Full Version: Wearing Veils
I have a question. I am 14. Am I too young to wear a veil to Mass or Adoration?
QUOTE(Laudem Gloriae @ Jun 8 2008, 07:03 PM) 
Go for it jmj! Like I wrote in my post, I am one of about 3 in the mass I attend and there may be a few others at the other masses I'm not sure. But do it for the love of God as a love sacrifice and it will be easier. I too was very unsure and scared at first but then after what I read about the why of the veil and the misunderstanding of people who think it's "old hat" or out of mode or worse "not allowed" or against church policy changed my mind. If I can find that article by Fr. Robert J. Fox who wrote a little booklet on the wearing of the Veil you too would jump right in and not be afraid.
My church is the biggest in my city so it is used a lot for the diocese celebrations and ordinations, etc. so needless to say there are hundreds of people it seems and wearing it doesn't bother me a bit now! I have always been to just blend in, not call attention to myself but in certain things like this and being a witness for God, you have to be out there!
Wearing the veil at mass or adoration doesn't have the connotations that the feminists or modern types want to place on it. Be like Mother Angelica! She used to say she liked to make people uncomfortable or prick their conscience for good things regarding God and things like this! She was delighted that the feminists and modern people were outraged that she had the nerve or audacity to switch back to the "old, archaic, out of mode" full traditional habit.
Just wear you're "pre-bridal veil" (if you are planning to be a Bride of Christ!) for your Beloved, Jesus, and let the others and their ill-informed opinions just hang! Jesus is the only one that matters. You should only worry about what GOD thinks about you, be concerned with HIS opinion only! Not mankind's. Our Blessed Virgin will be happy your are adorning yourself in this beautiful way for Her beloved, adorable Son too!
My church is the biggest in my city so it is used a lot for the diocese celebrations and ordinations, etc. so needless to say there are hundreds of people it seems and wearing it doesn't bother me a bit now! I have always been to just blend in, not call attention to myself but in certain things like this and being a witness for God, you have to be out there!
Wearing the veil at mass or adoration doesn't have the connotations that the feminists or modern types want to place on it. Be like Mother Angelica! She used to say she liked to make people uncomfortable or prick their conscience for good things regarding God and things like this! She was delighted that the feminists and modern people were outraged that she had the nerve or audacity to switch back to the "old, archaic, out of mode" full traditional habit.
Just wear you're "pre-bridal veil" (if you are planning to be a Bride of Christ!) for your Beloved, Jesus, and let the others and their ill-informed opinions just hang! Jesus is the only one that matters. You should only worry about what GOD thinks about you, be concerned with HIS opinion only! Not mankind's. Our Blessed Virgin will be happy your are adorning yourself in this beautiful way for Her beloved, adorable Son too!
Aww, thank you LG!
My parish is the Diocese's Cathedral, and every now and then I see someone veiled. I think if I could just get up to go to the early Sunday Mass, I wouldn't feel so out of place as opposed to the Saturday Vigil or the later Sunday Masses. Ideally I'd like to wear a veil or some form of a headcovering all the time. I did cover full time last summer for a while, but I ended up giving it up. I'm not sure if that's where Christ is calling me.I may have to Google for the article you mentioned. I have seen resources about why to cover online, but some of them fall into the extremist position regarding modesty or are not Catholic. I would like some good Catholic resources at the moment (time to check out the other links in the thread).
A couple of questions, if I may.
I did wear my mantilla for Easter Sunday, but I tied the ends of mine under my hair just to feel less awkward (I hope that's clear, I can provide a picture if needed). I assume as long as it's on your head, it's okay? I have a scarf that I can tie in the same fashion, I think I bought it from a Jewish website.
Second, what do you mean by "Wearing the veil at mass or adoration doesn't have the connotations that the feminists or modern types want to place on it." from your post?
Thank you again!
QUOTE(Maria Faustina @ Jun 8 2008, 10:07 PM)
I have a question. I am 14. Am I too young to wear a veil to Mass or Adoration?
Your never too young.
