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#1 Hasan

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:32 PM

I'm going to help start a children's camp in Bosnia this summer. I have some questions

1-Does anyone have any experience running a camp for kids? If so, do you have any advice?

2-The group I'm with got a $10,000 grant. While it is a very generous sum we can always do more. We're trying to solicit philanthropic corporations. Does anyone have any experience with this? If so, what advice do you have? Does anyone know of any corporations that are big on philanthropy?

I'm obviously doing my own research as well. I'm looking at IBM, Nike (we can always use soccer balls), Coka-Cola, Wal-Mart et cetera. But I'm just seeing what people can think of to see if any leads come up that I haven't thought of.








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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:52 AM

Why did you chose Bosnia?

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:09 AM

Why did you chose Bosnia?


Well one of the people in the group is from Bosnia so we'd have that as a bonus. I don't know exactly why Bosnia was chosen as opposed to any other country. I wasn't involved at the time.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:35 AM

Well one of the people in the group is from Bosnia so we'd have that as a bonus. I don't know exactly why Bosnia was chosen as opposed to any other country. I wasn't involved at the time.


I just thought it might be quite the challenge in Bosia because of the politics involved.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:48 AM

I just thought it might be quite the challenge in Bosia because of the politics involved.


Yeah. Bosnia's political situation is awful.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:04 AM

Has there ever been a time when the political situation in Bosnia hasn't been awful?

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:22 AM

I was a summer camp counselor for many years. The biggest problem I had with the kids is over stimulation. They are doing new stuff, they get very excited, and they get tired. Make sure you schedule in down time for them.

We had lots of Bosnian neighbors in St. Pete. A group there did lots of refugee sponsorships and we lived in the poor part of town where refugees end up. I miss the smell of the neighbors cooking stuffed onions.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:27 AM

Has there ever been a time when the political situation in Bosnia hasn't been awful?


Well bosnia is a fairly new country.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:50 AM

Something else to know about working with kids: they're kids, and you need to treat them like it. I find it's generally not wise to act as though you expect to be respected, but instead to simply be yourself and respect them. I'm not saying you'd necessarily do this to a kid in person, but your way of speaking in many threads is very forward, blunt, opinionated, and a bit lacking in empathy. Kids in general are much more sensitive to this than many adults who have just learned how to deal with it. At least, that's my experience with teaching 4th graders.

I mean no offense to you Hasan, since you obviously don't mean harm even when you do such things here, but children can be very sensitive, especially when compared to adults.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:24 PM

Has there ever been a time when the political situation in Bosnia hasn't been awful?


Not since the early 90's

I was a summer camp counselor for many years. The biggest problem I had with the kids is over stimulation. They are doing new stuff, they get very excited, and they get tired. Make sure you schedule in down time for them.

We had lots of Bosnian neighbors in St. Pete. A group there did lots of refugee sponsorships and we lived in the poor part of town where refugees end up. I miss the smell of the neighbors cooking stuffed onions.


This is a good point. These aren't little, little kids. Like 10-13 years old. But they're still kids.

Well bosnia is a fairly new country.


The current state of Bosnia is fairly new. But Bosnia as a political/cultural entity goes back to the middle ages.

Something else to know about working with kids: they're kids, and you need to treat them like it. I find it's generally not wise to act as though you expect to be respected, but instead to simply be yourself and respect them. I'm not saying you'd necessarily do this to a kid in person, but your way of speaking in many threads is very forward, blunt, opinionated, and a bit lacking in empathy. Kids in general are much more sensitive to this than many adults who have just learned how to deal with it. At least, that's my experience with teaching 4th graders.

I mean no offense to you Hasan, since you obviously don't mean harm even when you do such things here, but children can be very sensitive, especially when compared to adults.


No offense taken. I know what you mean. I'm actually usually good with kids.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:09 PM

Follow the grant writing pattern.
1. Identify a problem . Cultural misunderstandings need healing? Bosnian kids getting into trouble over summer?
2. Offer the solution -- why your solution will solve the problem, and why YOU are the people who can best execute the solution
3. Request your reader become a partner with you in making this solution happen - How They Can Help
4. Discuss expected outcomes (what will be the situation if the project is funded and goes forward, what will happen if it is NOT funded) and what data will show you've been successful. How many kids reached, answers they'll give you on pre and post camp surveys etc.
5. Close with reiteration of call-to-action (join us, do this, help us, etc.) and gratitude

You should consider talking to some multinational law firms. They fund projects like this.

Honestly, if I was going to set up a summer camp in Bosnia, my biggest worry would be the corruption. It can get expensive, fast. Not to mention demoralizing.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:57 PM

Follow the grant writing pattern.
1. Identify a problem . Cultural misunderstandings need healing? Bosnian kids getting into trouble over summer?
2. Offer the solution -- why your solution will solve the problem, and why YOU are the people who can best execute the solution
3. Request your reader become a partner with you in making this solution happen - How They Can Help
4. Discuss expected outcomes (what will be the situation if the project is funded and goes forward, what will happen if it is NOT funded) and what data will show you've been successful. How many kids reached, answers they'll give you on pre and post camp surveys etc.
5. Close with reiteration of call-to-action (join us, do this, help us, etc.) and gratitude

You should consider talking to some multinational law firms. They fund projects like this.

Honestly, if I was going to set up a summer camp in Bosnia, my biggest worry would be the corruption. It can get expensive, fast. Not to mention demoralizing.


True, however we are not setting up a summer camp in the normal sense (like a fixed, landed property with stuff on it)



THE PROJECT:
VOICE Bosnia will create a yearlong program consisting of a summer camp followed by monthly workshops, which will be facilitated by local community mentors. These local mentors, ages 17-20, who will serve as counselors and help lead monthly workshops will serve as a resource for program participants and further integrate the program into the community. We believe that a peaceful relationship rooted in understanding and compassion must be built on more than mere discussion: therefore, this project aims to create an environment for youth to form relationship bound by experience. Participants in the program will have the opportunity to meet local politicians, visit religious sites, meet with various religious representatives and participate in activities, which promote unity, reflection and activism. The program will allow Roman Catholic, Russian Orthodox, Muslim and Roma youth to develop the skills necessary to be successful and accepting members of their community.

We're just doing stuff with the kids around town and we're bringing stuff with us from North Carolina. That's not to say that there isn't corruption for us to encounter, but we're trying to minimize the opportunity for it as much as possible. Thanks for the grant writing pattern. I'll mostly be calling but it's a good format to use in articulating the request.