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inperpetuity    281
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[url="http://tradvocations.blogspot.com/search/label/Victim%20Nuns%20of%20the%20Sacred%20Heart%20of%20Jesus"]http://tradvocations.blogspot.com/search/l...rt%20of%20Jesus[/url]
Beautiful pictures!
If I could speak French, I would write to this community.

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tnavarro61    34
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do you want to write in english? you may try google translate . they give imperfect but understandable results!

I am acquainted with the order. I find the picture below so holy (veils covering the nuns' heads).
I want to know more about them.

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inperpetuity    281
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[quote name='tnavarro61' post='1572589' date='Jun 16 2008, 07:13 AM']do you want to write in english? you may try google translate . they give imperfect but understandable results!

I am acquainted with the order. I find the picture below so holy (veils covering the nuns' heads).
I want to know more about them.[/quote]

That's a good idea. Thanks. I tried doing a search for them, but found nothing. I will ask my pastor if he knows them since he's an FSSP priest and they are served by the FSSP and others.

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Maria_Faustina    3
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I recognize the second picture, with the nun with the candle and garland...I have it saved on my computer, actually! So I wonder if they had been talked about on VS before? I'm pretty sure I remember the name "Victims of the Sacred Heart" too--I wouldn't forget a name that beautiful! Perhaps someone else on here will come along who knows; I would love to know more about them too.

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Chiquitunga    817
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Yeah, they've been discussed before particularly in the Nuns Picture thread by EJames, and then a thread asking about communities that have the Traditional Latin Mass. He seemed to know a bit about them. They look really beautiful! God bless! Edited by Margaret Clare

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Chiquitunga    817
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[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s=&showtopic=69543&view=findpost&p=1443538"]Here's[/url] something he posted on them

[quote name='EJames2' post='1443538' date='Jan 8 2008, 09:29 PM']well in France their are roughly;y 20 houses/friaries/Convents/ Abbeys who exclusively utilize the Traditional Rites. the Womens Communities that Celebrate according to the Traditional Rites of The Church are Benedictines, or Apostolic/Contemplative Dominicans (and also SSPX Associated Franciscans),
the Passionist Nuns in France have shrunk in numbers considerably.
BUT, their is a Community that , as far as i can tell , are VERY similar in charism of identifying with the reparation of The Passion of Our Lord., AND are served Daily by the 'Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter' AND, (if i remember well, ) have a Sister from the U.K..
you could write and ask them about any connection with Saint Gemma
they are
[b]Religieuses Victimes du Sacré-Coeur de
Jésus/Victim Religious of the Sacred Heart of Jesus [/b](previously mentioned in the Phorum)
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[u]my rough translation from French below.[/u]
[i]"Founded in 1838 by madame
Julie-Adèle of Grin-Ricard,who become Prioress under the name of, Mother Mary -victim
of Jesus Crucified ((1793-1865), the Institute has for its particular end to unite with the Divine Saviour
in his Victimhood and Passion to imitate in religion and charity Our Lord who
incomparably immolating himself in sacrifice for the Glory of God
and the salvation of souls.
[u]Aim of the Community[/u]
Penance,Reparation, Salvation of
Souls, Console the Heart of Jesus, Sanctification of priests (hood), that all thoughts as a virgin victim to Gods merciful Love, the principal may be to Console,the Heart of Christ in His passion.

The Community is dedicated to
the perpetual adoration of most Holy Sacrament. « Una cum Christo Hostia, cor
Unum », it is their moto. The Sisters make vows of Poverty, Chastity,
Obedience and papal enclosure

It is by love that Jesus
Sacrifices himself, it is by love that it is necessary to follow Him in His Sacrifice, and the
treasure of this love is contained in His Heart.
It is this mark of the Sisters, indicated by their title 'Victims of the Sacred Heart', that indicates their vocation is totally founded upon Love.
This is the only Monastery of the Community and has, as of 2006, 13 Nuns and a 2 Novices."[/i]
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and a bird told me they do the hairshirt thing and symbolic' dicsipline, in the same manner as the Contmplative Missionaries of Charity and FFIs.
( good references i think would be required from Spiritual persons/directors for this life)
[b]Rev. Mother Superior
Monastère des Religieuses Victimes du Sacré-Coeur de
Jésus
52 rue Lavat
13003 Marseille [/b](south France)
[b]FRANCE[/b]
[img]http://www.cruisecritic.com/images/ports/maps/marseillemap.jpg[/img]
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please do not reproduce these pics anywhere, thanks.

