Tridenteen Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 JMJ Well, my name's Tridenteen, I am in highschool, and belong to your typical 1962 FSSP community (parish). I am trying to find a Latin Mass order that wears a habit, teaches, and (here comes the shocker) professes obediance to the Pope[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/twitch.gif[/img] Yes, I know that is a really tall order. I have come to two conclusions if I can't find an order like that: I can either join a congregation like the Dominican Sisters of Mary Mother of the Eucharist..or get a job as a professional liturgical dancer [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/breakdance.gif[/img] Well, if anyone knows of a TLM group of nuns here in the US that teaches, please let me know. I already know about the group in, cough, the Midwest, and I believe, thankfully, that I am supposed to go somehwere else[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/funeral.gif[/img] . I might end up finding an order, for all I know, and already have some sketches, a name, and some idea of what the habit is to look like. It would be three congregations,ie teaching, nursing, and contemplative, and somepoint in the future runa nursing home for elderly, or ill priests (ones that are on sick leave). Anways, if anyone wants me too, I can elaborate, but I won't bore any of you unnecessarily! Anyways, its wonderful that my mother let me get an account on here (let's all give Tridentinemama a round of applause[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/clap.gif[/img] ) and I am grateful for any feedback! Well, that is all for now! In God's sufficient grace, Tridenteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 You are a bit young to be thinking of founding a community quite yet, although your enthusiasm in remarkable! You mention an order in the mid-West, so I am presuming you mean the new one in Kansas next to the FSSP priests? If not, you might check them out and let us know more about them. They will be Latin Mass and teaching, but they are very new right now, and as far as I know they will be Carmelite (although I don't know if this is OCD or OCarm). I haven't had a lot of luck getting info on them and what is on the web is conflicting info. There are other TLM communities, but I will let others answer you because I don't know all the ones that do teaching, and that seems to be an interest of yours. Most of the ones I know are cloistered. The only other ones that might do teaching are the Franciscans of the Immaculate, and someone else has posted photos and info about them. They have an apostolic branch and a cloistered one, but I don't know if the active sisters use the TLM or only the cloistered ones. Someone else can tell us I am sure. Welcome here and prayers fro your discernment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotusTuusMaria Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) I think the perfect community that fits the description you're talking about is the Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Church!!!! http://www.sistersofmarymotherofthechurch.org/ Edited January 15, 2010 by TotusTuusMaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridenteen Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 JMJ I had heard that the Sisters of Mary Mother of the Church had decided to become English Mass, was that incorrect? They have beautiful habits, though, and I have been on their website. Also, Nunsense, did you say the Carmelites of the Transfiguration have a website? All i have seen so far is the mention of them on Roman Catholic Vocations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 and TridentineMama! I love the TLM too... I have recently started attending an FSSP parish and am considering registering as a parishioner there, but it's an hour away and I'm not in the diocese actually, and my family does not care for it. So I have to think about it some more. I do love it though! What is the order you were talking about in the Midwest? I have a feeling it's something really obvious and I'm going to feel like a major dork when you tell me... but that's okay, because I am a major dork. No sense, in maintaining false pretenses! Have you heard of the [url="http://sistersofmarymotherofthechurch.org/"]Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Church?[/url] They came into the Church as a community after breaking off from a sedevacantist community... They're in Washington State. Right now, I think their apostolate is mostly maintaining a retreat house, but the community they came from was a teaching order, and I don't know if they hope to teach again once there are more of them. They're a lovely community, I've met several personally. Right now, I don't think they are able to have the TLM all of the time, and I don't know which breviary they pray... but I'm sure they'd be happy to answer your questions and they may have other ideas for a community that might be a good fit for you! It is unfortunate that there aren't more active orders that are in communion with the Church that have the TLM... hopefully that will change soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridenteen Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 [quote name='zunshynn' date='14 January 2010 - 09:46 PM' timestamp='1263523571' post='2037377'] [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/welcome.gif[/img] and [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/clap.gif[/img] TridentineMama! I love the TLM too... I have recently started attending an FSSP parish and am considering registering as a parishioner there, but it's an hour away and I'm not in the diocese actually, and my family does not care for it. So I have to think about it some more. I do love it though! What is the order you were talking about in the Midwest? I have a feeling it's something really obvious and I'm going to feel like a major dork when you tell me... but that's okay, because I am a major dork. No sense, in maintaining false pretenses! Have you heard of the [url="http://sistersofmarymotherofthechurch.org/"]Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Church?