QUOTE(DiscerningSoul @ Jun 6 2008, 11:31 PM)
http://www.catholicplanet.com/veil/index.htm
http://adorotedevote.blogspot.com/2006/05/...to-veil_24.html
http://web2.airmail.net/carlsch/MaterDei/H...omily040523.htm
http://www.fisheaters.com/theveil.html
** http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2007/12...l-campaign.html **
http://catholicrestorationists.wordpress.c...he-chapel-veil/
http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2007/04/v...-in-church.html
http://www.canonlaw.info/2006/09/vatican-i...apel-veils.html
Funny but look at #1 Yes! http://aestasultima.blogspot.com/2007/06/o...ghter-note.html
http://www.latin-mass-society.org/wearmantilla.htm
http://culbreath.wordpress.com/2007/10/13/latin-mass-faq/
http://www.catholicplanet.com/women/headcovering.htm
http://adorotedevote.blogspot.com/2006/05/...to-veil_24.html
http://web2.airmail.net/carlsch/MaterDei/H...omily040523.htm
http://www.fisheaters.com/theveil.html
** http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2007/12...l-campaign.html **
http://catholicrestorationists.wordpress.c...he-chapel-veil/
http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2007/04/v...-in-church.html
http://www.canonlaw.info/2006/09/vatican-i...apel-veils.html
Funny but look at #1 Yes! http://aestasultima.blogspot.com/2007/06/o...ghter-note.html
http://www.latin-mass-society.org/wearmantilla.htm
http://culbreath.wordpress.com/2007/10/13/latin-mass-faq/
http://www.catholicplanet.com/women/headcovering.htm
I meant by feminists or modern types by what some people have said to me and others who wear the veil that it's not done anymore, it's old fashioned, it went out of style years ago, it's against church law (huh?), get with the times - it's 2008 (no kidding!), it's a sign of women's slavery (what???!!!!), it's the way the male run church controls women (WHAT!!!???) and equally idiotic, stupid and low IQ type things.
So maybe there's only these weirdos in my area! But if you hear some of this, don't even begin to listen to them!
So maybe there's only these weirdos in my area! But if you hear some of this, don't even begin to listen to them!
Yup, people are weird.
Puella Paschalis and I attended a Novus Ordo mass last Saturday. It was the start-off of a meeting day for a Dutch group promoting Latin liturgy (this mass, also, was in Latin, except for the readings and homily). I think we were the two youngest females around, and I might have been the youngest all-over. We both wore our white mantillas (PPs mantilla is AWESOME where mine is only rather cool, I'm afraid), and afterwards at least two women came up to ask PP where they could get a veil, a priest said we looked "rather pretty" (which is much coming from a Dutchman
) and an elderly gentleman remarked that it warmed his heart to see young people observing the older customs. No negative remarks were heard whatsoever.
I think we might call it a success all around.
Puella Paschalis and I attended a Novus Ordo mass last Saturday. It was the start-off of a meeting day for a Dutch group promoting Latin liturgy (this mass, also, was in Latin, except for the readings and homily). I think we were the two youngest females around, and I might have been the youngest all-over. We both wore our white mantillas (PPs mantilla is AWESOME where mine is only rather cool, I'm afraid), and afterwards at least two women came up to ask PP where they could get a veil, a priest said we looked "rather pretty" (which is much coming from a Dutchman
) and an elderly gentleman remarked that it warmed his heart to see young people observing the older customs. No negative remarks were heard whatsoever. I think we might call it a success all around.
just went to a talk at a Theology of the Body group. i think from it we could say that a feminist is the result of an imbalance of femininity. we've lost the sense of what true masculinity and femininity is, and the result are women who, from the lack of proper masculine men around, want to take up the masculine traits that weren't naturally intended for them. this is taken to such an extreme that they become negatives - overly aggressive, butch, twisted, and well, other disorders of sexuality.
likewise, men take on traits from the lack of proper femininity around them, to an extreme and negative level - overly sensitive, overly feminine, fairy-like, or the polar opposite. motherless, fatherless, moral-less, sexual confusion, rainbow stickers, oh-my!
hence, "we don't want to wear veils because it makes us look feminine!" uh, you are woman, you are feminine. be proud of it!
sorry for the political detour, it helped me to organize what i've learned.
likewise, men take on traits from the lack of proper femininity around them, to an extreme and negative level - overly sensitive, overly feminine, fairy-like, or the polar opposite. motherless, fatherless, moral-less, sexual confusion, rainbow stickers, oh-my!
hence, "we don't want to wear veils because it makes us look feminine!" uh, you are woman, you are feminine. be proud of it!
sorry for the political detour, it helped me to organize what i've learned.
