Obama Is In Fact A Socialist

[KnightofChrist]

[b]Will MSM Report on Obama Membership in Socialist New Party?[/b]
By P.J. Gladnick
Created 2008-10-08 16:15

The mainstream media thought that the membership of Todd Palin, who is not a candidate for any office, in the Alaska Independence Party important enough to report in such outlets as the Los Angeles Times [1], MSNBC [2], and the New York Times [3], among others. So now that Barack Obama's membership in the far left New Party has been unearthed, will they report his membership in that Socialist organization?

Proof of Obama's membership in the New Party was discovered by the Politically Drunk On Power blog [4]:

In June sources released information that during his campaign for the State Senate in Illinois, Barack Obama was endorsed by an organization known as the Chicago "New Party". The 'New Party' was a political party established by the Democratic Socialists of America (the DSA) to push forth the socialist principles of the DSA by focusing on winnable elections at a local level and spreading the Socialist movement upwards. The admittedly Socialist Organization experienced a moderate rise in numbers between 1995 and 1999. By 1999, however, the Socialist 'New Party' was essentially defunct after losing a supreme court challenge that ruled the organizations "fusion" reform platform [5] as unconstitutional.

After allegations surfaced in early summer over the 'New Party's' endorsement of Obama, the Obama campaign along with the remnants of the New Party and Democratic Socialists of America claimed that Obama was never a member of either organization. The DSA and 'New Party' then systematically attempted to cover up any ties between Obama and the Socialist Organizations. However, it now appears that Barack Obama was indeed a certified and acknowledged member of the DSA's New Party.

On Tuesday, I discovered a web page that had been scrubbed from the New Party's website. The web page which was published in October 1996, was an internet newsletter update on that years congressional races. Although the web page was deleted from the New Party's website, the non-profit Internet Archive Organization [6] had archived the page.

From the October 1996 Update of the DSA 'New Party':
"New Party members are busy knocking on doors, hammering down lawn signs, and phoning voters to support NP candidates this fall. Here are some of our key races...

Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary)."

You can find the above quote from the scubbed New Party web page at this Internet Archive Organization link [7]. More confirmation of Obama's membership in the New Party can be found at an article [8] in the November 1996 Progressive Populist magazine:

New Party members and supported candidates won 16 of 23 races, including an at-large race for the Little Rock, Ark., City Council, a seat on the county board for Little Rock and the school board for Prince George's County, Md. Chicago is sending the first New Party member to Congress, as Danny Davis, who ran as a Democrat, won an overwhelming 85% victory. New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.

The Democratic Socialist Party of America also reported on Obama's New Party membership in its July/August 1996 edition [9]:

The Chicago New Party is increasely becoming a viable political organization that can make a different in Chicago politics. It is crucial for a political organization to have a solid infrastructure and visible results in its political program. The New Party has continued to solidify this base.

First, in relation to its infrastructure, the NP's membership has increased since January '95 from 225 to 440. National membership has increased from 5700 in December '95 to 7000. Currently the NP's fiscal balance is $7,000 and receives an average of $450/month is sustainer donations.

Secondly, the NP's '96 Political Program has been enormously successful with 3 of 4 endorsed candidates winning electoral primaries. All four candidates attended the NP membership meeting on April 11th to express their gratitude. Danny Davis, winner in the 7th Congressional District, invited NPers to join his Campaign Steering Committee. Patricia Martin, who won the race for Judge in 7th Subcircuit Court, explained that due to the NP she was able to network and get experienced advice from progressives like Davis. Barack Obama, victor in the 13th State Senate District, encouraged NPers to join in his task forces on Voter Education and Voter Registration. The lone loser was Willie Delgado, in the 3rd Illinois House District. Although Delgado received 45% of the vote, he lost by only 800 votes. Delgado commented that it was due to the NP volunteers that he carried the 32nd Ward. Delgado emphasized that he will remain a visible community activist in Humbolt Park. He will conduct four Immigration workshops and encouraged NP activists to get involved.

