Palin Buzz Has Gone? Mccain/palin Numbers Slide Slightly

[Lounge Daddy]

McCain/Palin's slight edge in the polls has vanished. The numbers are pretty much tied up (again).

The [url="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html"]RCP average [/url]has McCain still ahead over one point. The last Gallup Poll has McCain at 47, Obama at 46.

The good news from the last bump is this: Biden did nothing to the Obama/Biden ticket, except perhaps harm it. Only Palin brought a bump in the polls, and a lot of coverage. Palin's addition to the ticket also made the extreme liberal bias in the mainstream press very very apparent. So apparent that even the Clinton camp warned the msm that they are going too far.

The bad news: the media is going to quickly tire of covering Palin and go back to swooning over Obama. Which means much less exposure of McCain/Palin, and much greater exposure (without any real scrutiny or actual journalism) of the Obama/Biden ticket.

In fact, [url="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/15/business/marketwatch/main4448337.shtml"]John Friedman at CBS[/url] is warning that the media may not just grow tired of covering Sarah Palin and simply ignore her. They might decide to try to destroy her first, and then ignore her:

[indent]The Sarah Palin Phenomenon is doomed.

...

This is how the world works in the age of 24/7 news cycles. Whether the subject is Britney Spears, Michael Jordan or Sarah Palin, we inevitably raise stars to mythic levels, out of all reasonable proportions. Then we knock them down.[/indent]

[Didacus]

This is very strange. Could it be that not everyone knows that Palin is a hockey mom?



We need to get the message out there! But what can I do stuck here in Canada...


Arrggghhh, bring back the UnionJack!

[eagle_eye222001]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1656937' date='Sep 16 2008, 07:10 PM']McCain/Palin's slight edge in the polls has vanished. The numbers are pretty much tied up (again).

The [url="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html"]RCP average [/url]has McCain still ahead over one point. The last Gallup Poll has McCain at 47, Obama at 46.

The good news from the last bump is this: Biden did nothing to the Obama/Biden ticket, except perhaps harm it. Only Palin brought a bump in the polls, and a lot of coverage. Palin's addition to the ticket also made the extreme liberal bias in the mainstream press very very apparent. So apparent that even the Clinton camp warned the msm that they are going too far.

The bad news: the media is going to quickly tire of covering Palin and go back to swooning over Obama. Which means much less exposure of McCain/Palin, and much greater exposure (without any real scrutiny or actual journalism) of the Obama/Biden ticket.

In fact, [url="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/15/business/marketwatch/main4448337.shtml"]John Friedman at CBS[/url] is warning that the media may not just grow tired of covering Sarah Palin and simply ignore her. They might decide to try to destroy her first, and then ignore her:

[indent]The Sarah Palin Phenomenon is doomed.

...

This is how the world works in the age of 24/7 news cycles. Whether the subject is Britney Spears, Michael Jordan or Sarah Palin, we inevitably raise stars to mythic levels, out of all reasonable proportions. Then we knock them down.[/indent][/quote]

Palin is not doomed. The media will try to raise Biden from the dead in October but he was a bad pick and will not rise to near the stardom Palin did.

Palin has made the big splash. Now she and McCain need to ride the wave in.

[dUSt]

So what you're sayin' is Palin is failin'?











Sorry. The voices made me do it.

[Norseman82]

Here's the way I look at it:

Even if "Palin-mania" is leveling off, it has done it's job, and that is leveling the playing field. Each side now has its "rock star" on the ticket. Now substantive issues need to be discussed, and Obama will have to actually say what "change" he wants to accomplish.

The main task now is to make sure Palin does well in the VP debate against Biden. Each side has its strong points, but the public perception/spin is that she is inexperienced, at least in foreign affairs. As long as she ties Biden or comes close in the VP debate, that will go a long way to negate that spin.

Of course, remembering Clinton's "boxers or briefs?" question, someone could ask her "wood or aluminum?" (hockey stick, that is).

[Lounge Daddy]

However, there is something that is a bit of a new phenomena for a Republican presidential candidate.

The McCain/Palin ticket is expected to well in a few demographics that are typically Democratic Party turf: Jews and single white women. This could really hurt Obama.

