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can God act contrary to logic?

can God act contrary to logic?  

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  1. 1. can God act contrary to logic?

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reyb

Maybe you can work on your English for a few years and then come back to say whatever it is that you want to say?

:smile2:really?

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dairygirl4u2c

i never really put two and two together on this point. i voted that God can't be illogical as did most. but i think most people perhaps including me say the trinity is not logical. so perhaps i'm and we are not being the most consistent. ive heard some people say the trinity is not iloogical, but haven't seen compelling argumentation about it. 

consider this: the son is God, the father is God, the son is not the father and they are not separate Gods.

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FancyPantsMcGovern

I would say, not contrary to logic, but not according to reason. For example, to love the Cross and not avoid suffering when it comes your way is to act not according to reason, but not necessarily illogically.

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BarbaraTherese

Is it logical that bread and wine should become the Body and Blood of Jesus?  Is it logical that someone dying of lung cancer should have the cancer completely disappear?

 

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Jack4

The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. "God", he says, "is not pleased by blood - and not acting reasonably (σὺν λόγω) is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death...".

The decisive statement in this argument against violent conversion is this: not to act in accordance with reason is contrary to God's nature. The editor, Theodore Khoury, observes: For the emperor, as a Byzantine shaped by Greek philosophy, this statement is self-evident. But for Muslim teaching, God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality.

 

"Not to act reasonably, not to act with logos, is contrary to the nature of God", said Manuel II, according to his Christian understanding of God, in response to his Persian interlocutor. It is to this great logos, to this breadth of reason, that we invite our partners in the dialogue of cultures.

 

- Pope Benedict XVI, Regensburg address

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dairygirl4u2c
On 8/1/2015 at 9:09 AM, dairygirl4u2c said:

to say God cannot lie, or cannot be evil etc is a statement surrounded by logic. if God could be illogical, it would mean GOd can lie or be evil. it would also mean impossible things like. God can be and not be at teh same time etc

i disagree with myself. i now say even if god can be illogical it doesn't mean he can be evil and good at the same time. you can be illogical and still not be evil. 

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