[/url] They came into the Church as a community after breaking off from a sedevacantist community... They're in Washington State. Right now, I think their apostolate is mostly maintaining a retreat house, but the community they came from was a teaching order, and I don't know if they hope to teach again once there are more of them. They're a lovely community, I've met several personally. Right now, I don't think they are able to have the TLM all of the time, and I don't know which breviary they pray... but I'm sure they'd be happy to answer your questions and they may have other ideas for a community that might be a good fit for you! [b]It is unfortunate that there aren't more active orders that are in communion with the Church that have the TLM... hopefully that will change soon![/b] [/quote] JMJ I second that! I feel very bad about the Pius the V nuns. Their habits are beautiful, and they sing like angles. Don't let the distance intimdate you from the Latin Mass, my family lives an hour away from our Church, and we are from a completely different dioscese! I have heard of the Sister of Mary Mother of the Church. They look beautiful, and seem very nice. My one big thing is that I would like to join at 17. Obviously, I know it's up to God's plan,BUT I would like to join early.[b] [/b]Thank you for your kindness Tridenteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Tridenteen' date='15 January 2010 - 01:45 PM' timestamp='1263523510' post='2037376'] JMJ I had heard that the Sisters of Mary Mother of the Church had decided to become English Mass, was that incorrect? They have beautiful habits, though, and I have been on their website. Also, Nunsense, did you say the Carmelites of the Transfiguration have a website? All i have seen so far is the mention of them on Roman Catholic Vocations. [/quote] A woman named Mary Pedry, had a blog online for awhile, which she has closed down, but I did find a cached post that she made on the Holy Vocations blog - dated just a week or so ago.... Wednesday, January 06, 2010,4:40 PM Up-Date on new Carmelite group Hello All - praised be Jesus Christ! It has been a while since I have posted on this site. Very much has progressed and changed regarding my own life and the life of the endeavor to begin a new Carmelite congregation for teaching. Our Lady seems to be blessing this endeavor - there is a small group of women who began to live together in the diocese of Kansas, near Maple Hill. They have received permission from the Archbishop to begin living together as a sort of third order Carmelite -and they are under the direction of a very holy priest. posted by Mary Pedry now this conflicts with some of the things that I read here (where Mary Pedry and Mary Anne Miller are listed as contacts for the Carmelites of the Transfiguration)... http://tradvocations.blogspot.com/2008/11/carmelite-sisters-of-transfiguration.html ...so I wanted to find out just how far advanced they were in their formation (the above site says they did formation with the Elysburg Carmel, but I think that needs to be confirmed. I tried phoning Father Gordon but only got his answering machine. It appears that he is handling enquiries for them. Since I am in Australia and he is in the US, the time zone makes it difficult for me. Someone else may wish to try him. I left my phone number but he may not want to make an international call just to answer a query. If anyone else would like to try contacting him, that would be wonderful, and perhaps you could post here whatever information you find out?? This is the contact info that was on the blog... MAPLE HILL - St John Vianney Church 14631 Waterman Crossing Sun 8 am & 10 am Weekdays 8 am Pho (785) 256-4727 Diocese (Fr James Gordon FSSP) Edited January 15, 2010 by nunsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Tridenteen' date='15 January 2010 - 01:59 PM' timestamp='1263524365' post='2037384'] JMJ I second that! I feel very bad about the Pius the V nuns. Their habits are beautiful, and they sing like angles. Don't let the distance intimdate you from the Latin Mass, my family lives an hour away from our Church, and we are from a completely different dioscese! I have heard of the Sister of Mary Mother of the Church. They look beautiful, and seem very nice. My one big thing is that I would like to join at 17. Obviously, I know it's up to God's plan,BUT I would like to join early.[b] [/b]Thank you for your kindness Tridenteen [/quote] So Miss Eager, do you have a spiritual director yet? And have you discussed the different spiritualities and which ones you feel drawn to? It isn't just about teaching or Latin Mass, but also about how that apostolate is lived out, in the charism of the founders of the community. So be sure to do the homework before sitting the exam! (just meaning that enthusiasm is wonderful but back it up with some research and reflection on the different lifestyles). If you're going to be in this for the long haul (the rest of your life) then it has to be coming from a really deep place. There may come a time when there is no enthusiasm or feeling left, and then it comes down to "through good times and bad" forever and ever type of thing. I am not trying to dampen your enthusiasm though, it is a breath of fresh air, thank you for sharing it with us. Edited January 15, 2010 by nunsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
