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[kujo]

Are there any of ya'll out there? I'm not talking about the people who go see the multi-million dollar cinematic recreations of comic book lore that grace our screens each summer. I'm talking about the geeks who go buy their books every Wednesday, either at a comic shop or from some website that allows you to put them onto your iPad or whatever.

I've been reading comics my whole life. I'm mostly a DC guy, though I've intermittently read Spidey and Captain America books. Truthfully, I read every single frigin' Bat-book out there!

Come on! Am I the only one?!??!

[havok579257]

Are there any of ya'll out there? I'm not talking about the people who go see the multi-million dollar cinematic recreations of comic book lore that grace our screens each summer. I'm talking about the geeks who go buy their books every Wednesday, either at a comic shop or from some website that allows you to put them onto your iPad or whatever.

I've been reading comics my whole life. I'm mostly a DC guy, though I've intermittently read Spidey and Captain America books. Truthfully, I read every single frigin' Bat-book out there!

Come on! Am I the only one?!??!

i used to be a massive comic booknerd. i have hundreads of books up in my closet. Although for the most part i am done buy comics. The reaso is because there are absolutly no consequences in comics. DCconsistanly reboots their line nothing you read matters because in a few years they will just do a reboot. So in the end, the time and money you invested in them means nothing because those stories never took place. Marvel on the other hand just rectons everything. They write a storyline. New writer comes inand rectons what just happened.

Also the absolute lack of any charecter every staying dead gets on me to much. No major charecter will stay dead or ever change from the status quo because the status quo sells books. Both companies are to afraid to do anything new or different. DC killed off Superman but brought him back. They broke Batman's back but heal it through magic which makes no sense considering Batman and magic don't go together. They killed off Batman and had Johnsonville brat Grayson take over but quickly reverted to the status quo by saying Batman never died by being burnt to a crisp with lazers but was instead transported back in time. He then returned and staus quo is up held. Captain America is killed... oh wait he just went back in time and now he;s back. Why do I have any emotional investment in any of these charecters if I know of they die they will just come back to life.

In the end the final booksI was reading were the minor level charecters who if killed off would not necessarily be brought back to life. Like Nova in the marvel universe. He was a D level charecter who they revamped intoa B level charecter but who's stories were off earth and he was never one of the major guys. I read him and the Guardians of the Galaxy along with all the space epics of the lesser know charecters. In the end Nova was killed off in a great storyline ending and still remains that way today...dead. So barring him coming back, I probobly won't get back into comics again. For a while I was into Walking Dead and DC's Vertigo line because those had charecters whowere not A list and if they died,they stayed dead. Although the storylines were incrediblly good, the excessive use of God's name in vain and sexuality turned me off from the books.

[kujo]

Nova is no longer dead, and is currently involved in the Avengers v.s. X-men storyline.

[kujo]

I see your point, though. I guess I just like the stories. They are entirely fictional, so it's not like they ever really "happen" anyway. So what if things change, or revert? It's just stories, and if they're entertaining, great! The characters can be amesome, and when the writers and artists are amazing--as is currently the case with the Batman comic, under the direction of Scott Snyder and ink of Greg Capullo.

[brianthephysicist]

havok, I completely see your point and some days I feel that way about the comics, but more often I agree with what kujo says about just liking the stories. It's a storytelling technique, think of them as our modern day myths. You take a character that people know a fair amount about and put him/her into a new situation and you can discover something deeper.

I originally got into comic books because my brother would buy them and it was fun to read. After I moved out of my parents house, they weren't just lying around anymore and I didn't feel like paying all that money for them so I've since stopped reading them.

havok's right to also point out the excessive sexuality of the books. Comic books were like my "gateway drug" into pornography. I don't think I'll ever go back unless that changes. Maybe some people can handle it, but I sure can't. I mean, yes, I miss the characters and the stories, but I know it would do me more harm than good.

[kujo]

The sexual content hasn't abated, but to be honest--and this is just me-- I don't find cartoon women, no matter how vivacious, sexually attractive. They're fake, for starters. And they're always gigantic-chested, narrow waisted femme fatale types. Oh, and they're cartoons.

But that's me. I recognize that others have different struggles.

Hey, Havok. What books did you read before? You say you got a bunch in your attic. They might be worth something now.

[havok579257]

Nova is no longer dead, and is currently involved in the Avengers v.s. X-men storyline.

i am pretty sure its a different nova, no richard rider. nova is like dcs green lanterns. there are more thanone.

[havok579257]

The sexual content hasn't abated, but to be honest--and this is just me-- I don't find cartoon women, no matter how vivacious, sexually attractive. They're fake, for starters. And they're always gigantic-chested, narrow waisted femme fatale types. Oh, and they're cartoons.

But that's me. I recognize that others have different struggles.

Hey, Havok. What books did you read before? You say you got a bunch in your attic. They might be worth something now.

i have like 200 issues of Wolverine. Pretty much all of volume 2 and specials. I have all X-men past issue 120 or so. I have Unncanny X-men, throught the years, probobly around 150 issues ranging from issues 114 or so to 300's. I have tons of Cable, X-Factor, Avengers, some Captai America and Thor, Thunderbolts, the MC2 line, Marvels crossovers like House of M, Annihilation War and so on. The majority of my books are x-related books. I have some old ones.


