rachael Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 anybody know what a jesuit is? no one ever gives me a straight answer. thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary's Knight, La Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 short answer is a member of the religous order founded i think by St. Ignatius of Loyola, Society of Jesus (i think) i know it's abbreviated SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted September 11, 2003 Author Share Posted September 11, 2003 is it catholic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 short answer is a member of the religous order founded i think by St. Ignatius of Loyola, Society of Jesus (i think) i know it's abbreviated SJ You would be correct. They use to run all the major universities. They are highly educated, all having at least 11 years of college/seminary. Read about them here: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14081a.htm God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 They use to run all the major universities. They are highly educated, all having at least 11 years of college/seminary. Catholic universites? Or also Secular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 Yes, the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) are Catholic. Their original intent was two-fold: to stop the spread of Protestantism by refuting its errors and to spread the faith to foreign lands. Now, as an offshoot, they tend to be teachers in Catholic schools. Unfortunately, they are often known as being too liberal for the Vatican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted September 11, 2003 Author Share Posted September 11, 2003 Unfortunately, they are often known as being too liberal for the Vatican. do you know what the Vatican says about them? do they disapprove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theologian in Training Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 As with any order, there are the good ones and the bad ones. Internal to the Jesuits, there are the orthodox and the not-so orthodox. I have met many of both. All in all, the good ones are intellectual powerhouses and the bad ones, well, they want to hold hands, and praise the mother goddess of the earth. If you want a good one, check out Servant of God John Hardon, you want a bad one, check out Anthony DeMello. God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 As with any order, there are the good ones and the bad ones. Internal to the Jesuits, there are the orthodox and the not-so orthodox. I have met many of both. All in all, the good ones are intellectual powerhouses and the bad ones, well, they want to hold hands, and praise the mother goddess of the earth. If you want a good one, check out Servant of God John Hardon, you want a bad one, check out Anthony DeMello. God Bless Is there anyway the Vatican can disband members in this orders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 If there are really terrible they can be banned from teaching at a Catholic university. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 No, the Vatican doesn't disapprove of them as a whole, but of monastic orders, they're often seen as the most un-orthodox on the whole. That doesn't mean that each individual is, there are many good, humble, and pious Jesuits, but those that are not tend to be very loud about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp15 Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 ............but those that are not tend to be very loud about it. That seems to apply to most liberals in general :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted September 11, 2003 Author Share Posted September 11, 2003 so would it be wrong to go to a jesuit university? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 i don't think so. If they're too liberal, debate em. Teachers usually respect you if you have intelligent arguments with them in classrooms. Then again, they could just fail you. I donno, maybe look into what kind of Jesuits run the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 so would it be wrong to go to a jesuit university? No, at least not inherently. Many of them are good institutions with good priests, but the Jesuits tend to be one the fence on drastic issues like women priests, contraceptives, abortion, etc. Some are very conservative. In my home town, we have Creighton University (Creighton University), a Jesuit University, which just ran the play "The Vagina Monologues", which is essentially a bunch of people, dressed up in costumes that look like a particular female body part, who talk about their owners' sex lives from a different perspective. It's not only disgusting and immoral, but it's unnatural and degrading to women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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