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Discalced Carmelite Nuns In Mirna Pec, Slovenia - 1990 Carmel


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I found these beautiful photos from Mirna Pec Carmel last May 21, 2013 and send it to my friends via email.

 

Mirna Pec Carmel in Slovenia is a foundation of Kirk Edge Carmel and canonically erected in 1998.  Like Kirk Edge Carmel, they follow the 1990 Rule and Constitutions approved for the Discalced Carmelite Nuns.  On the other hand, Sora Carmel, also in Slovenia opted for the 1991 Rule and Constitutions approved for the Discalced Carmelite Nuns.  There are only two Carmels in Slovenia.

 

Though this Carmel is a daughterhouse of an English Carmel, the arrangement of the veil and toque is very similar to German or East European Carmels; very different from Kirk Edge Carmel.

 

Their interpretation of the double grille is very interesting.

 

 

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Thank you for sharing these lovely photos

 

Your welcome!

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You can download the actual photos if you google them.  Type "Karmel Mirna Pec"

 

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They do, right? :saint2:

 

It could be that they are not used to being photographed.  This Carmel is really conservative and I saw one photos from this Carmel with her veiled pulled down to her mouth.  I tried finding it but its no longer in google.

 

I love their habit, its wool, I think and they wear two-sets of veil.  One veil is tucked under the scapular and another one, the "communion veil" on top.  The communion veil is folded up but it can be easily be pulled down to cover the face.

 

The arrangement of the veil is very similar to one to two Carmels in Germany.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RULE AND CONSTITUTIONS OF THE DISCALCED NUNS OF THE ORDER OF THE MOST BLESSED VIRGIN MARY OF MOUNT CARMEL     for the monasteries of Discalced Carmelites (according to Canon 615) accommodated to Vatican Council II and to the current canonical laws according to the norms given by His Holiness John Paul II on the 15th of October 1984 Promulgated by the same Supreme Pontiff on the 8th, December 1990 Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception   1990    

 

50. 1. - They shall fast everyday, except Sunday, from the Feast of the Exaltation of the Cross in September, that is, from the very day itself, until the Feast of the Resurrection.  They shall never eat meat, except through necessity, as the Rule commands.

 

51. 2. - On the Fasts of the Church, and every Friday of the year, except from Easter to Pentecost, the use of eggs and dairy products in the refectory is forbidden.  The Prioress may, however, give dispensation in this matter in the case of sick and those who are in need.

(And those to whom fist is harmful; but we declare that it is not our intention to take away the Bull of the Crusade where it is enforced.)

 

52. 3. - The habit is to be of coarse serge or woolen cloth of brown color, undyed.  They are to use as little material as possible in making the habit.  The sleeves shall be narrow, and the same width top and bottom, without pleats.  The habit is to be of equal length all around and should reach to the feet.  The scapular is to be of the same material and about three inches shorter than the habit.  The choir mantle is to be of serge also, but white in color, and equal to the scapular in length.  For this mantle as little cloth as possible should be used in order to avoid superfluity.  The scapular is to be worn over the toque.  The toque is to be made of coarse linen, without pleats.  The tunics and sheets are also to be made of woolen serge.  The sandals are to be made of hemp; and the stockings,  which for decency are worn, should be of woolen or coarse cloth, or something similar.  The pillow cases are likewise to be of woolen serge and in case of necessity, linen.  The beds are to be without mattresses, but with a sack filled with straw, for experience has proved that this is sufficient even for the weak and infirm.

 

(The beds are to be without curtains or hangings, but in case of necessity, there may be a screen of matting of coarse cloth before the door, provided it is poor.)

 

53. 4. - Each Sister shall have a separate bed.  They are not to use carpets, (nor cushion) except for the Church.  All these things are distinctive to our Order and must be observed.  They are mentioned in detail lest relaxation should ever cause us to forget what our obligation is as Religious. 

 

54. 5. - There should never be any addition of color either in clothing or bed covering, even though it be something as small as band.   They should never wear fur-lined garments, but in case of infirmity, they may use extra garment of the same coarse woolen material.

 

55. 6. - They should keep their hair cut in order not to lose time in combing it.  They are not to use mirrors, nor any other curious thing, but they are to live in complete self-forgetfulness.

 

Note: Those texts inside the parenthesis are norms which have fallen to disuse and no longer have juridical value.

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RULE AND CONSTITUTIONS

 

OF THE

 

DISCALCED NUNS

 

OF THE

 

ORDER OF OUR BLESSED LADY OF

 

MOUNT CARMEL

 

 

 

1928

 

 

 

CHAPTER VIII

 

 

ON THE FAST AND CLOTHING

 

66. From the Feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross in September until Easter Sunday, the Sisters are to fast except on Sundays, Christmas Day and the three following days, New Year’s Day, the Feast of the Epiphany, and the Feast of our holy Mother, St. Teresa of Jesus, and of St. John of the Cross.  They are never to eat meat, except through necessity, and in the cases mentioned in the Rule.

