tindomiel
I can't think of any others, but I'm in the process of making it now. Those websites are really inspiring. smile.gif
FutureNunJMJ
Many religious make the consecration... The Poor Clares that I visited this week had many Sisters make the consecration and were preparing to renew it today, the feast of the Annunciation smile.gif
TheresaMF
The Dominican Monastery of St. Jude. D.gif
FutureSoror
The Dominican Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist
LilyofSaintMaria
Thanks! As I was saying I am interested in the SLVM, but the Directress has been very busy and so have I, so communication has halted. Hopefully soon we can begin talking again. Here are some of the past emails she sent me. I sure can ask questions, huh? D.gif You want to know a secret desire - probably selfish on my part - but I hope and pray that these Sisters can establish themselves here in MI. I love MI and hope to help out these people here through the Consecrated Life.
Here are the emails:
Dear Bernadette:
In 1988 the Institute of the Servants of the Lord and the Virgin of Matara was founded in Argentina by Father Carlos Buela. We make up the female branch of the Religious Family of the Incarnate Word which includes the priests who were founded in 1984.
We are a missionary community who seek to bring Christ to all people through “evangelization of the culture.” The variety of our missionary work is as wide as the different cultures we encounter. We work in parishes providing catechises for children and adults as well as teaching in schools. Our works of mercy include homes for the elderly, residences for the handicapped, and homes for abandoned children. This variety of apostolate reflects the requests of the bishops and the particular conditions of the places.
Currently our community has houses throughout South America, along the East Coast of the United States, in Europe, in North Africa and the Middle East, in the former Soviet Union (Russia and Ukraine), in South East Asia and Ocenia’s Papua New Guinea.
Besides the three traditional vows of poverty, chastity and obedience we profess a fourth vow of total consecration to Mary according to the method of St Louis of Montfort.
We have daily Mass and adoration to the Blessed Sacrament for an hour every day. We pray the liturgy of the hours, the Holy Rosary and the Angelus, as well.
We also have contemplative sisters, they are cloistered nuns who dedicate their lives to pray and do penance for the salvation of souls.
Our formation includes postulancy (several months according to the needs of each candidate) and a year of novitiate followed by a three year period of study after first vows. Remaining close to the Church, we study theology, philosophy, liturgy, and spirituality in the light of St. Thomas Aquinas.
We are missionaries and therefore our facilities (buildings) depend on the places we are, we do not have individual rooms in many of the convents (consider this fact as part of living the vow of poverty). I don’t know if you checked out both of our websites for our Religious Family: www.servidoras.org and www.iveamerica.org . I’ll be sending you more information via mail as well.
If you have any other questions please feel free to e-mail at usasacred@aol.com or call me at the number above.
May Our Lord show you His will and grant you the grace to follow unreservedly.
In Christ and His Blessed Mother,
Mother Mary of the Sacred Heart, SSVM
Mistress of Novices

Dear Bernadette:

Great to hear from you. Just to answer your question about our apostolate. We are not tied to any one work. Our charism is evengelization of the culture. Our aim is to bring Christ to every person. When a bishop invites us to his diocese, we do whatever needed in that particular place. Thus we help with works of mercy like homes for abandoned children, hospitals, nursing homes. We teach in schools and chatechism classes, we work in universitiies and in publication as well. Our apostolate is very broad. In addition we have contempletive monestaries.

Many of us did get to go to Germany. Unfortunately I did not, but the sisters who went had an amazing time!!!
You are in my prayers!

In Christ
M. Sacred Heart

Dear Beradette:

It was great to hear back from you. Hope you are enjoying the summer. I was so happy to hear that you and your sister have a magazine. There is a girl from Kentuckey entering who started a magazine with her brother as well, it is called the "Frassati" in honor of Blessed Pierre Georgio.

Regarding the spiritual exercises, it is not a retreat, per say, geared only to entering our order particularly. This retreat is for all, that they may find the will of God, whatever that might be for each particular person.

Here are some ansers to your questions.


Question One:

Could you tell me about the stages of formation to a fully professed sister?