I guess I should have added that I got more positive remarks than negative or ridiculous ones and just some looks of interest. But I wanted that poster to know who was a bit shy that if she encountered stupid remarks like I've heard, not to be hurt or intimidated by them or to think she is the only one who has but to just ignore them and know Jesus, Mary and all of Heaven are smiling on her!
QUOTE(johnnydigit @ Jun 9 2008, 10:49 AM)
the result are women who, from the lack of proper masculine men around, want to take up the masculine traits that weren't naturally intended for them. this is taken to such an extreme that they become negatives - overly aggressive, butch, twisted, and well, other disorders of sexuality.
men take on traits from the lack of proper femininity around them, to an extreme and negative level - overly sensitive, overly feminine, fairy-like, or the polar opposite. motherless, fatherless, moral-less, sexual confusion, rainbow stickers, oh-my!
men take on traits from the lack of proper femininity around them, to an extreme and negative level - overly sensitive, overly feminine, fairy-like, or the polar opposite. motherless, fatherless, moral-less, sexual confusion, rainbow stickers, oh-my!
I wish to register STRONG OBJECTIONS to the inuendos implied with the use of the phrases,
butch, twisted, other disorder of sexuality, fairy-like, rainbow stickers etc. etc.
Unless the writer of the message has the education to warrant the authority to post his opinion as fact, then it should be noted that this is in fact only his OPINION. And even if he has such authority, it is not loving to use such derogatory adjectives regarding our brothers and sisters, nor is this, in my understanding, the appropriate place to be voicing such predjudice.
QUOTE(VeniteAdoremus @ Jun 9 2008, 05:59 PM)
Yup, people are weird.
Puella Paschalis and I attended a Novus Ordo mass last Saturday. It was the start-off of a meeting day for a Dutch group promoting Latin liturgy (this mass, also, was in Latin, except for the readings and homily). I think we were the two youngest females around, and I might have been the youngest all-over. We both wore our white mantillas (PPs mantilla is AWESOME where mine is only rather cool, I'm afraid), and afterwards at least two women came up to ask PP where they could get a veil, a priest said we looked "rather pretty" (which is much coming from a Dutchman ) and an elderly gentleman remarked that it warmed his heart to see young people observing the older customs. No negative remarks were heard whatsoever.
I think we might call it a success all around.
Puella Paschalis and I attended a Novus Ordo mass last Saturday. It was the start-off of a meeting day for a Dutch group promoting Latin liturgy (this mass, also, was in Latin, except for the readings and homily). I think we were the two youngest females around, and I might have been the youngest all-over. We both wore our white mantillas (PPs mantilla is AWESOME where mine is only rather cool, I'm afraid), and afterwards at least two women came up to ask PP where they could get a veil, a priest said we looked "rather pretty" (which is much coming from a Dutchman
) and an elderly gentleman remarked that it warmed his heart to see young people observing the older customs. No negative remarks were heard whatsoever. I think we might call it a success all around.
God rules
(off-topic: Ingrid is younger than you, I think)
There's a lady in my parish who always has a veil on in church - solid black material which she has over her head, pins at the back of her neck and then again under her chin. She's also the loveliest, gentlest and most charming lady around. In a culture where hardly any woman wears skirts and almost all (and I firmly include myself here) have a tendency to be rather...er...unnecessarily bolshy, she's a real counter-example.
I keep my mantilla (which I pronounce with two English l's, or two Dutch l's, depending on which language I'm talking in that part of the sentence) on with two hairpins. Doesn't stop VA in her seemingly continual mission to yank it off my head as soon as I step out of church though...
