I couldn't find the last thread on this, but as a reminder to everyone (because I almost forgot) The Nun will be on ewtn tomorrow.

THE NUN (1 hr.)
Get an inside look at a religious vocation taking shape in the rich environment of European Catholic family life in this unique documentary look at a Swedish Catholic family and their daughter Marta who has decided to become a Carmelite Nun.
Sat 8/23/08 8:00 PM ET & 5 PM PT
Sun 8/24/08 2:00 AM ET & Sat 11 PM PT
Thu 8/28/08 1:00 PM ET & 10 AM PT

That is a beautiful documentary.

I'm so excited to see this! I'm recording it, too, just in case I want to see it again!

I havn't seen this yet. Is it good?

It's good.

They follow a girl as she enters Carmel (at 19, I believe), over the years, and are even allowed in the cloister a few times. And they focus for an important part on her family, and how they "deal" with and grow in her vocation.

Thank you for telling us of this. Sounds like a nice program.

I finally saw the preview on EWTN. It looks like a wonderful show. I'm excited because I'll actually be able to watch it (at one a.m. of course!).

I have watched it!

What a beautiful family!

I really enjoyed it. I suppose, just from watching, that Marta entered a 1991 Constitution Carmel. Please correct me if I am wrong. It looked very nice. She seemed very happy. I wish it would have showed more of her day, seeing as the director was able to come into the Carmel for at least one whole day, possibly two. I couldn't tell if she was able to come in after Marta's final vows as it didn't really show the inside of the Carmel with Marta/Sr. Mary of the Annuciation in her habit. It mostly just showed her sitting in her habit, and I think that she just opened the parlor grill up that is how they shot her that way. Hm... I don't know.

The family seemed very good. Her brother in France who is a writer reminded me of Miguel, St. Teresa of the Andes' brother. Was the brother who is a writer in France and the brother who finally came home with his girlfriend for the family reunion the same guy? The brother with his girlfriend talked about going to a Carmelite monastery with his brother, so that must mean there are two older boys. The one who is a writer seemed to not practice the faith anymore, although if they are the same guy it is good to see that he does now. Then too, the one with the girlfriend was obviously in France with his girlfriend so maybe they are the same guy... wonder where the other older boy was then, as I didn't see him at the reunion and they were all supposedly (except Marta) suppose to be there.

I wish it would have focused more on Marta though and the life in Carmel and then on all of the members of her family and their thoughts, although it did kind of do that for three or four of the children. I guess in an hour though it is hard to cover everything. What a good documentary... I am glad the woman who created it was able to. I am glad ewtn showed it! When was this made?

Isn't this just the first segment?? Aren't there two more parts of the documentary that are going to be shown later in the week?

Also, how could you tell that the monastery followed the 1991 constitutions? Just wondering..

I am watching it again right now.
After watching it the 1st time, I am more confident then ever of my vocation.

I just watched it. It was so beautiful.
I do wish that there had been more time spent within thet monastery, but it was still awesome.
It made me realize what an awesome thing a religious vocation is. Thanks be to God!

No, I think it is just one hour and the times it comes on again are just encores. On imdb it says the documentary is only 59 minutes long.

I would think it is 1991 because:

She was able to do a live in. I don't think this is true for all 1991 Carmels though because Annie was not able to do a live in and she entered a 1991 Carmel. However, I think only a 1991 Carmel would allow this.

The parlor grill was not double and thick, as 1990 Carmels usually are. The parlor grill could open in the documentary and she could hug her relatives. I don't think that happens in 1990 Carmels.

There was no grill seperating the nuns from the chapel. There was a wooden shutter type thing they open all the way up and one could see them. And it showed the nuns taking communion from the priest standing and with nothing in between them and him. This means they had to have come out of the cloister or he went in the cloister. I don't know how this worked out, but it seems that in a 1990 Carmel they would receive from behind the grill. I don't think all 1991 communities are like this, however there is probably some room to allow this to happen in a rule that is not as strict and that already allows for a nun to make her profession outside the cloister (we saw this in another video not related to this in the past) in the chapel.


(grill from video - picture from the Swedish Carmel's website)

- grill 1990 Carmel, Valparaiso Carmel in Nebraska


grill as seen from the nun's choir 1990 Carmel, Valapariso Carmel in Nebraska

At Ada Parnell, Carmel that follows 1991 Constitutions, there is a grill too...



It was said she was allowed to come home if her mother died. I don't think this is allowed, so it must be that she in a Carmel with a constitution that can allow this.