When a sister enters she is a postulant for a varied amount of time. THere is no set time for postulancy. After postulancy the sister enters the novitiate. There is one full year of novitiate. From the novitiate the sister goes to study at the Juniorate House of Studies a more in depth formation in philosophy and theology, based on the writings of St. Thomas Aquinas. Many of the sisters spend there third year of juniorate stuyding in our new university in Rome. After three years of study, the sisters are sent on mission. Sometimes sisters are sent before the three years is over if there is an urgent need in the missions.

Question Two:
Could you explain your habit? Every habit symbolizes something of the
vows or spirituality of the community. Do you always wear it?
Our habbit symbolizes the Incarnation of the Word, or the Word Made Flesh. The grey represents the humanity of Christ, while the Blue represents the Divinity of Christ. We always wear our habbit, it helps us to remember our consecration as well as helps others to be reminded of it.

Question Three:
What are the qualifications for becoming a sister? What does your
Institute prefer?
The qualification to become a sister in our order is that a person have a vocation. Girls can enter from 18 years of age and up. In other countries girls can even enter our aspirancy at an earlier age than 18. We do not have any prior schooling requirements.

Question Four:
Could you tell me the sister's daily schedule, especially concerning prayer?


In the active branch of our order, each day we have one hour of adoration, morning and eveinging prayer in community, the mass each day, rosary each day in community, confessions once a week. In our houses of studies, much of the day is focused on classes and study, as well as common work, sports and workshops to learn how to play the organ or the guitar.


Question Five:
How is your community usually sustain itself? (With prayer of course!)
But from generous donors or selling things maybe? Or do you sometimes
grow your own food? That would be awesome since I'm a farmer and I
really can't picture myself not working the ground.
We rely on divine providence. There are many generous people who donate food and money to our order. We do not grow too much food in this country. People are so generous and God always takes care of us.

Question Six:
You said the second thing to happen in order for Father Buela to found
a female branch was to find someone experienced in the religious life?
Does that mean from a different order? Which order and who became the
General Mother?

The first sister was from a different order to found. Our present General Mother is from Holland. She met the priests first in Rome, and then joined the order, Studying first in Argentina at our houses of formation there. Her name is Mother Anima Cristi.

Question Seven:
And lastly, in Part 1: Introduction: Our Religous Family:General
Principles of Our Way. 16 [Apostolate]
Fr Buela writes, "in the search and formation of suitable ministers
of the Word; in the publication of magazines, treaties, books, etc;
and in other things." Your Institute publishes magazines and books?!
Neat!! What magazines are they? Does your Institute write the content
and publish and distribute the magazines? How does that all work? I
really would like to know since I've been frantically searching for a
publisher for my sister's and mine little magazine apostolate for
Catholic Girls, dedicated of course to the patron of girls, Saint
Maria Goretti. It's a very small circulation, only around 50, but
we've been printing it up on our little family printer since we
started (about three years ago) and 50 copies are way too many to
print ourselves! At least for this year anyway, we need to find
someone who can print up our magazine for us. Would
OUr Major publications are in Rome and Argentina. I'll have to get back to you about printing in this country. We do send out newsletters however we do not print magazines or books in this country as of yet.

May God Bless you and the Virgin Mary Guide You.


In Christ,
M. Sacred Heart

Dear Bernadette:

Great to hear from you. Here are a few answers to your questions.


Question One:
Could you tell me more about the history of the Religious Families of
the Incarnate Word, particularly your's of course?


Fr. Buela was a Diocesan priest in Buenos Aires. One day he was hearing confessions and the line was so long. In that moment he had the inspirational grace to found an order of priests with a solid foundation in the teachings of the Church to be able to serve so many souls in need. He founded the priests first. There were some girls who saw the joy and zeal of the seminarians and they approached Father to ask him if he might found a female branch. A group of young women began to meet with Fr. to discuss the possibility. He gave three things that had to happen in order to found. 1 the sisters had to have a house 2. the sisters needed someone experienced in the religous life to be the General Mother 3. the sisters needed a chaplain. On the feast of St. Joseph the worker 17 years ago all three things happened and so the sisters were founded. We have the same constitutions.


