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CatherineM
10 hours ago, Nihil Obstat said:

I appreciate it. They are good classes, but one of them (Special Topics in Philosophy of Science: Scientific Practice) really pushes my current skill level.

That makes my brain hurt just thinking about it. 

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Nihil Obstat

It is a split graduate/postgraduate/undergraduate course, so a very broad range of experience levels.

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little2add

Thank you, Hillary Clinton. Thank you for ­reminding America about the importance of Donald Trump’s victory and of the awful consequences if you had won.

the jubilation among Democrats and their media handmaidens reveals how their hatred for Trump and his supporters overshadows any concern for ­national security. The ruling that the government showed “no evidence” that the travel ban would prevent terrorism is preposterous and should alarm every American.

New York Post-

 

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little2add

 

trump has proposed preserving federal payments to the group if it discontinues providing abortions.

According to Planned Parenthood, it receives about $500 million annually in federal funding. This money  supposedly only is used to pay for women’s health services said the organization pp

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/planned-parenthood.html?_r=0

 

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4588686
On 11/22/2016 at 1:23 AM, KnightofChrist said:

My thoughts on it are this neo-nazi group loves the free commercial Atlantic has written about them, now they have that free commercial here. Your question is accusatory and full of bs. I believe your doing exactly as Atlantic intended which was to go out and judge or accuse Trump supporters. No Trump defender here supports neo-nazis groups. But no Trump defender should have to answer your accusatory judgemental question. Ask the neo-nazi defenders on Phatmass instead. And the election is over can election threads be over too, please?

The funny thing here is how quickly KoC would start making excuses for any actual Nazi regime that came to power "Oh boy, here come the PC crybabies getting hysterical" 

 

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Nihil Obstat
On 11/22/2016 at 2:27 PM, Nihil Obstat said:

Offensive for the sake of being offensive, essentially trolling, is a far cry from actual racism though. I think there is a fair argument to be made that even some of the racism in the alt-right is just particularly vulgar trolling. Personally I think that the racist fringe of the alt-right, while certainly present, is not as widespread as some would have us believe. I am open to being proven wrong though. I just want to see more than opinion pieces.

 

On 11/22/2016 at 3:15 PM, Nihil Obstat said:

At the same time, Yiannopoulos seems to be the perfect example of a provocateur. I have not read the article, but is it a possibility that his support for that guy (with whom I am also not familiar) can be qualified in that manner? 

I no longer agree with November Nihil. The more I have paid attention, the more I think that the racist element of the alt-right is likely both inherent/necessary, and intentional, and I find Yiannopolous incredibly distasteful. I did not know much about him until recently. The inherent nationalism around which the alt-right is based seems to be a racialistic, even eugenic sort, and I do not think that has a place in civil society.

I would still say that it is not necessarily the case that every single person associated with the alt-right is racist, but I think that the 'movement' as a whole does point in that direction. I do not know where people like Steve Bannon fall on that continuum, and I believe we acknowledged that in the earlier pages of this thread.

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little2add

It took nearly nine months to take action, but the Trump administration will finally act on its promise to undo the HHS contraception mandate and protect religious liberty.

However, as the New York Times reports, the administration will propose a more incremental approach to its reversal by expanding the existing exemptions to include “moral convictions” as well as “religious beliefs.”

The new rules will take effect immediately:

 

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Child of the child

I love Donald Trump, I agree with Top Catholic Evangelist from Catholic radio which is the Relevant Radio. I love Donald Trump agenda. Remember I voted for a president not a God. This is biblically supported to respect our Government official. You could respond and bombard me with all kinds of topics , comments made by the President, but i continue to pray for him and love him as Jesus loves us. Don't follow the hate like Antifa and these hateful groups, follow Jesus and trust that hebput him there over Killary Clinton. 

I voted for him and i stand by my vote just like our Priest, Bishops, cardinals and deacons. 

Remember love with all your heart.love love love your neighbor. 

 

My grandma was an immagrant from mexico, and if she was still alive and if I told Grandma "i have to vote for something that may deport you, but in the process you may save a baby" my grandma would have packing her stuff before i would be  done with the sentence. Amen. 

It was a sacrificial vote, and i don't regret my vote up to this point. 

Love love love

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havok579257
39 minutes ago, Child of the child said:

I love Donald Trump, I agree with Top Catholic Evangelist from Catholic radio which is the Relevant Radio. I love Donald Trump agenda. Remember I voted for a president not a God. This is biblically supported to respect our Government official. You could respond and bombard me with all kinds of topics , comments made by the President, but i continue to pray for him and love him as Jesus loves us. Don't follow the hate like Antifa and these hateful groups, follow Jesus and trust that hebput him there over Killary Clinton. 

I voted for him and i stand by my vote just like our Priest, Bishops, cardinals and deacons. 

Remember love with all your heart.love love love your neighbor. 

 

My grandma was an immagrant from mexico, and if she was still alive and if I told Grandma "i have to vote for something that may deport you, but in the process you may save a baby" my grandma would have packing her stuff before i would be  done with the sentence. Amen. 

It was a sacrificial vote, and i don't regret my vote up to this point. 

Love love love

I find it funny that someone who says they love Trump and pray for him like Jesus loves us would throw I insults at another person in Clinton.  I don't think Jesus endorsed name calling.

 

It's always the same with conservatives and liberals.  They let their preferred politicians slide by and support them no matter what evils they do and attack the other side on everything no matter any good they do.  Not to mention call for their opponents head over the smallest infraction but let their preferred politician slide on any number of evils they commit.

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Era Might

Abortion, the new excuse for anything. God bless St. Donald Trump and Blessed Roy Moore.

