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Sacred Music Man
Greetings and salutations.

I hope this is the right place to put this thread, but here it is anyways. I was hoping to make this thread for a while: a resource for those going "what sacred music could I get on the internet?" Here are two things so far.

http://romaaeterna.jp/basil/sb089.html
http://www.cpdl.org (basically THE source for sacred music as far as I can see)

I'm planning on doing some scans of the music I have and posting them here too. I guess I'll need a flikr or photobucket account (or whatever one might reccomend). Anywho, that's all I gotta say for now. Feel free to contribute some clickable/downloadable/viewable resrouces. lol_grin.gif

God bless.
Sacred Music Man
By the way, Sacred Music of the East is welcome. I could probably read the eastern notation (depending on how far east it is mellow.gif) cause I know some resources, but western notation would be preferred for the rest of us. This goes for all... text with midi files of the music works well too for those non-music readers. Music is an oral tradition too P.gif
goldenchild17
interesting. pages saved so I can check em out later.
missionseeker
http://bach.music.uwo.ca/CantusManuscripts...rchPageFrameset -- For scholars, I suppose

http://www.musicasacra.com/pdf/plainsong.pdf -- great resource, written by Dom Gajard, Choir Master of Solemes

www.ceciliaschola.org
missionseeker
http://www.musicasacra.com/pdf/secunda.pdf

220 pages of choral bliss. lol_grin.gif
puellapaschalis
QUOTE(missionseeker @ Jun 3 2008, 09:17 AM) *


Ooooooooooooooh! Thank you for this! *runs off to plot the future of the Chaplaincy's choir*
Sacred Music Man
I downloaded that too when MS showed me the site. I should sift through it later.
Sacred Music Man


My Favourite!





This one is quite beautiful too. smile.gif
Noel's angel
Ok, a wee discussion for ye all.

I'm having difficulties restraining some of the choir members when it comes to Marian hymns. Some of them seem to think that it's okay to stick in a Marian hymn as a second Communion hymn, and that during May we needed to have at least one Marian hymn (even if it was a Feast Day). Any way of telling them (convincingly) that that's just not right?
Sacred Music Man
I couldn't say. I'm goona be honest. I'm not 100% sure about what music (written to the sacred texts of the mass, both proper and ordinary) is required, let alone what is suitable for supliments, only because I don't have the resources (like the graduale romanum) right now, plus all the churches in my diocese does it wrong anyways (i'm assuming I'd be overjoyed if there was one gem that regularly practiced what is prescribed? [perscribed?]). Anywho, just say that they need the text for the day. Marian hymn comes second. Also, the mass isn't about entertaining us. It's about worship Jesus. So if the mass has such and such a biblical text for communion, then that must be it for that day.
Alycin
I can't read music. sadder.gif
Sacred Music Man
That's okay. Sacred music is an oral tradition anyways. But if you're intersted, there is stuff out there for your interest:

http://www.musictheory.net

also, check out http://www.cantemusdomino.net/

There is a few blog entries on learning gregorian chant with solfege (do re, me, fa so la ti do).

That's all Chant is. its very much simpler than our modern system with key changes and the like.
Noel's angel
Eugh, we do this skanky hymn with about 43 key changes...irk. (Okay, that's an exaggeration, but I'm sure you get what I mean).
Sacred Music Man
Hmm... try to revert to plainsong... fixes those key changes. Though, I'm sure the person who dominates the choir wouldn't like that. lawl.
Noel's angel
Can't see it happening. The worst thing is that the hymns that the Diocese out on the missalette are often horrid. The only reason we're even playing that hymn I mentioned is because it's on the missalette.
Ziggamafu
Can you tell me what classical composers were practicing Catholics and what works of theirs were specifically about the faith?

In fact, could you give me your top ten or twenty pieces of sacred music?
Sacred Music Man
sweat.gif

I'm no expert on this stuff... yet. Do you mean the classical era? or the broad term of classical music? I feel that my "top 10" lie within the renaissance, that is the works of Palestrina, a little later, William Byrd... so... I'll get back to you on the list. smile.gif

Are you looking in to this music? Why do you ask if they were practising Catholics?
Sacred Music Man
More links...

Salve Regina (looks like it says Mode 1?) -- chant and audio recording available.

CPDL: Profile on William Byrd -- with music!