 

67.  On Fasts of the Church, and every Friday of the year, except from Easter to Pentecost, we forbid the use of eggs and white-meats in the refectory.  The Prioress can, however, dispense in this mater in the case of the sick and of those to whom fish is injurious for other reasons, and then those who are permitted to take eggs and white-meats shall eat out of the refectory or apart from the others.

 

68.  For the Habit the Nuns are to use a coarse cloth called Serge, of a brown colour.

 

69.  The Habit is to be as spare as possible; as also the sleeves, which are to be of the same width top and bottom and without pleats.  The Habit is to be of equal length all around, and should reach to the feet.

70.  The Scapular is to be of the same material, and about three inches shorter than the Habit.

 

71.  The Choir-mantle also is to be of serge, but white, and equal to the Scapular in length.  For this mantle as little cloth as possible should be used in order to avoid superfluity.

 

72.   The Scapular is to be worn over the coif.  The coif is to be made of coarse linen, without pleats.

 

73.  The tunics and sheets are also to be made of serge.

 

74.  The sandals are to be made of hemp; and the stockings, which for decency are worn, of coarse linen, woollen yarn.

 

75.   The pillow cases are likewise to be wollen, and in case of necessity, linen.

 

76.  The beds are to be without mattresses, but with palliase only, for it is found by experience that this is sufficient even for the weak and infirm.

 

77.  The beds are to be without curtains or hangings; but, in case of necessity, a screen of matting or coarse cloth, or of some other similar material of small value may be used, with the permission of the Prioress.

 

78.  Each Sister shall have her bed separate.  They are not to use carpets, curtains, or cushions, except for the church, as things are not becoming for Religious.

 

79.  All these points belong to the observance of the Order; they are distinctive features of it and ought to be observed as such.  They are here mentioned in detail lest relaxation should even cause these things to be forgotten which are of obligation in our Order.

 

80.  The Habits and bed-coverlets are to be alike brown, without least addition of any other colour.  They are not to wear fur-lined garments, but in case of infirmity they may use extra woolen under-garment.  They are to keep their hair cut, in order not to lose time in dressing it.

 

81.  They are not to use looking-glasses, nor are they to keep any curious object, but are to live in complete self-contempt.

 

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RULE

AND

CONSTITUTIONS

OF THE

DISCALCED NUNS OF THE

ORDER OF THE MOST BLESSED

VIRGIN MARY OF MOUNT CARMEL

 

 

for the monasteries of Discalced Carmelites

(according to Canon 615)

accommodated to Vatican Council II

and to the current canonical laws

according to the norms given by

His Holiness John Paul II

on the 15th of October 1984

Promulgated by the same Supreme Pontiff

on the 8th, December 1990

Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception

 

1990

 

CHAPTER VIII

 

ON THE FAST AND CLOTHING

 

 

50. 1. - They shall fast everyday, except Sunday, from the Feast of the Exaltation of the Cross in September, that is, from the very day itself, until the Feast of the Resurrection.  They shall never eat meat, except through necessity, as the Rule commands.

 

51. 2. - On the Fasts of the Church, and every Friday of the year, except from Easter to Pentecost, the use of eggs and dairy products in the refectory is forbidden.  The Prioress may, however, give dispensation in this matter in the case of sick and those who are in need.

(And those to whom fist is harmful; but we declare that it is not our intention to take away the Bull of the Crusade where it is enforced.)

 

52. 3. - The habit is to be of coarse serge or woolen cloth of brown color, undyed.  They are to use as little material as possible in making the habit.  The sleeves shall be narrow, and the same width top and bottom, without pleats.  The habit is to be of equal length all around and should reach to the feet.  The scapular is to be of the same material and about three inches shorter than the habit.  The choir mantle is to be of serge also, but white in color, and equal to the scapular in length.  For this mantle as little cloth as possible should be used in order to avoid superfluity.  The scapular is to be worn over the toque.  The toque is to be made of coarse linen, without pleats.  The tunics and sheets are also to be made of woolen serge.  The sandals are to be made of hemp; and the stockings,  which for decency are worn, should be of woolen or coarse cloth, or something similar.  The pillow cases are likewise to be of woolen serge and in case of necessity, linen.  The beds are to be without mattresses, but with a sack filled with straw, for experience has proved that this is sufficient even for the weak and infirm.

 

(The beds are to be without curtains or hangings, but in case of necessity, there may be a screen of matting of coarse cloth before the door, provided it is poor.)

 

53. 4. - Each Sister shall have a separate bed.  They are not to use carpets, (nor cushion) except for the Church.  All these things are distinctive to our Order and must be observed.  They are mentioned in detail lest relaxation should ever cause us to forget what our obligation is as Religious. 

 

54. 5. - There should never be any addition of color either in clothing or bed covering, even though it be something as small as band.   They should never wear fur-lined garments, but in case of infirmity, they may use extra garment of the same coarse woolen material.

 

55. 6. - They should keep their hair cut in order not to lose time in combing it.  They are not to use mirrors, nor any other curious thing, but they are to live in complete self-forgetfulness.

 

Note: Those texts inside the parenthesis are norms which have fallen to disuse and no longer have juridical value.

 

 

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