The nudity and language I refer to was more towards DC's Vertigo line and Walking Dead. In DC's Fables there are charecters completely nakes in it. Full frontal. Also in walking Dead they show the beginning and after of an assault/rape. They go way, way to far in these books. Not to mention the excessive language with God's name in it.

[ContemporaryCaflicCrusader]

Used to be. My faves were Daredevil, Hulk, Spidey, X-men, and The Green Lantern. my parents told me a few years ago when I was 18 to stop buying comics. So I can get them free on Free comic book day, borrow them from my more nerdy comic friends or just read them at the newstand. I watch the movies. I play heroclix and heroclix online, I only kept about 15 of my 80 or so comics my folks made me get rid of them as a consequence to my last English test ever ironicly. Oh and Dilbert even my parents are razzle dazzle with that one.

[kujo]

i have like 200 issues of Wolverine. Pretty much all of volume 2 and specials. I have all X-men past issue 120 or so. I have Unncanny X-men, throught the years, probobly around 150 issues ranging from issues 114 or so to 300's. I have tons of Cable, X-Factor, Avengers, some Captai America and Thor, Thunderbolts, the MC2 line, Marvels crossovers like House of M, Annihilation War and so on. The majority of my books are x-related books. I have some old ones.


The nudity and language I refer to was more towards DC's Vertigo line and Walking Dead. In DC's Fables there are charecters completely nakes in it. Full frontal. Also in walking Dead they show the beginning and after of an assault/rape. They go way, way to far in these books. Not to mention the excessive language with God's name in it.

I've never been much of an X reader. I dunno...those characters always seemed so trite to me.

Yeah, Walking Dead is pretty crazy. I just read through the whole thing in the last year or so and man, the Governor stuff is really out of control. I dunno if you watch the show, but they're doing the prison/Governor storyline this season. I can't imagine how they're going to depict that stuff. But I do hope they make Michonne as bad-arse as she is in the books!

[kujo]

Used to be. My faves were Daredevil, Hulk, Spidey, X-men, and The Green Lantern. my parents told me a few years ago when I was 18 to stop buying comics. So I can get them free on Free comic book day, borrow them from my more nerdy comic friends or just read them at the newstand. I watch the movies. I play heroclix and heroclix online, I only kept about 15 of my 80 or so comics my folks made me get rid of them as a consequence to my last English test ever ironicly. Oh and Dilbert even my parents are razzle dazzle with that one.

You don't have to listen to your parents about this if you don't want

Oh, and Green Lantern FTW! Always been a favorite of mine. Since the New 52 reboot last summer, they've had Sinestro back in green! The story has been phenomenal, and the art is stupid good! Geoff Johns is the man!

[arfink]

The sexual content hasn't abated, but to be honest--and this is just me-- I don't find cartoon women, no matter how vivacious, sexually attractive. They're fake, for starters. And they're always gigantic-chested, narrow waisted femme fatale types. Oh, and they're cartoons.

But that's me. I recognize that others have different struggles.

Hey, Havok. What books did you read before? You say you got a bunch in your attic. They might be worth something now.

Oh yes, and the "broke back" effect is very prominent in comics. Once you see that part you can't help but view the comicbook women as somehow disfigured.

Edited by arfink, 16 May 2012 - 10:18 AM.

[kujo]

Oh yes, and the "broke back" effect is very prominent in comics. Once you see that part you can't help but view the comicbook women as somehow disfigured.

???

The "broke back" effect?

[arfink]

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The "broke back" effect?

Your back cannot physically attain that pose without serious spinal injury. You know, so you can show off your chest AND butt in the same shot. And yet female characters in comic books are ALWAYS doing that. They're broken-backed mutants.

[kujo]

Oh. I thought "broke back" was a reference to the movie about gay cowboys and how some folks think that male characters in comic books are gay or gayish.

[BigJon16]

Ive been picking up a bunch of the "New 52" that DC has been putting out. Some are pretty razzle dazzle, and I look forward to continuing to read them.

[Innocent]

I started reading comic books with The Phantom, Mandrake, Rip Kirby, Garth, Tarzan and Korak.

I encountered DC and Marvel much later.

And at around the same time I discovered manga.

I don't find as much time to read comics now as before, but I try to fit in a bit of comics reading when I have the time.

The comic I read recently was Lone Wolf And Cub (I suppose this falls into the category of manga.)

[Totus Tuus]

My best friend of 17 years is a huge comic book nerd (she reads them, writes them, illustrates them). She's single, artistic, and to top off, she's getting her degree in computer gaming.

I, on the other hand, am a married, pregnant woman with a degree in Classical languages.

HOW I ask you people, do I say something intelligent about this subject to engage her when I have never read a comic in my life (except at the hundreds of sleep-overs I've had with her, when doing so really wasn't of my own volition...)

(this is a question I've been seeking the answer to for no less than 17 years.)

Edited by Totus Tuus, 16 May 2012 - 10:45 PM.

[kujo]

My best friend of 17 years is a huge comic book nerd (she reads them, writes them, illustrates them). She's single, artistic, and to top off, she's getting her degree in computer gaming.

I, on the other hand, am a married, pregnant woman with a degree in Classical languages.

HOW I ask you people, do I say something intelligent about this subject to engage her when I have never read a comic in my life (except at the hundreds of sleep-overs I've had with her, when doing so really wasn't of my own volition...)

(this is a question I've been seeking the answer to for no less than 17 years.)

You could inquire as to her opinion of the depiction of women.