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[blacksheep]

Okay. For starters this movie was not what I expected. It was visually amesome..the story a bit muddled and confusing, but what origin story isn't. Overall it was entertaining, i liked the characters, the actors were great, the creatures were razzle dazzle, but I wish it was more horrific. I wanted something equal or greater to the terror in alien, at least that was what I was expecting but it never came to that. Instead it was more of a sci fi action epic. Probably won't see it a third time.

[Papist]

I plan to see it. I prefer a good story over horror and effects. I think you are saying it is a very good story. Am I right?

[blacksheep]

I plan to see it. I prefer a good story over horror and effects. I think you are saying it is a very good story. Am I right?

The story was good. Very bizzare look at the origin of the human race. Also some aspects of truth and faith that I liked.

[Papist]

OK. Thanks. I need to know no more.

[blacksheep]

(spoilers )so the story is...two archeologist discover unique patterns found in every ancient living culture. Pattens that suggest being visiting us from a galaxy light years away. This pattern is then found out to be true, where on one moon is a somewhat livable atmosphere. There is where our adventure begins. There is where the dark truth of our creators is found out and so the origin of man and alien...is revealed.

Edited by blacksheep, 11 June 2012 - 12:24 PM.

[Hubertus]

(Spoilers? I'll try to keep it general but this is my disclaimer)


Just watched it last night. I was a bit annoyed by the main character to be honest, although it wasn't too obvious who the main character was until about the second half of the movie. In the other Alien movies the main character seemed to be much stronger and more determined; this person was just way too whiny.

The rest of it was alright, but like you said a bit muddled. The purpose of the discovered territory was only revealed in a short dialogue with a side character, so that was annoying.. And it was never really clear exactly what role the humanoid race had in us, i.e. how significant they were..

And the blatant stupidity of some of the characters in survival situations was.. well.. pretty blatant.

Definitely liked the visuals and effects, though.

Overall I did enjoy the movie, just because it was sci-fi enough for me.

[ContemporaryCaflicCrusader]

I liked it. It was very good all around. Special effects were amazing. Michael Fassbender is gonna get an academy award if not at least a nomination for his terrific acting. It was also good to see the main character did have unshakable faith in Jesus throughout the entire film.

[Laudate_Dominum]

I liked it. It was very good all around. Special effects were amazing. Michael Fassbender is gonna get an academy award if not at least a nomination for his terrific acting. It was also good to see the main character did have unshakable faith in Jesus throughout the entire film.

Wait, what? There's something about Jesus in this movie?

Btw, I'm totally reading the spoilers in this thread. Might as well go read some detailed reviews now.

[ContemporaryCaflicCrusader]

Wait, what? There's something about Jesus in this movie?

Btw, I'm totally reading the spoilers in this thread. Might as well go read some detailed reviews now.

The main character has a cross necklace the whole movie. She has trouble parting with it when she's been told it's possible it's been contaminated with some terrible space disease. Until the last scene of the movie where she demands to have her cross back from David the android, who muttered "You still believe after all this?" and she quietly nodded yes. A cross is an indirect reference to Jesus, a crusifix would've been better but this is modern hollywood.

[BG45]

I promised Papist I'd post my thoughts on it, so here they are. Worthy to be a prequel to the Alien films. I didn't mind the lack of gore, because as I left the theater, I found myself not hopped up on gore and such but contemplative. This film is philosophy disguised as a thriller.

[Papist]

I saw it yesterday. Though I liked the story overall, I did not like the theme that humans were created by the non-divine. I kept telling myself, this is sci-fi, this is sci-fi, this is sci-fi, this is sci-fi, this is sci-fi, ...However there was a key moment when the main character woman stated, "Who created them?" referring the who created the 'engineers' that created mankind. I was thinking the same question.

There are things in the movie that was not clear. Like the beginning when the 'engineer' drinks that stuff. Was he on Earth and that is how mankind was created? Remember, he fell into the water and dissolved including his DNA strains, then you see DNA strains starting to self-repair. It made wonder if this was to be the origins of life/evolution.

And I thought the 'engineer' was supposed to be sitting in the chair when the alien popped out of him. This is how and where he was when they found him in Alien.

Definitely left open for a follow up movie.

[Laudate_Dominum]

I hope it comes out on amazon or netflix soon.

[Papist]

I think it would be a great movie to watch followed with discussion at the next PM meet-up.

[BG45]

I can justify part of the engineer chair thing. Be warned, the following contains both nerdiness and spoilers:

Prometheus took place on LV-223, in Aliens, the sequel to Alien, we established that Nostromo visited LV-426. So despite pulling on the iconic shot, it's apparently a different one...meaning someone (Engineer wise) was nuts to be carrying Xenomorphs at a different point I guess?

