Norseman82 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 My thoughts: 1) All this desecration that has come to public light lately tells me that we need to stop the "communion in the hand" and allow only "communion on the tongue". 2) Many priests will actually watch to make sure that communicants will actually consume the Body before they proceed back to the pews. 3) I mentioned this to my associate pastor, and I will say it again: have the KofC stationed at the communion stations with their swords. They can serve as honor guard and deterrant. 4) If someone actually tries to break in to the tabernacle, then I would have no qualms about using any legal physical means to restrain them. All I would be doing is preventing vandalism. CatholicDefender, since you are in the Navy may I assume that you were at Great Lakes when this bishop mentioned this to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicDefender Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 [quote name='Norseman82' post='1670868' date='Oct 5 2008, 03:11 PM']CatholicDefender, since you are in the Navy may I assume that you were at Great Lakes when this bishop mentioned this to you?[/quote] No i'm just home for the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abercius24 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 (edited) If presented with an imminent threat against the Eucharist, yes a quick sweep to the leg and a bend of the wrist to relieve him of the property he has STOLEN would be appropriate, but outside of a few aches for the 5 minutes thereafter, he would be unharmed. But that's using minimal violence to protect imminent danger to Church property. This whole brooding over hurting this kid is what disturbs me. It reeks of unGodly vengeance. "'Vengeance is mine' says the Lord." When it comes to violence, you gotta keep your cool, otherwise it will easily go too far. Any obsession with violence is GUARANTEED to find itself under a demonic influence, especially when it has "righteous" motives (where blind faith and blind hatred can blur). Being in the military I would expect you to know how unpredictable and intoxicating the thought of violence can be for a person, even a faithful Christian. Stay sober against your negative feelings. Besides, everyone knows the real tough guys are the ones who don't talk about it. BEING tough is enough for them. Edited October 5, 2008 by abercius24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 (edited) [img]http://goatmilk.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/nuns_with_guns_big.jpg[/img] Posting the obligatory nuns with guns picture. Carry on. Edited October 5, 2008 by Ash Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 yes, anything with revengeful motives (rather than preventative motives) is unacceptable. but I wouldn't blame a mob of people for jumping on him if he did something in a public place with a lot of Catholics around; and I don't mind spreading Dominique Poulin's information around so that what he has done in public will be known by the public he knows in real life; I do not expect that anything will happen to him but if his neighbor were to go beat him up I would not consider myself to blame; I merely made known to more of the public that which he publicly broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='abercius24' post='1670965' date='Oct 5 2008, 07:45 PM']This whole brooding over hurting this kid is what disturbs me. It reeks of unGodly vengeance.[/quote] Agreed. Christ did not torment or harm those who inflicted such suffering on his body during his passion; I do not see why so many here are focusing on harming those who profane his body now, detestable as it may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I cannot understand how 'roughing someone up' would help the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='Norseman82' post='1670868' date='Oct 5 2008, 02:11 PM']My thoughts: 1) All this desecration that has come to public light lately tells me that we need to stop the "communion in the hand" and allow only "communion on the tongue". 2) Many priests will actually watch to make sure that communicants will actually consume the Body before they proceed back to the pews. 3) I mentioned this to my associate pastor, and I will say it again: have the KofC stationed at the communion stations with their swords. They can serve as honor guard and deterrant. 4) If someone actually tries to break in to the tabernacle, then I would have no qualms about using any legal physical means to restrain them. All I would be doing is preventing vandalism.[/quote] i like it! u bring up good points! i like the KofC idea above the rest though i have to admit that could lead to interesting results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='Hassan' post='1670745' date='Oct 5 2008, 07:27 AM']. . . desecrating a wafer that a Priest prayed over.[/quote] The Eucharist is the Body of Christ and not simply a "wafer." As far as the topic of this thread is concerned, it is merely hearsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majella Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 My first reaction was:"Of course you can use violence to defend the Holy Eucharist!". But then I considered how Our Lord forbade His apostles to use violence to defend Him when He was arrested. It's a hard one; but I think we have to follow Our Lord's example rather than our hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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