Generally I wear the mantilla only on Big Party Type Days. Otherwise I wear a headscarf - over my head and tied behind my neck. Sometimes with clips or pins at the front to keep it in place. I'd love to wear my mantilla all the time but this is the Netherlands and we're on a slightly different game plan
Maybe by the time they get around to burying me they can actually bury me with my mantilla on, and the ladies will all have their mantillas on too. But I think at that point I'll have other things to worry about.
QUOTE(EWIE @ Jun 9 2008, 09:40 PM)
I wish to register STRONG OBJECTIONS to the inuendos implied with the use of the phrases,
butch, twisted, other disorder of sexuality, fairy-like, rainbow stickers etc. etc.
Unless the writer of the message has the education to warrant the authority to post his opinion as fact, then it should be noted that this is in fact only his OPINION. And even if he has such authority, it is not loving to use such derogatory adjectives regarding our brothers and sisters, nor is this, in my understanding, the appropriate place to be voicing such predjudice.
butch, twisted, other disorder of sexuality, fairy-like, rainbow stickers etc. etc.
Unless the writer of the message has the education to warrant the authority to post his opinion as fact, then it should be noted that this is in fact only his OPINION. And even if he has such authority, it is not loving to use such derogatory adjectives regarding our brothers and sisters, nor is this, in my understanding, the appropriate place to be voicing such predjudice.
I am in agreement with EWIE. While in some ways I have similarly observed/experienced many of these tendencies, I firmly believe that we have to show some mercy to those who really struggle with these things. For many women (not all) they do not know what it means to be feminine, to accept their sexuality as it is and accept themselves as they are. Rather, they've bought the poison that's broadcast all over the media: to be feminine is to be weak, unless of course by feminine you mean scantily clad, and then to be promiscuous and flaunt your sexuality is the fullest extent of sexuality. (I can't speak as easily to the experience of men, because, well, I'm not one...)
But the way to reach out to those who are struggling with actualizing their sexuality to its fullest extent (both male and female), is not to throw around condemnatory words, but to 1. live as an example and 2. gently challenge them to live differently, view themselves differently, view the world differently. It's all wrapped up together. A woman who can find no self-worth in herself will seek it through the affirmations of others/the culture; this is equally true for a man. The manifestations are different, but the sickness is the same.
I am very saddened to see something as beautiful as the John Paul the Great's message in Theology of the Body, Mulieris Dignitatem, and other works be twisted into condemnatory and biting words against those who he was reaching out to.
In Jesus and Mary,
Lauren
On another note, I am utterly fascinated with this topic. It's frankly never even crossed my mind to wear a veil to Mass/Adoration. I've never known anyone to do it but postulants in religious orders....
Does anyone know of any good documents/references that I can read that especially talk about the theology behind the veil?
Thanks,
Lauren
Does anyone know of any good documents/references that I can read that especially talk about the theology behind the veil?
Thanks,
Lauren
QUOTE(the lords sheep @ Jun 10 2008, 08:44 AM)
On another note, I am utterly fascinated with this topic. It's frankly never even crossed my mind to wear a veil to Mass/Adoration. I've never known anyone to do it but postulants in religious orders....
Does anyone know of any good documents/references that I can read that especially talk about the theology behind the veil?
Thanks,
Lauren
Does anyone know of any good documents/references that I can read that especially talk about the theology behind the veil?
Thanks,
Lauren
Trust me I am a real tom boy, I was climbing trees rather then playing with dolls. Wearing pants feels more comfortable then a skirt.
However, I am willing to give up being comfortable for Mass, if it means honoring our faith, Jesus and Mary and to save souls.
Lauren have you seen my post with all the links on it?
Anyway, Like I said before, I am going to veil and wear a skirt for Mass. YES, I DO LOVE THE MASS!!! YELL it out to the rooftops! I LOVE MASS!
QUOTE(DiscerningSoul @ Jun 10 2008, 01:08 PM)
YES, I DO LOVE THE MASS!!! YELL it out to the rooftops! I LOVE MASS!
I like you.
Can I yell too?
I LOVE MASS!!!
Feels pretty good.
Yay! Can I love Mass too? --I love the Mass! <3 times like 3,000.
