Can I please ask the help of Phatmass members? I am still in the process of updating Holy Vocations Blog and adding new writers. I now want to make one more edit of the list of religious order before I join the seminary. While in the seminary, I can not work on blogs.

Please look at the orders listed in the sidebar under "Vocation Links: Women" and "Vocation Links: Men". If you have any suggestions on other orders to add, please reply below. Thanks

The order I'm joining! Sisters of St. Francis of Perpetual Adoration... www.ssfpa.org
And Carmelites in Terre Haute, IN... www.heartsawake.com

If you look on my blog

thereligious.blogspot.com to the right there are ton of a links of communities and blogs of other religious.

Could you tell me some more about the Sisters of St. Francis of Perpetual Adoration. Do they all wear habits? Any Latin Mass or prayers in Latin?

Also, what is the official name of the Carmelites in Terre Haute. I'll be adding them to the sidebar too!

Hey, St. Benedict, here are some great Discalced Carmelite Nuns communities in the US: http://picasaweb.google.com/ocdnuns (when looking through the pictures, pay attention to little comments on the bottom with more information)

The OCD Carmels in the US that pray the Office in Latin are Valparaiso (Carmelite rite Office), Buffalo, Alexandria & Brooklyn (revised Roman Rite, with Gregorian chant & Traditional hymns) The only Carmel in union with Rome that has the Tridentine Mass is the Carmel of JMJ in Valparaiso, NE. Then several of the other Carmels incorporate Latin in their liturgies. (links and more info in the link above)

Then there are the the Byzantine Discalced Carmelites in PA: http://www.byzantinediscalcedcarmelites.com/

The official name for the Carmel in Terre Haute, IN would be Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Carmel of St. Joseph in Terre Haute, IN. They are all in full habit.

Also, here's a thread on the two different OCD nuns Constitutions, though several of the ones under the newer Constitutions are just as traditional as the older ones. But it may be something you'll want to include in your blog.

Also, in the section above Vocations for Women, you may want to have a link not only to the OCarm Carmelite Order but also the Discalced Carmelite Order - http://www.ocd.pcn.net/index_en.htm

The Order that I am joining is the Salesians of Don Bosco.

http://www.salesianvocation.com/site/index.php?section=1

This is the website for male vocations for the Eastern Province.

I never learned so much about the Discalced Carmelites before. Honestly, I thought there were part of the Carmelite Order. I did some editing of my sidebar. Could you please look over the Carmelite links? I want to make sure I labeled the Discalced ones and the non-discalced ones properly. After some researching, I found out that some of the Carmelites I had listed were actually discalced.

I already had them listed (http://www.salesians.org/). Are they traditional Catholics? I checked your website and I saw none of them wearing cassocks.

They are Roman Catholics, very loyal to the Holy Father. Salesians are all for reverence in the Mass and devotion to Our Lady.

Salesian Sisters of St John Bosco

Yes, they wear habits, and are also faithful to the pope and the Magisterium.

We are so cool, we dont need cassocks. We need the movement so we can play with the children! We like the modern stuff, its what the kids like, and we need to keep up with the times, besides it is no longer a norm in the US to wear cassocks, our constiutions tell us to wear the norm for our region.

Could you please explain what you mean by "We like the modern stuff"? Does that include Extraordinary ministers, Communion in the Hand, lack of Latin, etc? Please explain...

The Carmelites listed from Malaysia are Discalced Carmelites. The Carmel of the Sacred Hearts in Colorado Springs is not in union with the Church. They follow the OCD spirituality but are not officially part of the OCD Order. They follow neither of the approved 1990 or 1991 Constitutions.

You may want to have a whole separate page on each of the orders for listing all the communities (otherwise that list is going to get really long :j )

On the top section you may want to keep all the names the same, as either "Carmelites" - "Discalced Carmelites" or "Carmelite Order" "Discalced Carmelite Order"

I'm glad to share with you this info! Also something I recently learned is the OCarm and OCD Carmelite shields are the same except the OCD shield merges Mount Carmel with the Cross, while the OCarm shield is just Mount Carmel.