[img]http://images.onesite.com/mycatholicvillage.com/user/catholique_apostolique/france/4218436773.jpg[/img]
[img]http://images.onesite.com/mycatholicvillage.com/user/catholique_apostolique/france/aame001008.jpg[/img]
[img]http://images.onesite.com/mycatholicvillage.com/user/catholique_apostolique/france/4218437017.jpg[/img]
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if you need anymore info or anything, dont hesitate to PM me.
in communion of prayer[/quote] Edited by Margaret Clare

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cathoholic_anonymous    1
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[quote name='inperpetuity' post='1572788' date='Jun 16 2008, 07:17 PM']That's a good idea. Thanks. I tried doing a search for them, but found nothing. I will ask my pastor if he knows them since he's an FSSP priest and they are served by the FSSP and others.[/quote]

I would be happy to translate a letter for you if you wanted. My French isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than that of the Google translator. ;)

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inperpetuity    281
inperpetuity
[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1573681' date='Jun 17 2008, 07:42 AM']I would be happy to translate a letter for you if you wanted. My French isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than that of the Google translator. ;)[/quote]

That is very kind of you, and I will keep it in mind, but my experience with French speaking communities is that they really prefer you speak the language before they admit you. I will have to mull this one over for awhile. If I do decide to, I will take you up on that! God bless, Lisa

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alicemary    7
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I say, write them and see what they say. They might have Americans, and they could help with the translations. Cant hurt to write them. If you are meant to explore them further, doors(and languages) will open

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Ale    0
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Well, I think you can write them, because that in western Europe (Italy, France; Spain, Germany, Holland...) is very common to study English language during high school years.
Maybe in that community there is one (or more than one) nun that could easily speak in English and probably answer to your letter.

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EJames2    68
EJames2
Thank -you Margaret Clare for posting my previous Post.
Everything i have about them Margaret Clare has re-posted.
I will check the [url="http://catholique-marseille.cef.fr/index.php"]Diocese of Marseille[/url] website to see if anything new is up. I am French speaking so if anyone wants translations just let me know.
also Ale is correct in that many religious,especially Superiors/directors have a decent grasp English(and Spanish?Italian at times)in fact i always met an Guestmaster/ or Novice master or Superior who spoke and mostly understood English in many places in France and Belgium, Italy less so., but they also do wish you to have at least a grasp course/experience of their language before making any extended serious visit , especially enclosed/contemplative orders, since they don't send out someone for a language Course usually, and the Monastic Silence etc..
PAX
Ps just looking at a French website i see they are also of Pontifical Rite, and somehow associated with 3rd order Dominicans?but i think that is a misprint, because the website post just before it says the same thing for the traditional 'Dominicans Of The Holy Spirit', so it must have been miss-copied?.
interesting

[i]Institut de Droit Pontifical - Tiers Ordre dominicain
Année de fondation : 1843
Mère Prieure : Soeur Marie Véronique de la Sainte Face
Adresse : Religieuses Victimes du Sacré-Coeur - 52, rue Levat - 13003 Marseille
[/i]
again my previous post
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s=&showtopic=69543&view=findpost&p=1443538"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s...t&p=1443538[/url]

update P.s. --i just read that they live in a very populated area of the City (Marseille), but are so hidden/inconspicuous folks do not know they are there, the building is large and very austere on 2 hectares of property in them populated area of town(Marseille).and this article (of which only a tiny section is published online says they have 20 Sisters. and that the Superior, Mother Veronique of the Holy Face, desires a movement of Priest to be committed as associate Victims of the Sacred Heart. and that all priests will realize this role in thier priesthood of sacrifice. Edited by EJames2