Question Two:
What is its ties with Rome? Will it be raised to Pontifical Status soon?


We love the Holy Father. I'm not sure when we would be raised to pontifical status. In the history of the CHurch many orders take quite a while before they are raised to pontifical status. One year ago we were raised to an order of the dioscesan rite.



Question Three:
Could I see a close-up picture of the Cross of Matara and more about
its background?


If you look online at our website there is a close up of our cross. The cross was carved by an indigenous man of Argentina in 1594. In Argentina the cross is a symbol of Evangelizatoin of the Culture. When we were founded one of the bishops of Argentina gave us the cross. At the bottom of the cross you will see a carving of the indigenous man himself, then the fires of purgatory then, an image of the Virgin Mary dressed as a Spanish Queen, then the story of the pass, the rooster, die, spear, nails, At the top you see a symbol for creation, another for the star of Bethlehem, then a symbol of the Eucharist. At the very top the word matara is written, and a few other symbols for Mary, and finally the symbol of Alpha and Omega. We use the cross as a tool to explain the gospels. Fr. Buela says that the original cross sits on a piece of wood, but that we must imbed the cross into our hearts.


Question Four:
Could you tell me more about the spirituality and charism of your
community? Did Father Buela, your founder, write up his own set of
religious orders or did he adopt one of the great orders such as
Domincan or Franciscan?


Fr. Buela wrote our constitutions, which you can read online at www.iveamerica.org. Our constitions are not based on any one saint. However, Fr. Buela uses a lot from St. Alphonsus LIgouri, St. Louis De Montefort, St. Teresa of the Little Flower, St. John Bosco St. Teresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross, and St. Thomas Aquinas, and many other saints we take as our patron the whole community of saints in heaven especially the virigin Mary


Question Five:
Could you tell me where all the sisters are set up in the United States?


The formation houses are in the DC area. The other houses of mission are in NY city, COnneticut, Philiedelphia area, California, and Canada



Question Six:
It says in the brochure that you assist in theological and
philosophical publications. What is that?


OUr first fuor years of formation are based on the teachings of St. Thomas Aquinas. Presently we have been given the task to translate and publish the works fo Fr. Cornelius Fabro a great philospher who used the teachigns St. Thomas Aquinas to refute modern philosophy such as idealism, skepticism, empericism etc.



Question Seven:
Do you help the stop of abortion in a direct way? Looking through all
your works, protecting the unborn seems to fit in perfectly!
A group of our sisters work in Project Rachel as well as a program called Birthing and Care which provides food and medical needs to women contemplating abortion so that they will be encouraged to have their baby instead.



I will be out of town for the next three weeks or so, I am headed to NY then to Rome myself. Let me know if you have an more questions. I can't remember if you are 18 yet. If so we will host a retreat of the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatious of Loyola from July 22-24. It will be in Washington DC. It is a silent retreat to help people move forward in the life of grace and it is especially helpful to those discerning.

In Christ,
M. Sacred Heart
Rick777
QUOTE(Tindomiel @ Mar 25 2006, 09:33 AM)
I can't think of any others, but I'm in the process of making it now. Those websites are really inspiring.  smile.gif
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Me too. Todays day 3. The community I was going to say was mentioned already.
HisChild
True Devotion is one of the books I'd like to read before I enter the monastery. My SD suggested it, for me to do, at one time. I have the book but haven't read it. . . currently reading a book on the New Anti Catholicism. . .and another book on Sister Lucy (visionary at Fatima)
shortnun
Has anyone ever done the consecration according to St. Maximilian Kolbe's formula (as opposed to Louis de Montfort)?
HisChild
No. ..tell me the difference! Uhh, please, that is blush.gif
shortnun
Oh shoot, I'll have to find links. I think the difference is just in the actual words... I don't know so much about the underlying theologies.....

Kolbe Consecration

de Montfort Consecration

Nota Bene:
The websites I have linked to above are from Fisheaters. The material on the rest of the website must be taken with a grain of salt as they are openly Traditionalist (but not SSPX or FSSP). The information for the two consecrations are, to the best of my knowledge, entirely accurate as they would be found in books.