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I was just (a minute ago) looking on the Carmelite website for Carmelite nuns in Sweden and checking to see if there were any 1990 Constitution Carmels in Sweden. It appears like there isn't. There is just one Carmel in Sweden, and it is the one she entered. And it doesn't have the little red c thing beside it, which the 1990's usually have, so that means it is probably a 1991.

Here is their website: Carmel in Sweden - Marta's Carmel

It is nice to see they have a website. I wish I could read it!

Another example of 1990 grille:


Carmel of the Holy Spirit, Sheffield, UK

All of the pictures I posted, except the one from the Swedish Carmel, came from Margaret Clare's Website

This was such a beautiful documentary! I also wish that there had been more video of Sister's day in Carmel, but it IS a Carmel, so one shouldn't really expect to see ALL that much. She seemed so happy and at peace, and I absolutely LOVED her openness and honesty about her human feelings of doubt and loneliness and sadness at times over being separated from her family. I often wonder about this myself, about how I would be able to handle my feelings. To see her admit that these feelings remain even in religious life, that it is perfectly fine for religious to have these feelings, accepting them as human, really made me more confident in my ability to answer His call appropriately.

I think it was a really neat project that the director undertook, and I am so thankful that she did!

And I believe that the brother with the girlfriend was the same brother that strayed from the Faith, the one that is a writer.

Completely off-topic:
That's some pretty sanctuary.
Back to your regular scheduled programming.

Here is the website for the Sheffield Carmel - http://www.kirkedge.org.uk/index.html .

I have a friend who is visiting there, the Chapter voted on her ans she will enter this Carmel on Sept 8, Our Lady's Birthday.

I am hoping to visit Sept 30 to Oct 7th - now to raise the airfare!


What I do like about the Carmel in "The Nun", is that though it may be a 91 Carmel, they are smart in not allowing the sisters on the internet and no cameras or interviews with her during her first 5 years. All this is very important to her having a chance of staying and in her formation. It must be one of those 91 Carmels who are a lot like a 90s.

I too wish there was more with the "nun", Sr. Mary of the Annunciation, and less of her family. It was nice to see them and all, but for ME I wanted more of her life, etc. but then what was shown was intrusive enough and was very kind of the prioress to let them in to shoot.

Laudem,
Excellent points all around. Gorgeous video....making me want to change vocations! (just joking!).
I, too, wish we could have seen a little bit more of the Carmel, but I thought the Prioress was especially generous and prudent in allowing them in at all, and even better, that they gave them a five year waiting period. Very beautiful.
We watched the show as a community yesterday and we all got something different out of it.
Pax.

Laudem,
Excellent points all around. Gorgeous video....making me want to change vocations! (just joking!).
I, too, wish we could have seen a little bit more of the Carmel, but I thought the Prioress was especially generous and prudent in allowing them in at all, and even better, that they gave them a five year waiting period. Very beautiful.
We watched the show as a community yesterday and we all got something different out of it.
Pax.

I don't get EWTN so I am missing this and it sounds wonderful. Wanted to say, though, that the Sheffield Sanctuary is exactly what I picture a Carmel to be! :-)

You can stream it online from EWTN.com. That's what I do most of the time, because I don't have cable either.

I would like to see this too! But I also don't get EWTN. I also know nothing about watching it online... Could someone tell me how you watch it, and do you have to watch it the same time as it's on? Thank you..

I've actually recorded it with my camera, and so I have a boot-leg version of it on my computer. I figured I might want to watch again ... in my room, and since I don't have a tv and it is recorded downstairs that might be the only way to do it. I can't publish it on any of the video things because of copyright. I don't know what to do. Any one know a way I can share it?

To watch it on the EWTN Online website go to http://origin.ewtn.com/audiovideo/index.asp and click on your appropriate country, language and internet speed.

Example: I live in America so I click on "Live EWTN TV - English US 500k" and a Windows Media screen for video pops up. In the top right hand corner of the screen, there is an icon to so from the small screen version to almost or all full screen.

I had to watch it online as after a huge hale storm where I live, it damaged my DirecTV satellite receiver and has to be repaired. My brother copied it to his Tivo and then put it on a DVD for me so I can keep it.

The next showing is August 28 at 1pm - this time is the Hanceville, AL time! So for me, the time is different - it will be on at 12 pm for me in Texas, so watch your time zone and check your TV guide tthat's on the TV listing EWTN programming. (Maybe obvious but as I have to watch online shows for awhile, I keep forgetting this when I see shows I want to watch on the EWTN paper guide I get from them in the mail! I miss so many shows!)