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EJames2    68
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incase someone is planning on ringing the Convent doorbell, here is a location ,blue mark, map. :rolleyes:
[url="http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&t=h&msa=0&ll=43.310639,5.387088&spn=0.001913,0.003326&z=18&msid=107508130906870198068.00044ff1e460af2b887d"]http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?hl=en&ie...f1e0460af2b887d[/url]
PAX

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jkaands    8
jkaands
Beautiful pictures--?professionally done?--very picturesque and all

--and very picturesque spikes--thorns, I guess--coming out of her floral crown.

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EJames2    68
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[quote name='jkaands' post='1575047' date='Jun 18 2008, 10:56 AM']Beautiful pictures--?professionally done?--very picturesque and all

--and very picturesque spikes--thorns, I guess--coming out of her floral crown.[/quote]
Yes professionally done by a Photographer for Corbis, for a 2002 article about them, during a profession, it was in the French CDI, magazine i think originally. Edited by EJames2

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Studiumecclesiae    11
Studiumecclesiae
I know these nuns and I spent 3 days in the Guest area (for young aspirants), as you can't get into the enclosure unless you become a postulant.

I really like these nuns and their spitiuality is so beautiful!!
But it's one of the strictest convents in the South of France!! :amen: You HAVE to have a vocation, if you want to last there.

GOD BLESS THEM.

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Studiumecclesiae    11
Studiumecclesiae
I know these nuns and I spent 3 days in the Guest area (for young aspirants), as you can't get into the enclosure unless you become a postulant.

I really like these nuns and their spitiuality is so beautiful!!
But it's one of the strictest convents in the South of France!! :amen: You HAVE to have a vocation, if you want to last there.

GOD BLESS THEM.

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Chiquitunga    817
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[quote name='Studiumecclesiae' timestamp='1290689242' post='2189241']
I know these nuns and I spent 3 days in the Guest area (for young aspirants), as you can't get into the enclosure unless you become a postulant.

I really like these nuns and their spitiuality is so beautiful!!
But it's one of the strictest convents in the South of France!! :amen: You HAVE to have a vocation, if you want to last there.

GOD BLESS THEM.
[/quote]

Wow, that is so neat you visited them! Can you share any more about your visit there? Did you take any pictures you can share by chance? These nuns look beautiful and so dedicated to their vocations as victims in union with Our Lord .. that's quite a vocation .. They look to be Franciscan in spirituality, with the cords around their waists. It is wonderful to see they are still going since 1838 .. :pray: Edited by Chiquitunga

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Studiumecclesiae    11
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[quote name='Chiquitunga' timestamp='1290712033' post='2189275']
Wow, that is so neat you visited them! Can you share any more about your visit there? Did you take any pictures you can share by chance? These nuns look beautiful and so dedicated to their vocations as victims in union with Our Lord .. that's quite a vocation .. They look to be Franciscan in spirituality, with the cords around their waists. It is wonderful to see they are still going since 1838 .. :pray:
[/quote]

There are some photos of the outside chapel (the one anyone can go to for Mass)
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They have the Tridentine Mass every day except for Fridays because their confessor says the Novus Ordo.
It's the strictest Order I have ever known.
You can't see them at all, there are grills+curtains, so it's impossible to catch a glimpse of them.
I just saw Mother Superior in the Parlour (the nun's photo if you scroll up, it's HER) but the sister who is from "le tour", you know that round thing that lets you pass things, I just could hear her voice, just like the Sacristan's. All the others, nothing at all.
Just hear their voices for the Office or Mass, but nothing else.
It's a very special vocation, they are here for REPARATION, for the greatest sins of the world. They are very traditionalistic, and I like them.
I kept in touch with the Mother Superior, and if I am around Marseille, I go and see her in the parlour and tell her all my spiritual adventure and discernment. I know I couldn't join them.

They are so marvellous! the youngest entered there when she was 20. They have lots of vocations! Surely, they are faithful to their founder.

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