Not a problem.

Extraordinary minsters only when absolutely necessary and there are not enough priests and deacons (i.e. at a large youth rally)... communion in the hand is up to the local ordinary and we are obedient to him... do you recall that JPII encouraged the study of Latin in seminaries while at the Salesian University? We tend to listen to what the pope says (I mean, it is part of the Salesian charism...) but that does not mean that we are reverting to the Latin Mass.

It is not a "lack" of Latin for us that is the concern, the proper use of it in our charism of youth ministry

Might i suggest (for Canada dosent have much faithful things that people know about.)
Westminster Abbey/Seminary (Benedictine ) of Christ The King in B.C. Canada. not flaky like many Swiss-American Abbeys..
Very good doctrinally/morally, and sing Latin Gregorian chant, most days,especially solemnities.. but mostly the hymns and antiphon daily...
solid teaching Brothers, farmers,wonderful orthodox Abbot....(for canada that is)
http://www.sck.ca/pages/monks.htm
http://ejvideo-place.blogspot.com/2007/02/...-follow-me.html
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and
Abbey of St. Benoit Du lac ,in Quebec (Solesmes in Canada)
is in English
http://www.st-benoit-du-lac.com/selecteur/chooser.html
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and the conservative Branch of Camaldolese
Holy Family Hermitage, embodiment of the Camaldolese Hermits of Monte Corona in the United States
http://camaldolese.org/

a picture of the prior is halfway down this page
http://clevelandohio.tripod.com/holyfamilyhermitage/

Plus, check here at NLM, he only has Communities ( on sidebar left, halfway dwon)that only use Classic Roman Rite or are Reform of the Reform Oriented.
www.thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot* dot com*

such as
http://www.oratory-toronto.org/

and lest not forget Le Barroux Benedictines Abbey of St Marie Magdalene.(since i ee you have other French Communities)
Le Barroux uses the Full St Pius Vth (pre-1962 Missal usage) Rites and Monastic Office.

http://www.barroux.org/

http://www.photothequegaud.com/index.php?r...%20VIE%20%20MON
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for Ladies!!
and their Sister Nuns..down the road..
http://www.barroux.org/monial/monialpres.html

http://abbaye.nda.internetologis.com/viede...iales.htlm.html

One of my friends entered there about two weeks ago!!!!!

Cool! Sr. Kelly, right? There was a thread on her a couple weeks ago - Kelly Enters Carmel

Fraternites monastiques de Jerusalem - they're French, though, and not in the U.S. There are two autonomous communities of men and women. Their site is here: http://jerusalem.cef.fr/

there english site is here, http://www.sdssm.org/bienvenueEng.html
though they may not be 'Traditiona' , along the lines 'St Benedict' is looking for, his blog.
Pax

are you kidding me? you, dear child, are absolutely ridiculous. get OVER yourself!

I have been to these two monasteries, both of which I would say are traditional:
St. Mary's Monastery, Petersham, MA
Abbey of Christ in the Desert, Abiquiu, NM

That was rude and unnecessary.

I think that you get this kind of reaction because you come off as pushing an agenda against the Novus Ordo and some of the liturgical practices that came out of Vatican II. Not everyone thinks that they are all bad - as you seem to - (although most of us would agree certain acts are not good). I hope that you can come to see that just because something is not "traditionalist" that does not mean it is not as good.

There are many religious orders that are fantastic and that do not have a specific interest in Latin or the Tridentine Mass. If you expand your horizons, St B, you might find that you do not get the abrasive reaction that you seem to spark in others. That does not mean that you have to give up your love for those things - simply respect that other people may not like it and that is OK.

I agree it was very rude... I mean there are better ways to say things... But perhaps you didn't mean it in that context?

I do have to say though: Hurrah for Orthodox! (Though I do like Mass in English... I get lost in Latin sometimes!)