Kudos to Politically Drunk On Power for digging up this information about Obama's membership in the socialist New Party. The question now is if the MSM will deem his party membership important enough to report on. They sure didn't hesitate to report on Todd Palin's membership in the Alaska Independence Party.

UPDATE: Yet more proof of Obama's close involvement in the socialist New Party from NewsBusters' Hermano who provided this link [10] to the Chicago Democratic Socialists of American September-October 1995 New Ground 42 edition:

About 50 activists attended the Chicago New Party membership meeting in July. The purpose of the meeting was to update members on local activities and to hear appeals for NP support from four potential political candidates. The NP is being very active in organization building and politics. There are 300 members in Chicago. In order to build an organizational and financial base the NP is sponsoring house parties. Locally it has been successful both fiscally and in building a grassroots base. Nationwide it has resulted in 1000 people committed to monthly contributions. The NP's political strategy is to support progressive candidates in elections only if they have a concrete chance to "win". This has resulted in a winning ratio of 77 of 110 elections. Candidates must be approved via a NP political committee. Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP.

The political entourage included Alderman Michael Chandler, William Delgado, chief of staff for State Rep Miguel del Valle, and spokespersons for State Sen. Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez, chief of staff for State Sen. Jesse Garcia, who is running for State Rep in Garcia's District; and Barack Obama, chief of staff for State Sen. Alice Palmer. Obama is running for Palmer's vacant seat.

So Obama signed a contract with the New Party? Verrrry interesting.

Source URL:
[url="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/will-msm-report-obama-membership-socialist-new-party"]http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/...alist-new-party[/url]

Links:
[1] [url="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-brooks4-2008sep04,0,5675222.column"]http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-...,5675222.column[/url]
[2] [url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26524024/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26524024/[/url]
[3] [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/politics/04party.html?ref=politics"]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/polit...ml?ref=politics[/url]
[4] [url="http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/web-archives-confirm-barack-obama-was.html"]http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html[/url]
[5] [url="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913"]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913[/url]
[6] [url="http://archive.org/"]http://archive.org/[/url]
[7] [url="http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/www.newparty.org/up9610.html"]http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/...org/up9610.html[/url]
[8] [url="http://www.populist.com/11.96.Edit.html"]http://www.populist.com/11.96.Edit.html[/url]
[9] [url="http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html"]http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html[/url]
[10] [url="http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932"]http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932[/url]

[Fidei Defensor]

First off, the reason why Todd's membership was brought up is because if Palin's husband is "pallin'" around with groups like that, whose leader has said he hates America, that's a little disturbing. And who knows, seeing as she herself recorded a message to them (as governor, none the less. Interesting.)

And second, this isnt a very credible source. A supposed "scrubbed" website of the party? Give me a break. Hasn't anyone ever told you all about how anyone can put anything on the internet, and that you should be careful what you believe when you read things online? Yeah. Precisely.

Unless there is more concrete evidence other than some obscure webpage, I ain't buying it.

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1672897' date='Oct 8 2008, 06:56 PM']First off, the reason why Todd's membership was brought up is because if Palin's husband is "pallin'" around with groups like that, whose leader has said he hates America, that's a little disturbing. And who knows, seeing as she herself recorded a message to them (as governor, none the less. Interesting.)

And second, this isnt a very credible source. A supposed "scrubbed" website of the party? Give me a break. Hasn't anyone ever told you all about how anyone can put anything on the internet, and that you should be careful what you believe when you read things online? Yeah. Precisely.

Unless there is more concrete evidence other than some obscure webpage, I ain't buying it.[/quote]

Leaders who say they hate America? And Obama's attendence of Jeremiah Wright's church doesn't bother you?

Talk about a double standard. You have definitely lost any reasoning ability you once had.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1672897' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:56 PM']First off, the reason why Todd's membership was brought up is because if Palin's husband is "pallin'" around with groups like that, whose leader has said he hates America, that's a little disturbing. And who knows, seeing as she herself recorded a message to them (as governor, none the less. Interesting.)[/quote]

All the more reason Obama should have equal pressure put on him for his ties to extremist. They are not putting equal pressure on Obama what so ever. They continue to baby him.

