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The Wedding Dress Orders (For Us Romantics)

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MissScripture
[quote name='Lisa' timestamp='1318963084' post='2323279']

You're correct- I know the NDs/DSMME don't wear wedding rings. The story I heard was that in some war time (possibly the Civil War), the Sisters melted down their wedding rings to sell the gold and help the poor. They continued this tradition, and the DSMME carried on this tradition when they started their new community from the NDs.
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My sister just said that historically they didn't have the money for the rings, so they just never used them. I like your story better. :hehe2:

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Lisa
[quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1318978182' post='2323390']
My sister just said that historically they didn't have the money for the rings, so they just never used them. I like your story better. :hehe2:
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Fail. Wow. Now I feel bad for sharing inaccuracies, please forgive me.

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IgnatiusofLoyola
[quote name='Lisa' timestamp='1318979206' post='2323396']

Fail. Wow. Now I feel bad for sharing inaccuracies, please forgive me.
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It's razzle dazzle. After all you didn't claim to be grand poobah of info on the NDs. All you said was, "The story I heard......." i.e., you put a caveat on your information. Now, if you were one of my "helpers" (or whatever they were called) on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" then I might be upset.

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MissScripture
[quote name='Lisa' timestamp='1318979206' post='2323396']

Fail. Wow. Now I feel bad for sharing inaccuracies, please forgive me.
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Well, I don't know for sure if that's completely inaccurate or if my sister was just giving an abbreviated version or something. :idontknow: But like I said, I like you're story better. ;)

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the171
Well, the Lafayette Carms do. :) Love these gals. Brittlyn, now Sr.Teresa of Jesus, was JUST clothed on the 15. This is Sr.Maria Faustina of Merciful Love's clothing. I'll post Sr.Teresa in a minute.

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Queen'sDaughter
The pics are lovely. It seems to me that the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary wear the gowns too, but I am not sure. Does anyone know?

Ignatius, of course you are right in what you said about discerners and gowns. Personally I would go to whatever order God wants regardless of such things, but at the same time I am very glad that they do use the symbolism of the dress, and later, the profession ring. I think that all women have a desire to make themselves beautiful for their beloved, and the wearing of the gown is a way to express the desire for internal beauty to please the Beloved.

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OnlySunshine
[quote name='Queen'sDaughter' timestamp='1318991634' post='2323468']
The pics are lovely. It seems to me that the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary wear the gowns too, but I am not sure. Does anyone know?

Ignatius, of course you are right in what you said about discerners and gowns. Personally I would go to whatever order God wants regardless of such things, but at the same time I am very glad that they do use the symbolism of the dress, and later, the profession ring. I think that all women have a desire to make themselves beautiful for their beloved, and the wearing of the gown is a way to express the desire for internal beauty to please the Beloved.
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I have heard that they do, too, but I couldn't find any pictures of the investiture ceremony. :(

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GraceUk
Ages and ages ago somebody posted a video of three postulants beng clothed in lovely wedding dresses. It was an order in France or Belgium I think. Anybody still got the link. I seem to have lost it.

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brandelynmarie
Hope y'all don't mind me posted these other pictures, but they are beautiful. :love:

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Sr Mary Catharine OP
Yes, the MICM wear a wedding dress at PROFESSION! So you have to keep your hair looking somewhat normal through novitiate.
When I came to the monastery I had to let go of the wedding dress, candle, and crown of flowers! :-) But you know what? My profession ceremonies were SO BEAUTIFUL! It was about the inner reality that was important on that day!

I certainly understand everyone's feelings about all this. It's something very feminine!

We Dominicans wear our baptismal gown everyday! :-)

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faithcecelia
[quote name='Sr. Mary Catharine' timestamp='1319028711' post='2323621']
Yes, the MICM wear a wedding dress at PROFESSION! So you have to keep your hair looking somewhat normal through novitiate.
When I came to the monastery I had to let go of the wedding dress, candle, and crown of flowers! :-) But you know what? My profession ceremonies were SO BEAUTIFUL! It was about the inner reality that was important on that day!

I certainly understand everyone's feelings about all this. It's something very feminine!

We Dominicans wear our baptismal gown everyday! :-)
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I can't help but think that the bridal gown for final vows makes more sense, but then I also think there is something beautiful about pinning the black veil over the white for the day..... I was never bothered by a gown for Clothing or not, but having had it go wrong once, I am definately glad I didn't have it. I mean, I have certainly not divorced God! But neither am I fully and formally consecrated to Him in Church law.

Anyway, some of these photos are absolutely beautiful, and if thats the way a community does it then its perfectly right that the women enjoy their day.