Hey, St. Benedict, I'm coming up with that organized list of Carmels - will post soon :j

In the meantime, The Fathers of Mercy in KY - http://www.fathersofmercy.com/

Thanks I eagerly await the list. Thanks again. It is highly appreciated!

There are orthodox Roman Catholics who attend the Novus Ordo, you know. Non-traditional (or less traditional) is not synonymous with unorthodox.

Yes that is true.

Hey, St. Benedict, looking over your blog again, I think it would be the best to simply write Discalced Carmelite Nuns, and then the place, instead of writing out the whole name, eg Monastery of the Holy Family and St. Therese (Georgetown Carmel)

For instance the Domincan Nuns in Summit you have listed, would then be also Monastery of Our Lady of the Rosary. So here's some great Carmels to list. The ones that don't have a site, I've linked to my google album.

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Ada Parnell, MI

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Alexandria SD

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Brooklyn, NY

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Buffalo, NY

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Denmark, WI

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Flemington, NJ

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Georgetown, CA

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Iron Mountain, MI

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Traverse City, MI

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Valparaiso, NE

EXCELLENT!!! I'll add the list to the blog tomorrow (It's 11 PM almost here). Can you please also create a list of non-discalced carmelites with the ones from Valparaiso, Buffalo, NY, Alexandria, SD & Brooklyn, NY on the list?

How would you label each of these if you follow the same pattern of name, place. Are all of these nuns or are some religious sisters?

Discalced Carmelites of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph in Valparaiso, Nebraska
Discalced Carmelite Sisters of Seremban, Malaysia
Discalced Carmelites of St. Joseph in Terre Haute, IN
Discalced Carmelites of St. Louis
Discalced Carmelites of the Byzantine Catholic Church


I edited some of the Benedictines and Dominicans on the women's religious list. If there are any problems with the naming, please let me know. Thanks again.

Please list the Lockport Dominicans:
Dominican Contemplative Sisters Monastery of the Heart of Jesus

Links to them:
Http://www.xanga.com/ldominican (thier blog with lots of pictures!)

http://www.holysaviorcatholicchurch.org/do...ivesisters_.htm


Thanks

Jessica
http://www.xanga.com/adiscerningsoul

Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Valparaiso, NE
Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Seremban, Malaysia
Discalced Carmelite Nuns, Terre Haute, IN
Discalced Carmelite Nuns, St. Louis, MO
Discalced Carmelites of the Byzantine Catholic Church, Sugarloaf, PA

Also, here the Fathers of Mercy have a list of good communities they know: http://www.fathersofmercy.com/links/vocation_links

Also, the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate

Under the Vocations General Section, I'd definitely put a link to Gemma's sight, which has truly exhaustive lists of most of the contemplative communities in the world - http://cloisters.tripod.com/

particularly here: http://cloisters.tripod.com/id76.html

I'm not sure what you're asking regarding putting them in the same list as these Carmels, but here are 2 OCarm Carmels that look very good and are on the IRL site.

Carmelite Nuns of the Ancient Observance, Coopersburg, PA

Carmelite Nuns of the Ancient Observance, Wahpeton, ND



The Passionist Nuns in St. Louis are also great. I visited them before. The Canons of the New Jerusalem offer the Tridentine Mass for them every Sunday.

Passionist Nuns, St. Louis, MO


Also, there are plenty more great Poor Clare communities you could add. Really, if you list all the great communities for women, that list is going to get l o n g You may want to just keep to a few and then be sure to put Gemma's site there, and also IRL which you have to cover your bases. :j

But here's a few more PCs you might consider adding, and the correct new link to OLAM

PCPAs

Poor Clare Nuns of Perpetual Adoration, Black Canyon City, AZ

Poor Clare Nuns of Perpetual Adoration, Hanceville, AL

Poor Clare Nuns of Perpetual Adoration, Portsmouth, OH


PCCs

Poor Clare Colettines, Belleville, IL

Poor Clare Colettines, Los Altos Hills, CA

Poor Clare Colettines, Minooka, IL

Poor Clare Colettines, Palos Park, IL

Poor Clare Colettines, Rockford, IL



There's plenty of other great ones too .. Again, be sure to have a link to Gemma's site.