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1672897' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:56 PM']And second, this isnt a very credible source. A supposed "scrubbed" website of the party? Give me a break. Hasn't anyone ever told you all about how anyone can put anything on the internet, and that you should be careful what you believe when you read things online? Yeah. Precisely.

Unless there is more concrete evidence other than some obscure webpage, I ain't buying it.[/quote]

You do not understand the use of sources? Because it is well sourced.

[1] [url="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-...,5675222.column"]http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-...,5675222.column[/url]
[2] [url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26524024/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26524024/[/url]
[3] [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/polit...ml?ref=politics"]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/polit...ml?ref=politics[/url]
[4] [url="http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html"]http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html[/url]
[5] [url="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913"]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913[/url]
[6] [url="http://archive.org/"]http://archive.org/[/url]
[7] [url="http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/...org/up9610.html"]http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/...org/up9610.html[/url]
[8] [url="http://www.populist.com/11.96.Edit.html"]http://www.populist.com/11.96.Edit.html[/url]
[9] [url="http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html"]http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html[/url]
[10] [url="http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932"]http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932[/url]

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='aalpha1989' post='1672903' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:10 PM']Leaders who say they hate America? And Obama's attendence of Jeremiah Wright's church doesn't bother you?

Talk about a double standard. You have definitely lost any reasoning ability you once had.[/quote]
Don't put words in my mouth. I find anyone who associates with someone who hates America like that disturbing. Rev. Wright is a disturbing man.

I am simply saying that if you are allowed to point fingers at Obama, we can point fingers at the Republican savior, Palin, seeing as this is almost the exact same thing. (of course, Rev. Wright claimed authority from God on that one... if he were a Catholic Priest, would you agree with him?)

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1672905' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:13 PM']All the more reason Obama should have equal pressure put on him for his ties to extremist. They are not putting equal pressure on Obama what so ever. They continue to baby him.



You do not understand the use of sources? Because it is well sourced.

[1] [url="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-...,5675222.column"]http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-...,5675222.column[/url]
[2] [url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26524024/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26524024/[/url]
[3] [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/polit...ml?ref=politics"]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/polit...ml?ref=politics[/url]
[4] [url="http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html"]http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html[/url]
[5] [url="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913"]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913[/url]
[6] [url="http://archive.org/"]http://archive.org/[/url]
[7] [url="http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/...org/up9610.html"]http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/...org/up9610.html[/url]
[8] [url="http://www.populist.com/11.96.Edit.html"]http://www.populist.com/11.96.Edit.html[/url]
[9] [url="http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html"]http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html[/url]
[10] [url="http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932"]http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932[/url][/quote]
Most of those sources are simply pointing out other referenced points or are not credible sources of news.

What I'm saying is, why should I trust some alleged "scrubbed" webpage? What credabilty do these people have to tell me that this is, in fact, the truth, and they aren't somehow biased against Obama and simply trying to find anything they can to use against him?

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1672908' date='Oct 8 2008, 07:15 PM']Don't put words in my mouth. I find anyone who associates with someone who hates America like that disturbing. Rev. Wright is a disturbing man.

I am simply saying that if you are allowed to point fingers at Obama, we can point fingers at the Republican savior, Palin, seeing as this is almost the exact same thing. (of course, Rev. Wright claimed authority from God on that one... if he were a Catholic Priest, would you agree with him?)[/quote]

It's actually not the same thing at all. Todd Palin is not running for president of the united states, or even vice president.

If he were a Catholic priest I would not agree with him at all. Unfortunately there are many preists who do not teach the Truth. But there are more who do, and the point is irrelevent. Neither Wright nor Todd Palin is Catholic.

Edited October 8, 2008 by aalpha1989

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='aalpha1989' post='1672911' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:19 PM']It's actually not the same thing at all. Todd Palin is not running for president of the united states, or even vice president.