Discerning Soul, I'm glad to hear you plan to wear a skirt and veil to Mass from now on! After this Sunday I decided that I think I want to veil every time I go to Mass/Adoration too. Adoration isn't as hard because there aren't as many people, but Mass will be a challenge for a while.. I just don't understand why people give me weird looks. But like I said, the teenage girl/long skirt/modest top/mantilla probably definitely has something to do with it. But it shouldn't! Grr. Anyway, I'm just saying that I will be going through this with you! (If this counts as something to 'go through').
I hadn't thought of it until about a year ago, when my friend who was taking me to Latin Mass advised me to bring a veil or scarf to cover my head.. I was like, wait, people still wear veils for religious reasons? But yeah, when you think about it, there's more than one reason why nuns' habits include veils! That's also a reason of mine.. I figure it's kind of 'practice' for religious life wearing a veil in God's presence now. When I get shy or embarrassed at Mass/Adoration wearing it, I just think, well, if I were a nun right now, I'd be wearing the same thing, wouldn't I? (I don't know if imagining being a nun is a bad way to get through it, but it works...)
You know, I don't know any documents specifically about veiling; I was wondering the same thing. I have read several different things about it, online mostly, but I'll have to look back to find the good, reliable ones like what you're looking for..
Discerning Soul, I'm glad to hear you plan to wear a skirt and veil to Mass from now on! After this Sunday I decided that I think I want to veil every time I go to Mass/Adoration too. Adoration isn't as hard because there aren't as many people, but Mass will be a challenge for a while.. I just don't understand why people give me weird looks. But like I said, the teenage girl/long skirt/modest top/mantilla probably definitely has something to do with it.
But it shouldn't! Grr. Anyway, I'm just saying that I will be going through this with you! (If this counts as something to 'go through').QUOTE(the lords sheep @ Jun 10 2008, 07:44 AM)
On another note, I am utterly fascinated with this topic. It's frankly never even crossed my mind to wear a veil to Mass/Adoration. I've never known anyone to do it but postulants in religious orders....
Does anyone know of any good documents/references that I can read that especially talk about the theology behind the veil?
Thanks,
Lauren
Does anyone know of any good documents/references that I can read that especially talk about the theology behind the veil?
Thanks,
Lauren
I hadn't thought of it until about a year ago, when my friend who was taking me to Latin Mass advised me to bring a veil or scarf to cover my head.. I was like, wait, people still wear veils for religious reasons? But yeah, when you think about it, there's more than one reason why nuns' habits include veils! That's also a reason of mine.. I figure it's kind of 'practice' for religious life wearing a veil in God's presence now. When I get shy or embarrassed at Mass/Adoration wearing it, I just think, well, if I were a nun right now, I'd be wearing the same thing, wouldn't I? (I don't know if imagining being a nun is a bad way to get through it, but it works...)
You know, I don't know any documents specifically about veiling; I was wondering the same thing. I have read several different things about it, online mostly, but I'll have to look back to find the good, reliable ones like what you're looking for..
QUOTE(Laudem Gloriae @ Jun 8 2008, 08:03 PM)
Just wear you're "pre-bridal veil" (if you are planning to be a Bride of Christ!) for your Beloved, Jesus, and let the others and their ill-informed opinions just hang! Jesus is the only one that matters. You should only worry about what GOD thinks about you, be concerned with HIS opinion only! Not mankind's. Our Blessed Virgin will be happy your are adorning yourself in this beautiful way for Her beloved, adorable Son too!
I had just read your post, then your comment about your pre-bridal veil slipped my mind as I wrote my last post--so it iS a good way to think about it! You worded it a lot better.... thank you for encouraging me more! Thinking about it as a 'pre-bridal' veil will help SO much, really... I am very happy thinking about it now.
Yay!QUOTE(Maria Faustina @ Jun 8 2008, 09:07 PM)
I have a question. I am 14. Am I too young to wear a veil to Mass or Adoration?
Actually, they make mantillas for younger girls (as in, they're a little smaller than normal size mantillas--not that it really matters), and there are even chapel caps for very young girls. They're little round pieces of lace that pin to your head. They work better for little girls because they stay put and don't hang in your face.
Not that those apply to you, but my point is that is has been anticipated for girls of any age to wear a veil! No matter how old you are, you are female, and He is God.
