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Thomist-in-Training
I don't know any! All I know is St. Clare; and St. Veronica Giuliani whom it seems there is little about in English--and her I've only heard of but don't really know her life. Are there English web-pages or biographies about her, besides the one page at EWTN? I read a brief bio (like three pages) of St. Colette. I read one page in a book about St. Catherine of Bologna, a few years ago. Are there other Poor Clare canonized saints? And what are the best resources on the ones listed above? Thank you! D.gif (I wouldn't mind hearing about the different branches of Poor Clares too, Colettine and Urbanist and Capuchin & PA if anyone knows.)
osapientia
I found some blesseds and two saints (one you already know, St. Veronica Giuliani) at www.paxetbonum.net/saints. The have a page for each one listed in order by the date of their feast.

Bl Agnes of Prague
Bl Yolande of Poland
St Veronica Giuliani
Bl Cunegunda
Bl Beatrice De Silva (Conceptionist Poor Clares)
Bl Josephine Leroux
St Agnes of Assisi (blood sister of St Clare)

Pax

Laudem Gloriae
I have a ton of books on the Poor Clares, St. Clare, St. Francis, etc. but ome books I love are:

For St. Colette, Mother Mary Francis's (PCC) book, "Walled in Light" is the best book on St. Colette.

Their on numerous great books on St. Clare - I particularly love - "Clare and Her Sisters - Lovers of the Poor Christ" by Madeline Pecora Nugent, SFO and "Clare: Her Light and Her Song" by Sr. Mary Seraphim, PCPA.

Blessed Marie Celine of the Presentation - "Blessed Marie Celine of the Presentation" compiled by the Poor Clare Nuns of Rockford, IL

osapientia
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I don't know any! All I know is St. Clare; and St. Veronica Giuliani whom it seems there is little about in English--and her I've only heard of but don't really know her life. Are there English web-pages or biographies about her, besides the one page at EWTN? I read a brief bio (like three pages) of St. Colette. I read one page in a book about St. Catherine of Bologna, a few years ago. Are there other Poor Clare canonized saints? And what are the best resources on the ones listed above? Thank you! D.gif (I wouldn't mind hearing about the different branches of Poor Clares too, Colettine and Urbanist and Capuchin & PA if anyone knows.)


I've not heard of "Urbanist" Poor Clares...would you comment a bit more on that? Thanks so much.

Thomist-in-Training
I don't know that much, just that before the Poor Clares of the Immaculate were what they are now, they were previously Urbanist Poor Clares (in Italy).

Britannica says:

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The [Poor Clare] rule was revised a number of times until, in 1263/64, Pope Urban IV issued a rule permitting common ownership of property, greater self-governance for the order, and other concessions. The monasteries adopting this rule came to be called the Urbanist Poor Clares, or officially the Order of St. Clare (O.S.C.), whereas those communities who continued to observe the stricter Rule of St. Clare (as revised in 1253) became known as the Primitives, or Poor Clares (P.C.). Early in the 15th century St. Colette of Corbie (1381–1447), in France, sought to reform the order, restoring the primitive observance in 17 monasteries during her lifetime and reasserting the strict principle of poverty; her followers came to be called the Colettine Poor Clares, or Poor Clares of St. Colette (P.C.C.), and today are located mostly in France. The Capuchin Sisters, originating in Naples in 1538, and the Alcantarines, of 1631, are also Poor Clares of the strict observance.


From http://www.ofmconv.org/English/st.clare.htm:

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In the year 1263 the original rule underwent a final modification at the hands of Urban IV. On 18 October of that year the sovereign pontiff issued the rule which is in the most general observance among the Poor Clares and which has given the name "Urbanist" to a large division of the order. It is noteworthy that in Urban's Rule the new community received for the first time the official title of "Order of St. Clare". In a few particulars the new regulations were less severe than in the rule of 1247. For instance, the abbess was empowered to dispense with the obligation of silence during certain hours of the day at her good pleasure. The sections of the rule are arranged in a new order and are divided into twenty-six chapters. For the most part the very words of the previous rule are employed. One important change must be noted. Innocent IV had left the Second Order in charge of the general and provincial of the Friars Minor. Urban IV withdrew from these officials practically all their authority over the Second Order and bestowed it on the cardinal protector.
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