[quote name='peacenluvbaby' date='Jan 16 2006, 08:38 AM']Hello again, Vivacristorey,
Peace to you again! I totally forgive you! I can even see that your reaction was kind of normal since you are part of ecyd, and also a teenager. As a teen I might react more angrily than now - but that lack of clearheadedness actually helps my point that teenagers shouldn't make life choices in high school. Especially in an environment that itself is extraordinarily conducive (if not pressuring) for the decision to be "yes I join."
One thing about your article - It is a well known fact that Zenit is operated by the Legionaries, so it is somewhat questionable to claim it as a source of unbiased information about them.
Secondly, you state the the RC/Legion is the most under attack of all Movements. Actually, the other day, Pope Benedict severely sanctioned another of your "fellow" movements, the NeoCatechumenates because of Liturgical irregularities in their practice.
Thirdly, you keep saying that I have "accused" which I have not done! I simply stated my experience and some facts - namely that an investigation is ongoing, and that I don't think it is appropriate for minors to live the life of a consecrated person - strict norms and policies of obedience to these norms - when they, as minors, are not sufficiently mature nor legally endowed with the right to make life decisions such as marriage.
[color=red]Question - would your parents allow you to seriously date, with the intention of marriage, in High School? [/color]
YET, THIS IS WHAT the precandidacy says is its purpose for existence. A period of discernment - serious dating if you will - to see if you are to be consecrated - married - at the end of senior year. I just see this as premature for young girls to be making life decisions with hormones raging. Even the name "precandidate" suggests discernment, and a serious commitment which I think is very much premature for girls in high school.
As far as "Fr. Maciel" - I have not accused him, I only pointed out that this pope, Benedict, has re-opened the case against him. If he is innocent, then I think he and everyone would agree that the investigation will prove it! (Think of Cardinal Bernadin, who was accused and shown to be innocent) But I dont think we should hide from information that is uncomfortable.
I hope my position is clear. I am not trying to be a Hater!!!! I'm just giving some TRUE, VALID INFO about my experience and current events surrounding the Legion, and specifically the RI "Precandidacy"
Love you all!
I'm sorry, but I cannot accept from you any "accusations" which is really exactly what they are. God calls at different points in a person's life. He does not have a systematic calling. He does not say, "Every person is called after they are eighteen years of age !" No! He called St. Therese of Liseuix when she was VERY young, and you cannot possibly say that her calling was not genuine.
Maybe YOU didnt' have a good experience at the precandidacy, and maybe YOU weren't mature enough (and there's nothing wrong with that) but every precandidate I've ever seen is amazingly radiantly happy, a happiness no one can say is false. Christ radiates off their faces, and they think they're the most blessed people in the world for being able to go to that school : I will ask for the final time that you do not spread lies and rumors anymore. Just because you may have not been called to this vocation does not mean no one is and that it is evil. Just because YOU didnt have a great experience doesnt mean NO ONE will. Your words are hurtful, whether or not you intend them to be, to those of us who love the movement with all our hearts. Your words are insulting when you say that the precandidacy is not a good thing for those of us who have relatives and friends who have been there or are planning to go there ourselves.
Sometimes Christ calls in the strangest of times, such as the years we have, to use your phrase, "raging hormones" and are a little unstable. One of the newly consecrated said herself she did not go to the precandidacy for the right reasons, but nevertheless it was God's call and she's more happy and joyous than she's ever been in her life. and incidentally, I completelyl believe her. You can't give a smile like that and not be truly happy.
I will simply ask you to stop posting on this thread if you do not want to say anything kind about something the Vatican has approved. I am young, yes, and I have "raging hormones" but that does not in any case mean that my opinions dont matter, or that I dont know as much about my beloved Movement in Mother Church as you do. Did Christ himself not say, "Let the children come to me... Unless you become like these you will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven." ? Yes, teenagers make mistakes but God loves us and reveals to us some things he doesnt reveal to adults.
I believe the greatest reason I love the movement so much is because of its influence on my faith. Also for the same reason I'm Catholic. I have faith. : I cant see everything, but I believe it because I have faith. I have faith that there are no lies in Nuestro Padre's eyes, and that what they've taught me is true. Christ gave me this movement as a gift. Please dont tell me the gift my best friend has given me is evil, because I will simply disregard what you say.
Im sorry, once again, for any harsh words I have posted here, but remember that Christ was not always gentle. Sometimes he was blunt and others took his remarks as insults. Please take them as what I know for a fact is true through countless hours of adoration on this exact topic we discuss, and remember that I love you all very much and I only want you to know the truth.
Someday, I know, you'll know this is truth.
Please dont categorize teenagers like the mass media does: hormonal, overdramatic, shallow, and insecure. We are more than the world tells us. We are children of God.