Thomist-in-Training
Jun 3 2008, 09:29 PM
I asked someone this question by PM but just in case, I thought someone "milling around" might know as well. If you make a week's retreat at a convent, and they say you don't need to pay anything, it is still customary to make a donation, yes? If so, about how much?
Thanks all!
fides quarens intellectum
Jun 3 2008, 09:31 PM
i'd say go with what the Holy SPirit is prompting you to do.
Saint Therese
Jun 3 2008, 10:38 PM
I was just wondering this myself today. It would seem appropriate to offer a donation especially when meals etc are provided.
FSM Sister
Jun 3 2008, 11:25 PM
QUOTE(Thomist-in-Training @ Jun 3 2008, 10:29 PM)

I asked someone this question by PM but just in case, I thought someone "milling around" might know as well. If you make a week's retreat at a convent, and they say you don't need to pay anything, it is still customary to make a donation, yes? If so, about how much?
Thanks all!
I always make a donation, and it is almost always accepted. I'd say it would probably depend on your financial circumstances. If you are a poor high school kid, $10 per day. Average working class, $25 per day, and upper middle class $40 per day. A weekend is worth $100.
Just a thought.
nunsense
Jun 4 2008, 12:15 AM
The Trappist monks in California suggest $40 per day if the person can afford it, but they don't ask for it - they just leave it up to the individual to make a donation as they can afford.
Thomist-in-Training
Jun 4 2008, 07:44 AM
QUOTE(FSM Sister @ Jun 4 2008, 12:25 AM)

I always make a donation, and it is almost always accepted. I'd say it would probably depend on your financial circumstances. If you are a poor high school kid, $10 per day. Average working class, $25 per day, and upper middle class $40 per day. A weekend is worth $100.
Just a thought.
I fall under "poor college kid" so maybe $100, which is what I was thinking.
DiscerningSoul
Jun 4 2008, 09:04 AM
Usally I would leave some money whatever I had in my pockets. Sometimes I can make bigger donations later if I save.
Caramelonion
Jun 4 2008, 10:06 AM
I am so glad that someone brought this up. I am planning to visit a community in the near future and didn't know how to proceed. I have visited one other community about six years ago and was advised to bring them a small gift and then send flowers for their altar as a thank you when I returned home.
praying4carmel
Jun 4 2008, 10:10 AM
I have always brought a gift for the sisters, and written thank you notes. This weekend I am sending them, the Cleveland Carmelites, C H e e s e monthly for the next 6 months from a Creamery in Wisconsin. My Spiritual Director who is a Dominican sister has never told me to make a monetary donation. I asked about this and she said No. HUH?! I asked Sr. Bobbi @ Rock Island and she Said NO too, I can give my gift as being a lector during my time there, or doing things around the house etc. I still brought them fresh Gourmet Popcorn in a china bowl, and a Begonia for the statue of Mary when I went previously.
I guess that each place would have it's own idea of what is expected. Praying and seeing what the spirit wants is what's necessary.
Note: C h e e s e comes up as "coagulated milk"..thanks Mr. D.
alicemary
Jun 4 2008, 05:30 PM
Money is not always the way to go, and most convents will not want that. If you are going on retreat that is a little different. Most times you do help out when you go to the convent, always seems that sisters are always pitching in for some task and you help too. If this is a vocation thing, then generally, no they do not expect to be paid, unless they tell you up front. I think one hundred dollars is far too much. They understand most young people have no ready money.
Most would be happy if you came armed with a big box of chocolates or stopped at the bakery on the way over and bought a couple dozen baked goods.
If in doubt, you should just speak with the vocation director. They are used to questions and will put your mind at ease.
When I visit my Dominican nuns I come armed with fresh goodies from the bakery, about 2 pounds of different coffee's or teas and a couple whitman samplers. They love it.
If you know the order is as poor as you are, then you might ask about a money donation, but do not feel obligated to give alot. They are very understanding of your predictament.
nunsense
Jun 4 2008, 05:40 PM
Alicemary is right about the money thing. When I was going to visit the Hermits of Bethlehem they told me the rate for retreats but then said that this doesn't apply to those who are visiting for discernment.
Thomist-in-Training
Jun 4 2008, 08:23 PM
OK thanks so much everyone... although I'm more confused now
But Nunsense's comment sounds a little like what I was thinking. My mom is just trying to make sure I do the polite thing but she knows even less about this than I do. But before this all I had to go on was one friend who stayed w/monks in Norcia for about a month and gave them several hundred euro. But Caramelonion's comment sounds really good. I love flowers in the church.
I won't be helping out around the convent exactly since it's cloistered & I'll be in guest quarters

