Palin, Summed Up

[KnightofChrist]

Funny cartoon but what actual factual basis does it have? Cutting government spending is no good?

[dairygirl4u2c]

[quote name='Knight of the Holy Rosary' post='1657836' date='Sep 17 2008, 09:19 PM']I would argue that for as long as this occurs legally in our country it is a valid point.[/quote]

it's a valid point incidentallly only to what was brought up. it's a valid point in the big picture definitely. but the way he said it, and the way it's often said, it's ultimately irrelevant. (if he meant it incidentally it's not irrelvant, but he said it in a way that appears irrelevant and probably to a large degree was)

cause as to answering the issue presented, it's totally dodging it and invalidly answering it. "she's into kicking puppies and beating old people" "yeah, but obama is prochoice". "she likes to charge the national debt to her credit card, earning our debt's interest at least 30%" "yeah but she's life" etc etc
not addressing the issue.

you see my point.

Edited September 19, 2008 by dairygirl4u2c

[dairygirl4u2c]

what he, the fellow posted about in this thread, said is very true. when i hear her talk, i hear a teenager trying to figure out politics. only in her case, she stopped trying, and actually believes what should be rhetoric only. her ideas don't bear in reality, but rather only in simplistic concepts, such that as a young person would use to begin understanding it all.

[dairygirl4u2c]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1658334' date='Sep 18 2008, 01:40 PM']Funny cartoon but what actual factual basis does it have? Cutting government spending is no good?[/quote]

well she hasn't made it clear that she wants to cut spending, other than pork etc. as mentiponed in another thread, that only accounts for like 12 billion a year. the tax cuts they want to give are 3.3 trillion. hardly enough to make a dent in paying for em. going in to debt would only mean higher taxes, which basically means they're being less conservative than obama in many ways.

and even if she did want to cut spending, that's okay, but she needs to say what and why. if she wants to get rid of things that help people, in ways that are justified (whatever that means, granted), then she's only looking for the bottom line in ways that are not just. everyone deserves basic health care if they are willing to work etc, kinda things,,,, minimal safeguard types things not jsut that.

the economy will take care of itself for the most part. there's a false dichotomy that's often created by republicans, that if we want a good economy we can't have basic quality in healh care type things etc. that's the politics of despair. hte politics of hope is that you can. like when putting safeguards preventing building in suburbs etc. developers will shout doom and gloom if they can't build. when in fact, with those measures, inner city renovation becomes lucrative, urban decay stops etc. just an analogy. we won't be punished for doing the right thing, it's just not the way God created all this.

and if you're for capital gains,,,, which means you're for favortism in taxation,,, you might as well target them in more economically efficient ways. instead of blanket cuts, go for things that help bring capital to the country, stir innovation, create jobs.
there are many examples whre a governmental dirctive could in fact increase economic efficiency.

"cutting taxes" is way too simplistic, that if that's the only solution, it's not much. "cutting spending" at that level of vagueness is just as bad.

Edited September 19, 2008 by dairygirl4u2c

[princessgianna]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1657664' date='Sep 17 2008, 08:42 PM']verifying, that this sort of response is the answer to everything from the republican side[/quote]
well that was the other option! I am not going to "make the picture pretty" when it is bloody murder that Palin
could have easily and legally done! That is not acceptable that people do such horriable things to a child!

[kenrockthefirst]

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[T-Bone _]

[quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1658952' date='Sep 19 2008, 06:06 AM'][img]http://www.cagle.com/working/080918/sheneman00.gif[/img][/quote]

Change Palin to Obama, Reform to Change, and Wall Street to Washington, and you have something truthful...

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='T-Bone _' post='1658956' date='Sep 19 2008, 07:20 AM']Change Palin to Obama, Reform to Change, and Wall Street to Washington, and you have something truthful...[/quote]
Except, presumably, that Obama likes brie.

[dairygirl4u2c]

obama says what he's going to do largely. many times the specifics are not gotten into, and granted that's why i'd be hesitant to vote for him,,, but it's a lot more specific than what she says.
eg, 1000 tax credit to middle class. health care options for all. stopping the capital gains and such loopholes. green economy help from the gov with plans and protocols etc etc. just go to his website, you can see it all, he's not hiding it.