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[Socrates]

I've gotten back to rantin' and ravin' about the Constitution, the HHS Mandate, those damned liberals, and much more in my blog Gregorian Rants.

Y'all are welcome to sign in to comment, criticize, tear my opinions apart - just as long as it's kept charitable and on-topic.

Thanks.

[Adrestia]

:waves:

[dominicansoul]

following...

[kujo]

I've gotten back to rantin' and ravin' about the Constitution, the HHS Mandate, those damned liberals, and much more in my blog Gregorian Rants.

Y'all are welcome to sign in to comment, criticize, tear my opinions apart - just as long as it's kept charitable and on-topic.

Thanks.

Miss you around here. No one calls me an idiot-liberal-pansy quite like you.

[Amppax]

Miss you around here. No one calls me an idiot-liberal-pansy quite like you.

I second this. There is no one here with whom I have more fun disagreeing than you Soc! And there is absolutely no one else I'd rather pit against our Hassanic overlord, mainly because watching you to go at it is such fun.

[Winchester]

You should return until your conversion to anarcho-Catholicism is complete.

[Socrates]

Miss you around here. No one calls me an idiot-liberal-pansy quite like you.

Idiot-liberal-pansy? Nah, I think of you more as a cute kid playing with your own poo.

You should return until your conversion to anarcho-Catholicism is complete.

Nah, I prefer being an Evil Statist Oppressor.

Kind of like the Pope. I want my own special funny hat.

[Winchester]

Nah, I prefer being an Evil Statist Oppressor.

Kind of like the Pope. I want my own special funny hat.

You've already made arguments against statism. All that's lacking is one or two books by Rothbard.

Read Tom Woods, yet?

[mortify]

Guess just about anyone these days feels they have to blog

[elizabeth09]

Just that way here at my house.

[Socrates]

You've already made arguments against statism. All that's lacking is one or two books by Rothbard.

Read Tom Woods, yet?

Actually, I've read and own at least five books by Dr. Woods. He has good arguments with regards to economics and Constitutional issues. But he's a conservative-libertarian, not an anarchist.

As you can probably surmise, my "statist oppressor" remarks were tongue-and-cheek. I'm a conservative who believes in limited government, and opposes all-encompassing "statism," but anarchism remains nonsense. Just because an opposite form of lunacy (socialistic statism) is in power does not make anarchism any less lunacy.

The reality is that you can't have a functioning free market without some kind of state to protect property rights. Otherwise, it's the law of the jungle. Without some kind of state to enforce rule of law, you cannot have any form of society or commerce higher than primitive tribalism.

Anarcho-capitalism is fairies and unicorns fantasy. One may as well waste one's time and energy discussing and debating whether people should be governed by magical flying unicorns. It would have as much relation to reality.

And as anarchism is blatantly contrary to both Scripture and 2000 years of Catholic teaching, "anarcho-Catholicism" is just as nonsensical as "Communisto-Catholicism."

[Winchester]

Anarchism is nothing more than voluntary society. How is that contrary to scripture?

[Anomaly]

Anarchism is nothing more than voluntary society. How is that contrary to scripture?

1 Peter 2
¹³ Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, ¹⁴ or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. ¹⁵ For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. ¹⁶ Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. ¹⁷ Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.

Edited by Anomaly, 02 May 2012 - 12:38 PM.

[Winchester]

1 Peter 2
¹³ Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, ¹⁴ or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. ¹⁵ For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. ¹⁶ Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. ¹⁷ Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.

Authority is an important word. No one has authority to command immorality. I needn't obey any law which has not the character of justice.

That passage does not set a requirement to have a state, merely that one should obey "all human authority". See above restriction regarding authority. So long as I do not use my freedom as a cover for evil, I am to live as a free person. We are clearly free to set up voluntary societies. If that passage prescribed the existence of a state, anyone living outside of a state would be a sin. You couldn't explore. You would have to fly under the flag of a nation on the high seas, or risk your immortal soul.

The writer of that passage died whilst not submitting to a human power. Apparently, he did not intend for us to submit to mere power, but only to authority.

[Winchester]

http://www.coss.fsu....aneous-1989.pdf

[USAirwaysIHS]

http://www.coss.fsu....aneous-1989.pdf

I would rather be castrated by Michael J. Fox than click on a link with those three letters in it.

[fides' Jack]

I would rather be castrated by Michael J. Fox than click on a link with those three letters in it.

You mean edu?

[Hasan]

You mean edu?

fsu

[FuturePriest387]

Miss you around here. No one calls me an idiot-liberal-pansy quite like you.

I'm sorry. I've tried, but I just can't compete. I'll do my best in his absence, though.

[Winchester]

I would rather be castrated by Michael J. Fox than click on a link with those three letters in it.

You should get a virus protection program. Then you could open them without worry.

Or is this really some bizarre prejudice against FSU?