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Biden's 14 Lies

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[quote name='SpareTime' post='1671250' date='Oct 5 2008, 10:05 PM']11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

someone translate please?[/quote]
It's calling him hypocritical for saying John McCain was wrong about the war when he himself also voted to authorize it. And then it's pointing out that he is "wrong" about the surge not working in Iraq.

Though, there is much to be debated about what's to be considered working and not working. But i would agree that the Democrats were in error when they said that the surge did not work, generally speaking.

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DannyBoy
[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1669171' date='Oct 3 2008, 10:01 AM'][url="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/"]Little Green Footballs[/url], a great weblog I love to read, has been keeping a tally of the lies of Joseph Biden. Apparently, last night he told Lie Number 14, when he claimed that Obama never said he would sit down for a chat with Iranian Madman, Ahmadinejad. There's video of the lie at LGF, and here's the List of Lies which is sure to grow by the day leading up to election.


JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES TONIGHT

In tonight’s debate, Joe Biden claimed that Barack Obama never said he would meet unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

That was a blatant, shameless lie.

[url="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31447_Bidens_Big_Lie"]Let’s go to the video, Stinky.[/url]


1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.


2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. [b]Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.[/b]


3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “[b]raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”[/b]


4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.


5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, [b]but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.[/b]


6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.


7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false


8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.


9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.


10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.


11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.


12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.


13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”


14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

Source: [url="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31447_Bidens_Big_Lie"]http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31447_Bidens_Big_Lie[/url][/quote]


I am so thankful for this commentary. It makes me realize to what extent a person's ignorance can corrupt. I mean your own of course and not Joe's.

St. Joe Biden...change Washington for us! Amen

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SpareTime
[quote name='DannyBoy' post='1679892' date='Oct 17 2008, 01:52 PM']I am so thankful for this commentary. It makes me realize to what extent a person's ignorance can corrupt. I mean your own of course and not Joe's.

St. Joe Biden...change Washington for us! Amen[/quote]

i think someone has to die before they can become a formal saint. but there are other problems beyond the fact that he is actually alive..

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kamiller42
[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1670067' date='Oct 4 2008, 02:00 AM']If that's true, then cite your source and provide the example.[/quote]
"I am not a proponent of nuclear energy."
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R52J2D5QQU"]Source[/url]

He talks about nuclear power like he does offshore drilling. "We'll look into it."

Prediction: If Obama is president, we will not see one nuclear plant built.

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ardillacid
Not the example that I was thinking of, but it'll do. The debate I had in mind he was straighforward about his disdain for it. :) Thanks Kamiller42

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ardillacid
[quote name='DannyBoy' post='1679892' date='Oct 17 2008, 02:52 PM']I am so thankful for this commentary. It makes me realize to what extent a person's ignorance can corrupt. I mean your own of course and not Joe's.

St. Joe Biden...change Washington for us! Amen[/quote]
Sweet rebuttal! :topsy:

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