So, maybe buying a few books is enough, and then sending flowers??? (It's hard for me to bring a food gift or anything like that with me since we are driving cross country.)
I will "look around" and see if it seems they really could use a donation for something, like Alicemary said. Thanks a lot! More suggestions are welcome.
Caramelonion, welcome to the forum! I love your name!
salterrae
Jun 4 2008, 08:51 PM
JM + JT
When my family and I (total of 6) visited the Carmelite Sisters of the Most Sacred Heart of Los Angeles, they told us that we didn't have to pay, but we wanted to leave a donation.
We had used three rooms and ate breakfast both days.
We asked how much our stay would've cost: $600
I think we gave something like $400.
But it was definitely a much better experience than staying at a boring ol' hotel.
I'd love to visit again.
Caramelonion
Jun 5 2008, 09:41 AM
QUOTE(Thomist-in-Training @ Jun 4 2008, 09:23 PM)

OK thanks so much everyone... although I'm more confused now
But Nunsense's comment sounds a little like what I was thinking. My mom is just trying to make sure I do the polite thing but she knows even less about this than I do. But before this all I had to go on was one friend who stayed w/monks in Norcia for about a month and gave them several hundred euro. But Caramelonion's comment sounds really good. I love flowers in the church.
I won't be helping out around the convent exactly since it's cloistered & I'll be in guest quarters

So, maybe buying a few books is enough, and then sending flowers??? (It's hard for me to bring a food gift or anything like that with me since we are driving cross country.)
I will "look around" and see if it seems they really could use a donation for something, like Alicemary said. Thanks a lot! More suggestions are welcome.
Caramelonion, welcome to the forum! I love your name!

Thanks!
I live in Texas and when I visited the monastery, I took several jars of jam made in Texas and I wrapped it all up in bandanas and twine. I figured that was something they could use...If there was something from where you life like the jam that can travel in the car, that may be something kind of personal that they would love. That's just a thought!
Thomist-in-Training
Jun 5 2008, 10:55 AM
QUOTE(Caramelonion @ Jun 5 2008, 10:41 AM)

I live in Texas and when I visited the monastery, I took several jars of jam made in Texas and I wrapped it all up in bandanas and twine. I figured that was something they could use...If there was something from where you life like the jam that can travel in the car, that may be something kind of personal that they would love. That's just a thought!
Cute! I wish I'd thought of something like that earlier, but we're leaving in a few hours. Maybe I'll find something nice this weekend, though--we're visiting my brother first. We'll see, I guess.
Margaret Clare
Jun 5 2008, 11:34 AM
Wow, those are all great ideas! I usually give around $25 each night, and leave it there in the guesthouse with a note, or give it to one of the externs, and then I may send a card later in the mail with a Mass offered for their community, if I remember. That reminds me, I need to request a few.
Thomist-in-Training
Jun 5 2008, 01:02 PM
Oh man, I was looking around my room to see if I had anything gift-appropriate and my eye fell on my book with reproductions and notes of Fra Angelico's frescoes at San Marco... it's a great book, I bet they would like that if they don't already have the same sort of thing (along with something else like what you guys suggested). Hmmmmm. I love it though. I'll talk with myself about this for the next few hours...
Thomist-in-Training
Jun 5 2008, 01:08 PM
Maybe jam (sort of thing) is a better idea because I would know for sure they didn't already have it... if I knew they wouldn't have anything like this it would make more sense.
Caramelonion
Jun 5 2008, 02:46 PM
QUOTE(Thomist-in-Training @ Jun 5 2008, 02:08 PM)

Maybe jam (sort of thing) is a better idea because I would know for sure they didn't already have it... if I knew they wouldn't have anything like this it would make more sense.