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vee
[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' timestamp='1318972694' post='2323341']

Sometimes someone will post on Phatmass that the posters are being very superficial and worldly to be thinking about things like wedding dresses, crowns of flowers, and wedding rings.
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Yeah, that'd be me :wave:

I like to interrupt the fun by posting stuff like this and saying "no servant is greater than his master" and where He goes, we too are also to go

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maximillion
Re the above.
Oh those beautiful veils - that pull on your neck, rub on your head and are often too tight and hurt or too lose and fall off.
Bare feet. Lovely in summer. A penance in winter.
Darning, and darning, and darning for My Lady Poverty. Darned sheets that scratch. Darned underwear that rubs, Holes on holes that WILL not mend! Clothing that is too hot in summer, not warm enough in the Monastery in winter. Worn bits on the knees of EVERYTHING. Sr Seamstress who regards you with a jaundiced eye when the tunic needs taking in, or letting out, or up, or down! Mea culpa.
Kissing the hem of the ten oldest in religion's habit in Refectory, reverently, with awe and true humility.
Placing the scapular, the Yoke of the Lord, every day with a willingness to embrace and rejoice in that Yoke.
Yes, He suffered. Our one day of bridals, crowns, rings and such like do not detract from all the other days of joy in the penitential aspects of the Holy Habit!

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IgnatiusofLoyola
[quote name='maximillion' timestamp='1319044039' post='2323744']
Re the above.
Oh those beautiful veils - that pull on your neck, rub on your head and are often too tight and hurt or too lose and fall off.
Bare feet. Lovely in summer. A penance in winter.
Darning, and darning, and darning for My Lady Poverty. Darned sheets that scratch. Darned underwear that rubs, Holes on holes that WILL not mend! Clothing that is too hot in summer, not warm enough in the Monastery in winter. Worn bits on the knees of EVERYTHING. Sr Seamstress who regards you with a jaundiced eye when the tunic needs taking in, or letting out, or up, or down! Mea culpa.
Kissing the hem of the ten oldest in religion's habit in Refectory, reverently, with awe and true humility.
Placing the scapular, the Yoke of the Lord, every day with a willingness to embrace and rejoice in that Yoke.
Yes, He suffered. Our one day of bridals, crowns, rings and such like do not detract from all the other days of joy in the penitential aspects of the Holy Habit!
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Vee--You made an excellent point above, and I had a comment composed in my head. But, I thought maximillion's post made a point not too different than the one I was going to make--and she said much better.

Vee--Are you sure you're not secretly a Passionist at heart? Even if the Community in Whitesville, KY does not appeal to you (although I personally like some of their customs very much), the Passionist community in Ellisville, MO is much more "hidden" and has customs such as bars in the chapel and parlor--note that's "bars" not a bar :beer: --and rising at midnight each nght for prayers, etc. Edited by IgnatiusofLoyola

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LaPetiteSoeur
[quote name='Queen'sDaughter' timestamp='1318991634' post='2323468']
The pics are lovely. It seems to me that the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary wear the gowns too, but I am not sure. Does anyone know?

Ignatius, of course you are right in what you said about discerners and gowns. Personally I would go to whatever order God wants regardless of such things, but at the same time I am very glad that they do use the symbolism of the dress, and later, the profession ring. I think that all women have a desire to make themselves beautiful for their beloved, and the wearing of the gown is a way to express the desire for internal beauty to please the Beloved.
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They do! I can't find the pictures, but I definitely had some at some point...

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Francis Clare
BTW, I though you'd like to know that Sr. John-Mark Maria, PCPA of Our Lady of Solitude Monastery outside of Phoenix will be making her first profession of vows on the feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe. YIPEE :dance5:

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MarysLittleFlower
I also would not reject an order because they don't have the wedding gowns, wedding rings, etc, it's just beautiful symbolism and if they do have it, that's just another thing to look forward to. If they dont, then that's okay. It's not the most important part, - the most important part is the spiritual reality.

I also love the orders where they wear the crown of thorns... that's beautiful also! it shows that the religious can share in the Passion. Edited by MarysLittleFlower

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OnlySunshine
I was thrilled when I learned that the RSMs receive wedding rings when they profess their vows. I forget whether it's temporary or perpetual profession. Anyway, it's not a deal breaker for me. I was perfectly set on entering the Carmelites DCJ -- who do not wear wedding rings (never have either). I just love the tradition. :love:

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InPersonaChriste
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Mademoiselle Anne-Marie Murphy (adorers of the Royal Heart of Jesus)


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Now Sister Anne Marie of the Immaculate Conception Edited by InPersonaChriste

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