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havok579257
1 hour ago, Era Might said:

Abortion, the new excuse for anything. God bless St. Donald Trump and Blessed Roy Moore.

if you honestly can not understand where the people who support Moore and Trump for this very reason are coming from then your just being partisan.  somehow its unacceptable to support men who sexual harass women but its more than acceptable to support men and women who literally want to pass laws to murder babies.  democrats want unfettered abortion.  tax payer funded abortions. late term abortions. abortions for any reason.  abortions/murder for babies already born from botched abortions (i.e see our last presidents voting record on this very topic).  somehow support for that is ok.  i mean that's not really that bad.  sexual harassment and all the stuff those 2 men did is horrible but dismemberment abortions are not really that bad.  i mean come on, its not like that baby is a person or alive, right?  who cares about it, since it can't vote and since our government does not recognize it as a person and we all know the government law supersedes God's law. 

 

the fact is what roy moore and donald trump did, if proven guilty are horrible unacceptable things.  i don't think anyone support what they are accused of.  although the Alabama voters are left in a crappy situation.  vote for Moore and put into power a man who is accused off all these things or don't vote/vote for the democrat and vote into power someone who supports the murder of babies.  there is no easy answer in this race.

i am just glad I don't live in Alabama and have to vote for either man.

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dominicansoul
2 hours ago, Era Might said:

Abortion, the new excuse for anything. God bless St. Donald Trump and Blessed Roy Moore.

Or St. Hussein, or St. Clinton, or St. Nancy Pelosi or St. Cecile Richards, etc. etc. etc. ..it depends on the context...

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Era Might
3 minutes ago, dominicansoul said:

Or St. Hussein, or St. Clinton, or St. Nancy Pelosi or St. Cecile Richards, etc. etc. etc. ..it depends on the context...

What depends on what context? Christians are like a rich lady who finds her soul mate, who happens to be in her same socioeconomic class. Just a huge coincidence. Christians support nationalists like Trump because they've wedded Christianity and nationalism. Abortion is just a moral pretext.

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Child of the child

My response to havoc. I love your correction on my name calling. God bless you for that, i will confess my sin, name calling is not appropriate and especially since im using it in as a statement in Grave sin. 

Ummm aborting the new excuse for everything? To me it sounds like you support abortion. That's scary and very grave. Be careful on that my brother and think twice. 

Is it new? No no no not at all. If you ever get a chance to look at th "early church fathers" and what they wrote on aborting babies then you will see its not new. 

Havoc honestly speaking thank you for the correction of my name calling and absolutely love the comment on St. Trump and Blessed Moore. Lol wonderful

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Era Might
2 minutes ago, Child of the child said:

Ummm aborting the new excuse for everything? To me it sounds like you support abortion. That's scary and very grave. Be careful on that my brother and think twice. 

No, I don't, but if I did, what's the difference from that and supporting all the stuff we do to people around the world, every day. It's okay to drop bombs on Iraq and Vietnam, nuke Hiroshima, send the CIA around the world to do all kinds of dirty deeds that the public never hears about, but abortion is the hill we die on domestically? It's because Christians in America have become fanatical nationalists who know nothing about Jesus.

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dominicansoul
3 minutes ago, Era Might said:

What depends on what context? Christians are like a rich lady who finds her soul mate, who happens to be in her same socioeconomic class. Just a huge coincidence. Christians support nationalists like Trump because they've wedded Christianity and nationalism. Abortion is just a moral pretext.

lol

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havok579257
13 minutes ago, Era Might said:

No, I don't, but if I did, what's the difference from that and supporting all the stuff we do to people around the world, every day. It's okay to drop bombs on Iraq and Vietnam, nuke Hiroshima, send the CIA around the world to do all kinds of dirty deeds that the public never hears about, but abortion is the hill we die on domestically? It's because Christians in America have become fanatical nationalists who know nothing about Jesus.

so christians are fanatical nationalists because they oppose abortion?  this is a new one.  i've never heard someone try to claim this.

 

so christian's know nothing about what Jesus wants?  so Jesus would support abortion?  i'm lost at the point your trying to make?  cause Jesus would condemn the murder and dismemberment of infants.  do you have a different understanding of Jesus's teachings?

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Seven77
21 hours ago, Child of the child said:

I love Donald Trump, I agree with Top Catholic Evangelist from Catholic radio which is the Relevant Radio. I love Donald Trump agenda. Remember I voted for a president not a God. This is biblically supported to respect our Government official. You could respond and bombard me with all kinds of topics , comments made by the President, but i continue to pray for him and love him as Jesus loves us. Don't follow the hate like Antifa and these hateful groups, follow Jesus and trust that hebput him there over Killary Clinton. 

I voted for him and i stand by my vote just like our Priest, Bishops, cardinals and deacons. 

Remember love with all your heart.love love love your neighbor. 

 

My grandma was an immagrant from mexico, and if she was still alive and if I told Grandma "i have to vote for something that may deport you, but in the process you may save a baby" my grandma would have packing her stuff before i would be  done with the sentence. Amen. 

It was a sacrificial vote, and i don't regret my vote up to this point. 

Love love love

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Are you serious? Loving your neighbor has nothing to do loving their ideas,  especially their flawed ideas… and questionable morals. Not voting for Trump doesn't equal not loving him. We are not called to merely love those we agree with. 

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havok579257
1 hour ago, Era Might said:

What depends on what context? Christians are like a rich lady who finds her soul mate, who happens to be in her same socioeconomic class. Just a huge coincidence. Christians support nationalists like Trump because they've wedded Christianity and nationalism. Abortion is just a moral pretext.

your confusing Christianity with conservationism. the fact that you can't make that distinction says something about our society today and how the news media has managed to re brand things to their elite liking. 

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