I agree on your issues and liking the "who made them?" comment. I also loved how the heroine's lover tried to convince her, once they found the Engineers, it was time to take off her father's Cross and she refused. Then at the end, before she does anything to help David, "Where's my Cross?"

Edit: Also, David said there were other ships, not just the one they took. If only they had programmed an auto-pilot or something on one to take it to Earth with a note inside, "Went to talk to our creators, have some amesome technology - Shaw".

Edited by BG45, 14 June 2012 - 02:03 PM.

[Kia ora]

some thoughts:

the movie took place on christmas.

who was associated with mary and had a miracle birth of her own? elizabeth.

main character is called elizabeth shaw. she has a miracle birth. a very twisted version of the nativity. elizabeth was unable to have kids remember until she got impregnated by the engineers in a roundabout way, who are 'god'.

who announces the pregnancy in the bible? an angel. but here...david, the robot.

some more christian parallels. the sacrifice of the pilots. before they crash into the ship, the three raise their arms like the three on the cross.

Edited by Kia ora, 14 June 2012 - 11:02 PM.

[Jesus_lol]

I saw it yesterday. Though I liked the story overall, I did not like the theme that humans were created by the non-divine. I kept telling myself, this is sci-fi, this is sci-fi, this is sci-fi, this is sci-fi, this is sci-fi, ...However there was a key moment when the main character woman stated, "Who created them?" referring the who created the 'engineers' that created mankind. I was thinking the same question.

There are things in the movie that was not clear. Like the beginning when the 'engineer' drinks that stuff. Was he on Earth and that is how mankind was created? Remember, he fell into the water and dissolved including his DNA strains, then you see DNA strains starting to self-repair. It made wonder if this was to be the origins of life/evolution.

And I thought the 'engineer' was supposed to be sitting in the chair when the alien popped out of him. This is how and where he was when they found him in Alien.

Definitely left open for a follow up movie.

Also, that "space jockey" in Alien was found in one of their large crescent moon ships, not in that small escape pod. And BG already noted it was indeed an entirely different planet.

But as it said at the end, there are more of those engineers, and at one point i guess they find out about the Aliens and try using them as weapons, which is why you see them being transported (very similarly to the rows of bio weapon in prometheus) in the ship on lv426.

The Alien takes on some of the physical qualities of what it is impregnated into(see the dog/cow one in Alien 3) which is why it looks different, more unevolved in its first iteration, grown inside an engineer instead of a human.

Im hopeing the next movie goes all out with horror, Alien style.

[r2Dtoo]

I've never much been a fan of the Alien series. I always thought they were more of a gore-fest than an actual horror franchise. Would yall say that this movie is pretty much more of the same from the Alien movies, or is a little different.

[maximillion]

Here's my question.

What's with the Wayland connection?
Wayland is the name of the old guy who is the 'father' of the robot.

Wayland and Wayland Industries are behind the AVP film.........
Am I seeing too much into this, is there really a connection and if so what?

TBH, I thought Prometheus was at times very close to being almost a remake of Alien, with a few extras thrown in.

I thought the bit at the beginning when the 'man' dissolved was supposed to be how DNA got in the primordial soup...and hence our beginning, evolutionary style.

Final thought. How about a mash up the whole Aliens movies with , say, Lost. Or am I mixing my metaphors?

[Jesus_lol]

Here's my question.

What's with the Wayland connection?
Wayland is the name of the old guy who is the 'father' of the robot.

Wayland and Wayland Industries are behind the AVP film.........
Am I seeing too much into this, is there really a connection and if so what?

TBH, I thought Prometheus was at times very close to being almost a remake of Alien, with a few extras thrown in.

I thought the bit at the beginning when the 'man' dissolved was supposed to be how DNA got in the primordial soup...and hence our beginning, evolutionary style.

Final thought. How about a mash up the whole Aliens movies with , say, Lost. Or am I mixing my metaphors?

it isnt mentioned in Alien, they just call it "the company", but you see "weyland corporation" on some of their gear, and in the later movies(dont ask about AVP it doesnt count) Weyland corporation is what is financing the ships.

there are some parallels between Alien and Prometheus, but only really basic plot themes, and most of the alien movies are similar like that.

as for a mash up, one of the main writers for Prometheus was a writer for Lost, hence the somewhat "wait for the next episode" feel and lack of explanation in prometheus(which i thought sucked. if i was picking people to write a movie that explains questions people have been asking for 33 years, the writers from Lost would be the last on that list.)

[Brother Adam]