St. Cecilia Schola -- sacred music resources


A site I haven't completely looked through yet -- has some masses and hymns...
Sacred Music Man
Salve Regina -- Tonus Simplex, Mode V. Gregorian notation available.
Sacred Music Man
http://www.musicasacra.com/pdf/graduale1961.pdf

This is the link to the Graduale Romanum found on St Cecilia Schola's website. it's 61.4mb. Those interested who have the time to download that, get on it! It's an invaluable resource: it is THE resource for the propers of the mass throughout the liturgical year.
missionseeker
Noel's Angel- http://www.canticanova.com/articles/feedback/arte31.htm
Noel's angel
Thanks!!!

I had an idea of what I wanted to say to them, but this helps a lot!
Sacred Music Man
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Adding more stuff soon.
doe-jo
Does anyone have a music sheet for Ave Verum by Mozart?
Thanks
Noel's angel
http://www.cipoo.net/music_mz.html
Noel's angel
http://www.youtube.com/user/PlaceForMusic

So proud of my wee priests!
Sacred Music Man
QUOTE(doe-jo @ Jul 2 2008, 08:28 PM) *
Does anyone have a music sheet for Ave Verum by Mozart?
Thanks


http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Ave_ver...adeus_Mozart%29

Check this out too. Just search Ave Verum on the side and you'll get the text and translations as well as the other composers who wrote settings to this piece.
Sacred Music Man
Pange Lingua

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcoNeAzDtk0

On CPDL

http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Pange_lingua

(click Under Buckler "in D major (1st Stanza" to get the sheet music for the Youtube)
Sacred Music Man
QUOTE(Noel's angel @ Jul 4 2008, 07:34 PM) *

Sweet! Saving bookmark! woot.gif
Noel's angel
They're amazing live. They sang at my friend's funeral, and also at the ordination of our new bishop. So good. I wish my friend was still alive (he was a priest too). He had the best voice I have ever heard.
MissyP89
Jeff,

Audacity is giving me grief. HELP!!!! sadder.gif It's definitely not me. I record, and I'm in sync with the other tracks perfectly. But when I play it back, I am a good second behind the other tracks!

What did I DO?
Sacred Music Man
Uhh... clip off a second from the beginning?

okay...

Ave Maria: Gregorian chant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv0n5zTwH5M&NR=1

Ave Maria, Polyphony by Victoria (inspired by the above) http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer..._type=&aq=f

Look it up on CPDL.org for the score happy.gif
Sacred Music Man
Another post... some examples of Organum:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmUWbLNrlrY&NR=1 (this one advertises a CD at the end)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbITZgBZzs
Sacred Music Man
Shamelessly showing off my Lively room...

http://www.lively.com/dr?rid=4963555740345624864
MissyP89
Sitting in front of the tabernacle. smile.gif
KevinSymonds
QUOTE(Noel's angel @ Jun 9 2008, 03:16 PM) *
Ok, a wee discussion for ye all.

I'm having difficulties restraining some of the choir members when it comes to Marian hymns. Some of them seem to think that it's okay to stick in a Marian hymn as a second Communion hymn, and that during May we needed to have at least one Marian hymn (even if it was a Feast Day). Any way of telling them (convincingly) that that's just not right?


Please, for the love, heed my advice. This is general advice (can be applied to other situations) learned after many hard-earned experiences.

-Never, ever correct anyone if you do not have the documentation from Church authority to back yourself up.

-If you have the documentation, make sure you understand it...thoroughly...before correcting anyone.

-Provide the documentation to your audience (see points 1 & 2).

-After the audience reads the documentation, you may have to field questions (see point 2).

-Finally, you may have a less-than-willing audience but if they've seen the documentation from authority and have had it explained to them, they will be hard-pressed to argue with you and may cede the point. Grudgingly, perhaps, but you can then proceed--in your case--with bringing liturgically correct music to your parish.

Remember also, charity above all else and that it IS charitable to correct people...it is a spiritual work of mercy to do so.

Hope that helps.
-KJS
Noel's angel
Another video from The Priests:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x2YvQ_usj0
Selah
Here's my favorite chant:

Dies Irae

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0
Sacred Music Man
That's a sweet chant.
Sacred Music Man
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MandyKhatoon
I've been looking for the sheet music for Adoremus in Aeternum by C. Rossini. Does anyone know where I can find it by chance? huh.gif
Thank you!
Sacred Music Man
I did a quick search through a couple links... no luck... google search? if not, someone will have to scan it and cough it up on here lol_grin.gif
kafka
Jeff et al, I thought you might find this interesting. It was posted by my friend a long time ago at the other forum.