PP, I'm sorry! I already said that!
Anyway.
We had a hard time convincing one gentleman that no, we're not consecrated or anything, we're just, you know, women. With veils.
I think it helps if there are a bunch of you. Doing it alone can be scary. I'm also often afraid I'll disturb people... but well, I already disturb people by standing up straight, so I can just as well wear a chapel veil while doing it.
I've been on and off skirts over the last few years. Nowadays I always wear a skirt to church, and I used to just not wear trousers... but lately I've been wearing them again. Last Saturday, actually, I made a few people's eyes pop out because my church clothes were unsuitable for travel (in my opinion), so I changed in the presbytery before Mass. Unfortunately no-one answered the door so I went in through the church... in army pants... with veil, because I was in church. That was probably a combination the people chatting at the back hadn't seen yet.
For me, wearing a veil is a very personal thing. I used to have two, one with a tie and a bigger one (I should re-find the one with the tie, it was great). The one with the ties didn't obstruct my view but it did sit rather tight on my head, so I was always aware of it, and the other is always at the sides of my field of vision. These things help to remind me that I shouldn't be looking around, but inwards and forwards. It also works as a "busy" sign for those around me, and forces me to pause for a minute before I barge into the church.
And like M_F said, you're never too young for a veil. Wear it. Be totally cool. Infect everyone with the veil-virus.
Anyway.
We had a hard time convincing one gentleman that no, we're not consecrated or anything, we're just, you know, women. With veils.
I think it helps if there are a bunch of you. Doing it alone can be scary. I'm also often afraid I'll disturb people... but well, I already disturb people by standing up straight, so I can just as well wear a chapel veil while doing it.
I've been on and off skirts over the last few years. Nowadays I always wear a skirt to church, and I used to just not wear trousers... but lately I've been wearing them again. Last Saturday, actually, I made a few people's eyes pop out because my church clothes were unsuitable for travel (in my opinion), so I changed in the presbytery before Mass. Unfortunately no-one answered the door so I went in through the church... in army pants... with veil, because I was in church. That was probably a combination the people chatting at the back hadn't seen yet.
For me, wearing a veil is a very personal thing. I used to have two, one with a tie and a bigger one (I should re-find the one with the tie, it was great). The one with the ties didn't obstruct my view but it did sit rather tight on my head, so I was always aware of it, and the other is always at the sides of my field of vision. These things help to remind me that I shouldn't be looking around, but inwards and forwards. It also works as a "busy" sign for those around me, and forces me to pause for a minute before I barge into the church.
And like M_F said, you're never too young for a veil. Wear it. Be totally cool. Infect everyone with the veil-virus.
I thought I give a little update.
I have worn my veil at every Mass since this thread started and my skirt also.
I've had no problems with anyone at the two churches I attend at.
No more am I a nervous wreck.
I pray that more will come and veil in Mass.
I have worn my veil at every Mass since this thread started and my skirt also.
I've had no problems with anyone at the two churches I attend at.
No more am I a nervous wreck.
I pray that more will come and veil in Mass.
It can be a little scary to wear a veil to mass, especially if you are in a "liberal" diocese. I usually wear a plain dressy hat on Sundays or a scarf to weekday mass and always with a longish skirt and a loose shirt. I don't think that it draws too much attention, especially when I sit in the back.
QUOTE(the lords sheep @ Jun 10 2008, 08:44 AM)
On another note, I am utterly fascinated with this topic. It's frankly never even crossed my mind to wear a veil to Mass/Adoration. I've never known anyone to do it but postulants in religious orders....
Does anyone know of any good documents/references that I can read that especially talk about the theology behind the veil?
Thanks,
Lauren
Does anyone know of any good documents/references that I can read that especially talk about the theology behind the veil?
Thanks,
Lauren
Lauren,
Ave Maria.
I am glad to hear that this topic fascinates you. I think you are in good company, as more and more women today are taking back one of the many wonderful traditions that was taken from them over the past fifty years.