Also, I'd definitely add the Norbertine Canonesses, Tehachapi, CA

God bless!

Yes, I completely concur with this statement. Most of these communities here have the Mass of Pope Paul VI, and are very traditional. But being very traditional is not synonymous with orthodoxy/complete loyalty to the Magisterium which is of foremost importance.

What would the new name be for these that are already listed in the sidebar under Carmelites?

Carmelite Monastery of the Sacred Hearts (http://www.sistersofcarmel.org/)
Carmelite Sisters of the Divine Heart of Jesus (http://www.carmelitedcj.org/index.asp)
Carmelite Sisters of the Most Sacred Heart (http://carmelitegeneralate.homestead.com/)

I've added almost all of the suggestions, but I still need to find time to add the Poor Clares to the sidebar. After I finish work on the motu proprio news, I want to add them.

St. Benedict, it might not be a good idea to list the sisters of carmel on your site because of their questionable status.

Thanks for catching that! If someone does find out that they are in Communion with Rome, please leave a note on Holy Vocations or, even better, send me a PM. I'd love to add them to the sidebar, but I want to make sure they are in Communion with the Church first.

Capuchin Sisters of Nazareth

Williamsport, PA

www.capuchinsisters.com

Added.

Thanks

The Sister wear habits. Not all the older sisters wear the same habit, but all wear a modified form of the franciscan habit! Look at the website.
As for Latin Mass, no, we celebrate the Novus Ordo Mass in English. Sometimes we say prayers or sing hymns in Latin, but most of the time it's in English.

Hey, another Benedictine community you can add to your blog - http://www.ihmwestfield.com/ They belong to the Congregation of Solesmes, and chant the office in Latin. I was reading at the IFSB forum about someone who visited them a few years ago. She said they were great!

Excellent!!!

Some more communities for your blog, before you head off ... but I wouldn't worry about adding these right away, if you're really busy preparing to leave soon

http://holyvocations.blogspot.com/

- First - under the womens link, u may also want to put the Community of St. John, as they have 2 branches of sisters too

- The Camaldolese link under mens communities goes to a non-page

instead I'd put

Camaldolese Monks, Holy Family Hermitage, OH - http://camaldolese.org/

Camaldolese Monks, New Camaldoli Hermitage, CA - http://www.contemplation.com/


- Carmelite Hermits, Lake Elmo, MN - http://www.decorcarmeli.com/

- Monastic Family of Bethlehem ( under mens & womens ) - http://www.esicasmo.certosini.info/ESICASM...indexmonaci.htm

- Missionaries of Charity Fathers - http://www.mcpriests.com/

- Dominican Nuns, Bronx, NY - http://www.bronxop.org/Life.html (I'd link first to this page on their site, as the home page for some reason doesn't link back to this section of their site with the great pictures)

- for the Holy Spirit Adoration Sisters, I'd put a couple communities

Holy Spirit Adoration Sisters, Philadelphia, PA - http://www.adorationsisters.org/ (the link u already have there)

Holy Spirit Adoration Sisters, St. Louis, MO - http://www.mountgraceconvent.org/


For the Passionists, I would add these 2 communities -


Passionist Nuns, Whitesville, KY - http://www.passionistnuns.org/

Passionist Nuns, Erlanger, KY - http://religiouslife.com/vocsearch/search....&criteria=d

Then since you have a few communities that are only abroad, and have a particular love for the TLM, you may want to add the Religious Victims of the Sacred Heart, Marseille, France also under womens communities - the link has a few other communities too

Also, I'd put Benedictine Nuns, Le Barroux, France too

God bless!

Actually you may want to put the link to the TLM Communities in the General Vocations Links at the top - http://www.latinmass.org/

Here's one:

The Sisters of the Third Order of St. Francis in East Peoria, Ill.
www.franciscansisterspeoria.org

They are my personal favorite