On the other hand Obama and McCain are tied up in the RCP average tonight. [url="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html"]They both sit at 45.7
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[kenrockthefirst]

[url="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/us/politics/18poll.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin"]McCain Seen as Less Likely to Bring Change, Poll Finds[/url]

[i]The poll also underlined the extent to which Mr. McCain’s convention, and his selection of Ms. Palin, [b]had excited Republican base voters[/b] about his candidacy, which is no small thing in a contest that continues to be so tight: 47 percent of Mr. McCain’s supporters described themselves as enthused about the Republican Party’s presidential ticket, almost twice what it was before the conventions. As often happens at this time of year, partisans are coalescing around their party’s nominees and independents are increasingly the battleground.

[b]But the Times/CBS News poll suggested that Ms. Palin’s selection has, to date, helped Mr. McCain only among Republican base voters; there was no evidence of significantly increased support for him among women in general.[/b] White women were evenly divided between Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama; before the conventions, Mr. McCain led Mr. Obama among white women, 44 percent to 37 percent.[/i]

[Lounge Daddy]

[url="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html"]Obama is up 1.7 in the RCP average[/url]. Several recent polls had Obama ahead by 2-5 points. A few were tied.

[Lounge Daddy]

Obama's now up over 3 points in the[url="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html"] RCP average[/url]. 6 out of the last 7 polls has Obama in the lead; and one of those polls has Obama up 9 points.

More bad news: Johnsonville brat Morris has been closely following the polling data and he sees trouble for McCain. You can [url="http://w3.newsmax.com/a/morrismap/"]view his map at News Max[/url].

The optimistic news: Obama got no bounce from his running mate, and McCain was polling even and, in one poll, ahead of Obama during the Democrat's own convention. Obama had one brief bounce from his speech at the end of the DNC convention, but it was very very short lived.

McCain, on the other hand, got a huge bounce from his announce of the running mate, and the Republican convention drew more viewers than anything. The polls were in McCain's favor during the GOP convention.

The hope is that the debates, which begin this weekend, will give McCain the edge in the polls as we head toward the election.

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1662628' date='Sep 24 2008, 10:28 AM']McCain, on the other hand, got a huge bounce from his announce of the running mate, and the Republican convention drew more viewers than anything. The polls were in McCain's favor during the GOP convention.[/quote]
The bloom is well and truly off the Palin rose.

[url="http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x4141.xml?ReleaseID=1216"]Change Puts Obama Up Slightly In Four Battlegrounds, Quinnipiac University/Wall Street Journal/Washingtonpost.Com Poll Finds[/url]

[KnightofChrist]

Thanks to all the hit pieces on Palin and lovely dovey pieces on Obama by the unfair bias media.

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1663687' date='Sep 25 2008, 05:16 PM']Thanks to all the hit pieces on Palin and lovely dovey pieces on Obama by the unfair bias media.[/quote]
I know! Fox "News" is just so-o-o-o liberal.

[Kirisutodo333]

Gallup has them tied again. Nice!

McCain 46%
Obama 46%

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1664054' date='Sep 26 2008, 07:16 AM']I know! Fox "News" is just so-o-o-o liberal. [/quote]

Fox News has had it share of liberal bias, even if liberals hate them to death.

[kenrockthefirst]

[url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081002/ap_on_el_pr/ap_poll_presidential_race"]AP poll: Obama takes a 7-point lead over McCain[/url]
[i]
Likely voters now back Obama 48-41 percent over McCain, a dramatic shift from an AP-GfK survey that gave the Republican a slight edge nearly three weeks ago, before Wall Street collapsed and sent ripples across worldwide markets. [b]On top of that, unrelated surveys show Obama beating McCain in several battlegrounds, including Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and Iowa — four states critical in the state-by-state fight for the presidency.[/b]

Several GOP strategists close to McCain's campaign privately fret that his chances for victory are starting to slip away.

These Republicans, speaking on condition of anonymity to avoid angering the campaign, point to several factors: Obama's gains nationally and in traditionally GOP states, no McCain boost from the first debate, McCain's struggles with economic issues as the financial crisis has unfolded [b]and deepening public skepticism about his running mate, Sarah Palin.[/b][/i]
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