If he were a Catholic priest I would not agree with him at all. Unfortunately there are many preists who do not teach the Truth. But there are more who do, and the point is irrelevent. Neither Wright nor Todd Palin is Catholic.[/quote]
It's still "pallin" around with people who hate America. Palin is running for the second highest office in the land, and you want to somehow believe it doesn't matter that her husband associates with a group that wants to succeed from the U.S. and whose leader hates America? How is that irrelevant? It's perfectly relevant. If she disagrees with that group and it's hate for America, why did she record a speech for them and remained associated with them?

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI[/url]

And how about this one?
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its[/url]

Edited October 8, 2008 by fidei defensor

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1672913' date='Oct 8 2008, 07:24 PM']It's still "pallin" around with people who hate America. Palin is running for the second highest office in the land, and you want to somehow believe it doesn't matter that her husband associates with a group that wants to succeed from the U.S. and whose leader hates America? How is that irrelevant? It's perfectly relevant. If she disagrees with that group and it's hate for America, why did she record a speech for them and remained associated with them?

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI[/url][/quote]

When I said the point was irrelevent I meant your little stab at Catholics, not your stab at Todd (which, incidentally, is almost as irrelevent as what I actually meant was irrelevent).

Hey, guess what, the Constitution says that state membership is voluntary, meaning that technically Alaska can seceed any time it wants. How dare someone actually be educated about what the founding fathers intended.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='aalpha1989' post='1672916' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:29 PM']When I said the point was irrelevent I meant your little stab at Catholics, not your stab at Todd (which, incidentally, is almost as irrelevent as what I actually meant was irrelevent).

Hey, guess what, the Constitution says that state membership is voluntary, meaning that technically Alaska can seceed any time it wants. How dare someone actually be educated about what the founding fathers intended. [/quote]
And everyone knows that love for America is best displayed by succeeding the from the Union. I'm glad our potential VP loves our country so much to want that.

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1672917' date='Oct 8 2008, 07:31 PM']And everyone knows that love for America is best displayed by succeeding the from the Union. I'm glad our potential VP loves our country so much to want that.[/quote]


She doesn't. She was actually never a member of the party, as the New York Times reported about three weeks ago. Of course they put it on page 23 so that no one would read it, but do a google search and you'll see that a single member of that party made that claim and it was blown out of proportion by the media which also neglected to report when that claim was found to be false...

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='aalpha1989' post='1672919' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:35 PM']She doesn't. She was actually never a member of the party, as the New York Times reported about three weeks ago. Of course they put it on page 23 so that no one would read it, but do a google search and you'll see that a single member of that party made that claim and it was blown out of proportion by the media which also neglected to report when that claim was found to be false...[/quote]
Watch the second video I linked to. For someone who is not a member, she sure has a lot of support from the group. Especially when they talk about infiltrating the government by putting a Republican brand on it. Scary stuff.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1672910' date='Oct 8 2008, 06:19 PM']Most of those sources are simply pointing out other referenced points or are not credible sources of news.

What I'm saying is, why should I trust some alleged "scrubbed" webpage? What credabilty do these people have to tell me that this is, in fact, the truth, and they aren't somehow biased against Obama and simply trying to find anything they can to use against him?[/quote]

The sources are good and show good evidence that Obama is in fact a Socialist. If you want to reject them so be it. One either takes the factual data as it is or doesnt. You dont, ok.

[Lounge Daddy]

That's interesting that Obama was probably an upper-case "s" Socialist at one time. A major campaign organizer of his here in Michigan has been a member of the Socialist Party a while back.

Of course I also have no problem calling McCain a socialist (small "s").

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1672922' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:48 PM']The sources are good and show good evidence that Obama is in fact a Socialist. If you want to reject them so be it. One either takes the factual data as it is or doesnt. You dont, ok.[/quote]
What makes them good and credible? Because you agree with them? You have yet to show me why I should believe them.

An obscure website is not "factual data." Sorry.