she_who_is_not Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Tridenteen, The sisters I'm linking to are loyal to the pope. However, there is a group in New Hampshire with the same name that is not. They are teachers! http://sistersofstbenedictcenter.org/ http://www.saintbenedict.com/the_order/sisters.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laetitia crucis Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Hey Tridenteen!! Like a lot that have already posted, my first thought for you was also the Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Church! And well, to fill you in on the [url="http://marymediatrix.com"]Franciscans of the Immaculate[/url]... Internationally, the [url="http://www.marymediatrix.com"]Franciscans of the Immaculate[/url] have the TLM [b]every day[/b]; however, in the U.S. right now they are only able to have it once a week. This is simply because their American friar priests are still getting used to it. Eventually the Sisters are hoping to have the TLM every single day. I can tell you most definitely that the Sisters find not having the TLM everyday a great sacrifice. Outside of the U.S., they are able to have the TLM daily. This is what a lot of the Sisters miss most when they are missioned here in the U.S. However, I would say the only "requirement" missing here is that the Franciscans of the Immaculate are not formal teachers, as in "schoolteachers". Instead, they do various types of apostolate -- teaching catechism; works of mercy; media works, such as radio, television, publishing, etc.; spreading devotion to Our Lady; and well.. if I had to put it simply, I'd say their goal is to convert the world to Jesus through promoting the love and devotion of our Blessed Mother, though they are semi-contemplatives. They teach love of Our Lord and Our Lady through their very way of life. This shows how: [url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/PRIESTS/TRACMARI.TXT"]Traccia Mariana[/url] So... I suppose if you interpreted "teaching" in a rather broad sense.. I'd still consider them "teachers". Here's their vocation video, "Come, Follow Me" -- I know this is featuring the friars, but I think it's important to note that both the Friars AND the Sisters have "twin constitutions" and are First Order Franciscans. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7V3iYeZU0E[/media] Ave Maria! lc P.S. -- When I first discerned my vocation, I too wanted to found my own order. I wanted to found a female order of Jesuits to reform the current order... A little ambitious maybe?... now I just pray for them. A lot. P.S.S. -- The Franciscans of the Immaculate allow aspirants to enter at 16. Edited January 15, 2010 by laetitia crucis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridenteen Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 P.S. -- When I first discerned my vocation, I too wanted to found my own order. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/hehe.gif[/img] I wanted to found a female order of Jesuits to reform the current order... [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif[/img] [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_pound.gif[/img] A little ambitious maybe?... now I just pray for them. A lot. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/signofcross.gif[/img] P.S.S. -- The Franciscans of the Immaculate allow aspirants to enter at 16. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/saint.gif[/img] [/quote] JMJ You are very kind. I am considering all options, and I think that people periodically consider founding, so I was a bit curious to see what the response would be. I also have talked to the Dominican Sisters of Mary Mother of the Eucharist, who are lovely. Are the Franciscan Sisters you mentioned part of the Immaculata Militia? I have read articles about some new Jesuits in Europe, and they seem to be a bit more conservative now :-) Tridenteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Not to hijack this thread but I don't want to start a whole new one with very little info. I heard back from Father Gordon FSSP about the Carmelites of the Transfiguration and we are exhanging emails now. Here is just a bit of what he wrote... [i]We are in the process of starting up a Carmelite teaching order. We have the permission of the local ordinary (Archbishop Joseph Naumann). We also have the use of a nearby Rectory. We have a few young ladies already interested. We are in the process of getting a 'Mother Superior', possibly from another Carmelite Order, here in the US. I can't give all the details on that yet.[/i] If I hear more, I will make a new thread to update everyone on their progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilde Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 [quote name='nunsense' date='15 January 2010 - 03:36 AM' timestamp='1263544583' post='2037632'] Not to hijack this thread but I don't want to start a whole new one with very little info. I heard back from Father Gordon FSSP about the Carmelites of the Transfiguration and we are exhanging emails now. Here is just a bit of what he wrote... [i]We are in the process of starting up a Carmelite teaching order. We have the permission of the local ordinary (Archbishop Joseph Naumann). We also have the use of a nearby Rectory. We have a few young ladies already interested. We are in the process of getting a 'Mother Superior', possibly from another Carmelite Order, here in the US. I can't give all the details on that yet.[/i] If I hear more, I will make a new thread to update everyone on their progress. [/quote] wha?.... Wow. I had no idea and I've been going to one of the FSSP communities in Naumann's diocese for a long time... I did switch permanently to an Institute community a couple of weeks ago, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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