AH HA!!! The difference between the two: Univ of Dayton has great links!!!
HisChild
Thanks for the links. I read them both. I like how the Louis de Montfort consecration speaks of holy slavery! Thank you again!

Pax et bonum!
LilyofSaintMaria
Hi,
I just wanted to to post two orders that live out the Kolbe spirituality. They are both very wonderful. They are the Franciscan Sisters of Mary Immaculate and the Sisters Minor of Mary Immaculate. Sound the same, but totally different. Check them out! I don't know the URLs, but if you put them into google I'm sure that'll be the first find you get.
God bless,
Bernadette
shortnun
QUOTE(LilyofSaintMaria @ Mar 31 2006, 07:57 AM)
Hi,
I just wanted to to post two orders that live out the Kolbe spirituality. They are both very wonderful. They are the Franciscan Sisters of Mary Immaculate and the Sisters Minor of Mary Immaculate. Sound the same, but totally different. Check them out! I don't know the URLs, but if you put them into google I'm sure that'll be the first find you get.
God bless,
Bernadette
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Franciscan Sisters of Mary Immaculate

Sisters Minor of Mary Immaculate
Rick777
Yah, I personally think St. Louis Mary de Montfort's is the best, but only my opinion.
shortnun
I ran across another community who makes a consecration to Mary using the de Montfort consecration.

Servants of the Pierced Hearts of Jesus and Mary
Sadora
I absolutely love de Montfort's consecration. love.gif

I (fairly) recently researched a little bit about Kolbe's Marian consecration, but I don't know.... for me, de Montfort's "fit" better. twothumbsup.gif I did de Montfort's method last year with my consecration date of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. And reading his True Devotion changed my life. Amazing book. Still re-reading it and will continue to do so for the rest of my life.

I agree with Rick777 -- I think this is the best consecration, too.

P.S. LilyofSaintMaria, thank you for posting your e-mails. smile.gif
GodChild
St Louis is mighty waffly! happy.gif I got a headache the first time I read the 'True Devotion' as its all just a little to 'philosophical' and 'theological' for me.
I find the maternity of Mary to the be the most beautiful thing expounded in the work and I'm making the consecration for the first time on Jan 1st - the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God.

Veritas
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The Franciscan Missionaries of the Eternal Word:

"Each year, as a community, we renew our consecration to the Immaculate Mother of God, using the method of St. Louis Marie de Montfort — including the thirty-three day preparation."

~http://www.mfva.info/1/aboutus.htm





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Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary - both the approved and unapproved communities. - http://www.saintbenedict.com - their whole spirit is according to St Louis Marie Grignion De Montfort.

The Carmelite Monks. - http://www.carmelitemonks.org


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Are the Benedictines that you link to above an approved community? As a side note, they pray the rosary three times (once in Latin -yay!) every day -wow!

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Has anyone ever done the consecration according to St. Maximilian Kolbe's formula (as opposed to Louis de Montfort)?


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I have not made this consecration (I am a devotee of St. Louis Marie de Montfort's method), but this community is AWESOME (CMSWR Members) and they are totally devoted to spreading Marian Consecration via St. Maximilian Kolbe's method:

http://www.marymediatrix.com/rel_life/


As a side note, they wear one of my FAVORITE habits -I love the color!:

http://www.marymediatrix.com/rel_life/sisters.shtml
brendan1104
They're not Benedictines- they're Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and yes.

QUOTE(Veritas @ Aug 30 2006, 04:09 AM) [snapback]1053464[/snapback]

Are the Benedictines that you link to above an approved community? As a side note, they pray the rosary three times (once in Latin -yay!) every day -wow!

TeresaAvila
oh I agree it is the best, I consecrated myself last year on the feast of St. Louis Marie De Montfort, and it was such a joy, I highly recommend it to anyone!
sanctafamilia
My formor spiritual director was a tertiary of the Franciscans of the Immaculata. Her name in religion is Sr. joseph Mary Maximilian and she lives an hour from me.
shortnun
Another community that does the de Montfort consecration: Sisters of Mary, Queen
Totus Tuus
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My formor spiritual director was a tertiary of the Franciscans of the Immaculata. Her name in religion is Sr. joseph Mary Maximilian and she lives an hour from me.