It is interesting to note that prior to the cultural revolution of the 1960's, every woman wore a veil to Mass. It was in fact required by Canon Law (1917). This tradition of women veiling their heads is a long-standing one, which, finds its roots in early Jewish heritage, as well as Sacred Scripture. The early Church fathers also supported veiling, and wrote short treatises in favor of it. It is similar to why a man does not wear a hat in Church as a sign of reverence and respect (however the veil has much deeper significance rooted in history).
A few articles:
http://acatholiclife.blogspot.com/2006/08/...-and-veils.html
http://www.latin-mass-society.org/mantilla.htm
http://www.fisheaters.com/theveil.html
http://web2.iadfw.net/carlsch/MaterDei/Library/the_veil.htm
-Davide
QUOTE(DiscerningSoul @ Jun 8 2008, 09:50 PM)
Your never too young.
That's right! At the TLM I go to, the little girls have them too, and some of the baby girls have snoods.
It doesn't have any connotations about age (except people who think it's outdated, but twenty would be just as outdated as fourteen if 'twere so).
http://www.catholicplanet.com/veil/index.htm
http://adorotedevote.blogspot.com/2006/05/...to-veil_24.html
http://web2.airmail.net/carlsch/MaterDei/H...omily040523.htm
http://www.fisheaters.com/theveil.html
** http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2007/12...l-campaign.html **
http://catholicrestorationists.wordpress.c...he-chapel-veil/
http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2007/04/v...-in-church.html
http://www.canonlaw.info/2006/09/vatican-i...apel-veils.html
Funny but look at #1 Yes! http://aestasultima.blogspot.com/2007/06/o...ghter-note.html
http://www.latin-mass-society.org/wearmantilla.htm
http://culbreath.wordpress.com/2007/10/13/latin-mass-faq/
http://www.catholicplanet.com/women/headcovering.htm
All the links that were shortened, with dots in it, don't work here...
In any case, if anyone wants to cover her head but is put off by the idea of a piece of lace on her head, please remember that a simple hat is just as proper and just as traditional (they've been worn by women in my country ever since Catholicism came out of oppression 155 years ago).
(This is not meant as mantilla-bashing - I wear one myself )
In any case, if anyone wants to cover her head but is put off by the idea of a piece of lace on her head, please remember that a simple hat is just as proper and just as traditional (they've been worn by women in my country ever since Catholicism came out of oppression 155 years ago).
(This is not meant as mantilla-bashing - I wear one myself
)
QUOTE(DiscerningSoul @ Jun 6 2008, 11:31 PM)
http://www.catholicplanet.com/veil/index.htm
http://adorotedevote.blogspot.com/2006/05/...to-veil_24.html
http://web2.airmail.net/carlsch/MaterDei/H...omily040523.htm
http://www.fisheaters.com/theveil.html
** http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2007/12...l-campaign.html **
http://catholicrestorationists.wordpress.c...he-chapel-veil/
http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2007/04/v...-in-church.html
http://www.canonlaw.info/2006/09/vatican-i...apel-veils.html
Funny but look at #1 Yes! http://aestasultima.blogspot.com/2007/06/o...ghter-note.html
http://www.latin-mass-society.org/wearmantilla.htm
http://culbreath.wordpress.com/2007/10/13/latin-mass-faq/
http://www.catholicplanet.com/women/headcovering.htm
OK I am sold, a veil for Mass.
<<they didn't have any veils so hats will have to do. LOL
http://adorotedevote.blogspot.com/2006/05/...to-veil_24.html
http://web2.airmail.net/carlsch/MaterDei/H...omily040523.htm
http://www.fisheaters.com/theveil.html
** http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2007/12...l-campaign.html **
http://catholicrestorationists.wordpress.c...he-chapel-veil/
http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2007/04/v...-in-church.html
http://www.canonlaw.info/2006/09/vatican-i...apel-veils.html
Funny but look at #1 Yes! http://aestasultima.blogspot.com/2007/06/o...ghter-note.html
http://www.latin-mass-society.org/wearmantilla.htm
http://culbreath.wordpress.com/2007/10/13/latin-mass-faq/
http://www.catholicplanet.com/women/headcovering.htm
OK I am sold, a veil for Mass.
<<they didn't have any veils so hats will have to do. LOLThis is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.