[quote name='Apotheoun' date='28 March 2010 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1269804896' post='2082071']
The Eastern Churches have a different custom in connection with priestly celibacy (n.b., only our bishops are celibate), but the Western custom is not a secret, and no man is forced to become a priest. That said, the present difficulties are a result of the moral relativism promoted by modern culture, and the issue of celibacy - if it has any impact at all - is only of minor importance. It is interesting to note that the people who relish attacking the Church in connection with these terrible crimes are in most cases the same people who support the promiscuity of the "sexual revolution" of the 1960s.
[quote name='God Conquers' date='28 March 2010 - 04:43 PM' timestamp='1269805415' post='2082083']
On thing though... what do you all think about natural cultural components in a mass of mixed cultures? For instance, Native American incensing with sweetgrass and eagle feather, or an African offertory... as long as they are done by those specific cultures? I think those things are awesome and tend to really add to my worship experience.
I think it depends on the situation. In a parish with an active ministry for Native American parishioners, on the feast of Blessed Kateri Tekakwitha, I can see an offering of sweet grass adding a nice touch to the liturgy. Add to it some [url="http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/m/a/mangreat.htm"]native-influenced hymns[/url], and that's an authentic expression of a cultural identity that doesn't distract from the sacred mysteries.
The music is not authentic to any culture I know of, except American pop-culture. The "Latino" songs are really just light rock hits with Spanish lyrics.
I know drums have been used in certain religions (Shinto, Yoruba, Santeria, etc). The drum set, however, does not fall into the category of "divine percussion". Its original purpose was for military, orchestra, jazz, and now it has been adapted for rock 'n' roll. You could say that the drum set is a strictly secular, if not commercial, instrument. Can a drum set be used for worship? Maybe, and I might expect an expert percussionist to make it sound beautiful. But this one-and-TWO-and-three-and-FOUR business is not a beat typically reserved for religious ceremonies.
[quote name='eustace scrubb' date='27 March 2010 - 01:43 PM' timestamp='1269708185' post='2081351']
I in NO WAY oppose allying ourselves with Israel. What I do believe, however, is that they need to stop treating Palestinians in the occupied territories inhumanely. You guys DO realize that Palestinian Christians and their children are the victims of a lot of this stuff, too, right?
Btw I'm ethnically Jewish and therefore have a vested interest in the existence of Israel. Because if there's an attempt at a holocaust here (or in a country I'm in while traveling abroad), I know better than to rely on another country to take me in...
I'm with you 100%. Israel has a right to exist, but that doesn't excuse their abuse of Palestinians.
[quote name='Chestertonian' date='26 March 2010 - 06:09 PM' timestamp='1269637776' post='2080878']
You're kidding! A regular congregant at Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church snubbed a right wing, orthodox "Zionist" Jew?
[quote name='Apotheoun' date='26 March 2010 - 05:52 PM' timestamp='1269636755' post='2080858']
It would handle the situation as it always has . . . by trusting in God's providence.
It would certainly be a sign that the Church needs more humility and charity.
[quote name='Socrates' date='26 March 2010 - 02:28 PM' timestamp='1269624500' post='2080648']
Besides, sodomy is dishonorable, and unworthy of an American fighting man. Call me quaint and old-fashioned, but I think some minimal standard of decency and honor should at least be attempted to be preserved.
Unfortunately, I don't know if that same minimal standard is being held to all soldiers in the same way. Not from some of the stories coming out of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay. But then, I'm just a civilian relying on civilian media outlets. I don't have any contact with the military, so I don't really know.
I agree with hassan that America has been a little too cozy with Israel throughout history and has maybe overlooked some improprieties by the Israeli government, but I don't understand Obama's motive or intention with this move. It makes him look like either a snob or a coward. I wonder if it was calculated or if he really just lost his cool?
I am going to have a conversation with my priest friend talking about ways we can foster holy vocations in our young altar servers. One simple way I can think of is by teaching them discipline and attention to detail - how they dress, how they sit, how they hold a candle, etc. I know this does not explicitly encourage vocations but it does prepare young people for a life of obedience, either to their religious order or to the diocese they serve.
Can you think of other things we can do for our altar servers? Do you have any wild ideas, or have seen any programs that have worked well?
[quote name='zunshynn' date='25 March 2010 - 06:26 PM' timestamp='1269552396' post='2080020']
Ask Jesus, if it is his will that you struggle and suffer through them, to please use it to give grace to a soul mired in sin.
I really like this. It reminds me of the story of St. Jerome who had a vision of Jesus asking him for something. St. Jerome offered his writings, his studies, and all his treasured possessions. But it was not enough, said Jesus. So St. Jerome offered Jesus his very life. Even that was not enough for Jesus. What Jesus truly wanted from St. Jerome was his sins.
Jesus wants my every desire, even the sinful ones. He wants to transform me and make me new (Rev 21:5). Through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, whose very body was transformed into a tabernacle for the Lord, may I give over my imperfections so they may be tested in the purifying fire of the sacred heart of Jesus.
Can DADT ever be truly humane? Even the Church wants people with same-sex attractions to be honest about it. I would be really interested to hear an in-depth explanation of why such citizens are not welcome in the armed forces.
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed by Thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.