According to her theory the cantillation marks written above and below words in the psalms and other musical texts in the tanakh bible (jewish bible) represented some kind of musical notes. After extensive research she finally discovered the meaning of the signs and after years of trial translated those signs in modern musical notes.

A woman Suzanne Haik-Vantoura published her research in a book called "Music of the Bible revealed".

I am trying to find some examples since the links expired.
kafka
QUOTE (kafka @ Oct 24 2008, 04:45 PM) *
Jeff et al, I thought you might find this interesting. It was posted by my friend a long time ago at the other forum.

According to her theory the cantillation marks written above and below words in the psalms and other musical texts in the tanakh bible (jewish bible) represented some kind of musical notes. After extensive research she finally discovered the meaning of the signs and after years of trial translated those signs in modern musical notes.

A woman Suzanne Haik-Vantoura published her research in a book called "Music of the Bible revealed".

I am trying to find some examples since the links expired.

Wow just wow here is a link of Psalm 19 and according to this musicologist's research; this is how the Psalms may have sounded when they were sung in the Temple during David's time!!! It reminds me of Chant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwW3r7xLJWI

What I also want research if Sacred Scripture has any laws prescribing which instruments were used in worship, since that might lend insight into what should be used in our Mass since Scripture is for all times.
kafka
QUOTE (kafka @ Oct 24 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Wow just wow here is a link of Psalm 19 and according to this musicologist's research; this is how the Psalms may have sounded when they were sung in the Temple during David's time!!! It reminds me of Chant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwW3r7xLJWI

What I also want research if Sacred Scripture has any laws prescribing which instruments were used in worship, since that might lend insight into what should be used in our Mass since Scripture is for all times.

here is an interview with the musicologist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKjForhzzpU




Sacred Music Man
QUOTE (kafka @ Oct 24 2008, 04:45 PM) *
Jeff et al, I thought you might find this interesting. It was posted by my friend a long time ago at the other forum.

According to her theory the cantillation marks written above and below words in the psalms and other musical texts in the tanakh bible (jewish bible) represented some kind of musical notes. After extensive research she finally discovered the meaning of the signs and after years of trial translated those signs in modern musical notes.

A woman Suzanne Haik-Vantoura published her research in a book called "Music of the Bible revealed".

I am trying to find some examples since the links expired.



QUOTE (kafka @ Oct 24 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Wow just wow here is a link of Psalm 19 and according to this musicologist's research; this is how the Psalms may have sounded when they were sung in the Temple during David's time!!! It reminds me of Chant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwW3r7xLJWI

What I also want research if Sacred Scripture has any laws prescribing which instruments were used in worship, since that might lend insight into what should be used in our Mass since Scripture is for all times.



QUOTE (kafka @ Oct 24 2008, 06:00 PM) *
here is an interview with the musicologist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKjForhzzpU

Cool stuff. I wouldn't doubt that there are some sort of graphic notations used to aid in chanting the scriptures. I suppose a lot of work went into the research, but remember it's all still speculation... especially when it comes to pitch. Not that there was a fixed pitch, but the spaces between tones are the main concern.
kafka
QUOTE (Sacred Music Man @ Oct 25 2008, 10:53 PM) *
Cool stuff. I wouldn't doubt that there are some sort of graphic notations used to aid in chanting the scriptures. I suppose a lot of work went into the research, but remember it's all still speculation... especially when it comes to pitch. Not that there was a fixed pitch, but the spaces between tones are the main concern.

well if you know me, I love speculation. Her attempt at something original and groundbreaking is admirable to me. I doubt her research could ever be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, since the gap in time, is simply to much to overcome.

missionseeker
I don't know that it's ground breaking and original... I mean... evidencewise, cuz monks either started that, or kept that going..

the ealry chant manuscripts are far from notation. they are just little squiggley lines here and there.
kafka
QUOTE (missionseeker @ Oct 25 2008, 11:31 PM) *
I don't know that it's ground breaking and original... I mean... evidencewise, cuz monks either started that, or kept that going..

the ealry chant manuscripts are far from notation. they are just little squiggley lines here and there.

Monks?

This is about Hebrew music from the Old Testament based on symbols marked about the lines of some old manuscripts of the Bible.
Saint Therese
Music is nice.
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