And she did the Kolbean consecration or the DeMontfort consecration?
she_who_is_not
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And she did the Kolbean consecration or the DeMontfort consecration?


How do the two differ? I've read True Devotion but no very little about St. Maximillian Kolbe.
shortnun
QUOTE(she_who_is_not @ Jan 24 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]1174807[/snapback]

How do the two differ? I've read True Devotion but no very little about St. Maximillian Kolbe.

There's a thread on here somewhere that marks out the differences. When I have more time, I'll try and do a search and see if I can find it.
the lords sheep
I believe most of the Sisters of life make one of the Marian consecrations. I've talked about it with one of the Sisters before... from what I remember it is the Sister's choice which she uses but it is encourage (possibly required?) that she make one... Don't quote me though....
shortnun
bump.gif for LilyofSaintMaria

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There's a thread on here somewhere that marks out the differences. When I have more time, I'll try and do a search and see if I can find it.

Found my own post. The difference between deMontfort and Kolbe.
AlterDominicus
Geee......wowzers......I actully look forward to the consencration by Montfort here, at the smme - that was a question i was going to ask Sister Joseph Andrew when i head back there in a couple weeks.
EJames
QUOTE(Veritas @ Aug 30 2006, 12:09 AM) [snapback]1053464[/snapback]

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The Franciscan Missionaries of the Eternal Word:

"Each year, as a community, we renew our consecration to the Immaculate Mother of God, using the method of St. Louis Marie de Montfort — including the thirty-three day preparation."

~http://www.mfva.info/1/aboutus.htm
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Are the Benedictines that you link to above an approved community? As a side note, they pray the rosary three times (once in Latin -yay!) every day -wow!
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I have not made this consecration (I am a devotee of St. Louis Marie de Montfort's method), but this community is AWESOME (CMSWR Members) and they are totally devoted to spreading Marian Consecration via St. Maximilian Kolbe's method:

http://www.marymediatrix.com/rel_life/
As a side note, they wear one of my FAVORITE habits -I love the color!:

http://www.marymediatrix.com/rel_life/sisters.shtml

i met them in Rome, very Marian, and devout
have some (like 3?)pictures of them in this musical slideshow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3WdiWw7b3o

makes me think i should do a TRUE DEVOTION YouTuBe...er hmmmm
Thomist-in-Training
Bump! (I'm trying to remind myself to reread "True Devotion.")
VeniteAdoremus
Next Sunday a bunch of young adults in my diocese will make the Consecration at the convent of the Servants of the Lord and the Virgin of Matara (who already got a lot of attention in this thread smile.gif ). I'll be among them.

At the moment I just have a deal with our Mother that if I accidentally happen to do something right for a change, she gets to distribute the rewards as she sees fit (which saves me a lot of bookkeeping: "this was for the most lonely soul in purgatory, this for the second-loneliest...")
Thomist-in-Training
QUOTE(VeniteAdoremus @ May 8 2008, 05:21 AM) *
Next Sunday a bunch of young adults in my diocese will make the Consecration at the convent of the Servants of the Lord and the Virgin of Matara (who already got a lot of attention in this thread smile.gif ). I'll be among them.

At the moment I just have a deal with our Mother that if I accidentally happen to do something right for a change, she gets to distribute the rewards as she sees fit (which saves me a lot of bookkeeping: "this was for the most lonely soul in purgatory, this for the second-loneliest...")


How wonderful! It's Pentecost too and, I just realized, the anniversary of my First Holy Communion. I will pray for you! Is there a good thread around here about the Servants? I know very, very little of them but I read that they are working on a project to translate the works of Cornelio Fabro, a recent Thomist scholar, which is the kind of work that sounds fascinating to me. (The other question is, what are they translating them into?)
VeniteAdoremus
There should be a thread smile.gif

And what they're translating him into... who knows? The sisters in our diocese all speak Spanish, Italian, English and Dutch. And one of them also French, I believe. ;D
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