When I was going...I was trying to think of something personal. I considered taking them a book on Texas...and then thought...what are they going to do with a book on Texas?

I must say that your book idea is much better mine!
fides quarens intellectum
Jun 5 2008, 07:18 PM
QUOTE(alicemary @ Jun 4 2008, 05:30 PM)

Money is not always the way to go, and most convents will not want that. If you are going on retreat that is a little different. Most times you do help out when you go to the convent, always seems that sisters are always pitching in for some task and you help too. If this is a vocation thing, then generally, no they do not expect to be paid, unless they tell you up front. I think one hundred dollars is far too much. They understand most young people have no ready money.
Most would be happy if you came armed with a big box of chocolates or stopped at the bakery on the way over and bought a couple dozen baked goods.
If in doubt, you should just speak with the vocation director. They are used to questions and will put your mind at ease.
When I visit my Dominican nuns I come armed with fresh goodies from the bakery, about 2 pounds of different coffee's or teas and a couple whitman samplers. They love it.
If you know the order is as poor as you are, then you might ask about a money donation, but do not feel obligated to give alot. They are very understanding of your predictament.
iawtp
Guadalupe23
Jun 5 2008, 08:06 PM
QUOTE(Caramelonion @ Jun 5 2008, 11:41 AM)

Thanks!
I live in Texas and when I visited the monastery, I took several jars of jam made in Texas and I wrapped it all up in bandanas and twine. I figured that was something they could use...If there was something from where you life like the jam that can travel in the car, that may be something kind of personal that they would love. That's just a thought!
That's a great idea! I'm visiting the Carmelite Sisters of the Sacred Heart on June 20th (totally excited!) They are in California. I'm from Philly so I might bring them a bunch of PHilly pretzels. Sweet idea! Thanks!
alicemary
Jun 5 2008, 08:13 PM
too bad you cant bring a hoagie or two!!! Or possibly a coagulated milk steak from Pat's Steaks in South Philly. How about some tastycakes....cant get them in all parts of the country. When I came back to Philly in May, I couldnt wait to get my first pretzel. Its strange when you leave the area what you get craving!!!!
Autumn Dusk
Jun 5 2008, 08:25 PM
I totally agree with the spending money on treats. The sisters would give the money to missions (many do) but if you bring edible treats they are more likely get to enjoy them themselves. The CFR's joke that a condition for being accepted as a brother is to have a connection to someone who will donate good food on occasion. They're hooked up with bakers and gardeners and even a butcher...so they all get a good steak every now and then!
LilyofSaintMaria
Jun 6 2008, 08:27 AM
It is usually customary to offer a donation, but I think it would be good of you to send it through the mail after you have left to those who aren't expecting any money. The Sisters in Ann Arbor require 25 dollars from you, but the Carmelites in Ada didn't say a word. We payed the Ann Arbor sisters their $25 and then sent the Carmelites $30 through the mail. I also payed close attention to the Ada sisters and found that they love old prayer cards and are reprinting them off their computer. So I sent them a whole CD full of religious pictures. Doing a thoughtful gift like that I think is a good idea.
Bernadette
EWIE
Jun 6 2008, 10:44 AM
[quote name='LilyofSaintMaria' date='Jun 6 2008, 08:27 AM' post='1560873']
It is usually customary to offer a donation, but I think it would be good of you to send it through the mail after you have left to those who aren't expecting any money.
Good idea, to leave it afterwards. Spares an awkard moment.
Gifts are delightful as an extra, though to be honest, most gifts are recycled. Money on the other hand pays your own expenses while at the convent. You know, even at home it costs money to host a guest. There is electricity, laundry, soap, wear and tear on sheets, towels etc., food, and yes even toilet paper.
NazFarmer
Jun 8 2008, 11:42 PM
I had actually never thought of this. I'd like to visit a monastery I visited over Easter again at the end of summer (before I ship out for college), and this monastery runs the high-school I went to (seriously concidering joining those Benedictine men). I'll have to think about this some, but I have to e-mail the Abbot yet, lol! Okay, just musing now.
May God bless and protect you always in all of your endeavors, especially your discernment!
Your Brother in Christ,
Joe
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.