philothea Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I understand the intention of this topic... but I think suggesting that we "be afraid" is always unhelpful and wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 [quote name='philothea' post='1681068' date='Oct 19 2008, 02:35 AM']I understand the intention of this topic... but I think suggesting that we "be afraid" is always unhelpful and wrong.[/quote] We should be afraid. ANYtime one party gets too much power we are headed for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1681529' date='Oct 19 2008, 08:42 PM']We should be afraid. ANYtime one party gets too much power we are headed for trouble.[/quote] I'm being nitpicky, I know. I agree we should be concerned, possibly outraged, and work to avoid as much damage as possible. But, in my opinion, [i]fear[/i] indicates a lack of trust and faith in God. I don't think Christians should ever be afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 [quote name='philothea' post='1681628' date='Oct 19 2008, 10:03 PM']I'm being nitpicky, I know. I agree we should be concerned, possibly outraged, and work to avoid as much damage as possible. But, in my opinion, [i]fear[/i] indicates a lack of trust and faith in God. I don't think Christians should ever be afraid.[/quote] unless approaching their salvation sorry, obscure St. Paul referance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 [quote name='Hassan' post='1681640' date='Oct 19 2008, 11:26 PM']unless approaching their salvation sorry, obscure St. Paul referance [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 [quote name='Hassan' post='1681640' date='Oct 20 2008, 12:26 AM']unless approaching their salvation sorry, obscure St. Paul referance [/quote] Can't recall the chapter, verse, or book but "Work out your salvation with trembling and fear"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 also check out [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s=&showtopic=86425&view=findpost&p=1682354"][u][i]this thread in the politics phorum[/i][/u][/url] to also be warned about no freedom to go along with the liberalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 [quote name='Spamity Calamity' post='1680161' date='Oct 17 2008, 08:42 PM']I know. I know. Ive been telling everyone I can why Mr. Obama in the white house with Pelosi in the Senate would be a horrible, horrible thing. Nobody is hearing me. I would be willing to bet that the American electorate is more uninformed and ignorant today than we were a century ago. Its like everyone is in a daze and can only bleet "change". Gah, Im depressed. Im gonna go.[/quote] Yesterday on Prot radio I heard an interview a guy was doing in which he was asking people questions like "do you think obamma will really help the pro-life Cause" and "how do you think Sarah Palin will do as VP in an Obamma administration (I'm not kidding)". Oh ya, she will be a great VP. There is alot of ignorance out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 [quote name='thessalonian' post='1682560' date='Oct 21 2008, 08:47 AM']Yesterday on Prot radio I heard an interview a guy was doing in which he was asking people questions like "do you think obamma will really help the pro-life Cause" and "how do you think Sarah Palin will do as VP in an Obamma administration (I'm not kidding)". Oh ya, she will be a great VP. There is alot of ignorance out there.[/quote] If it's the clip I'm thinking of, I heard that too. I'm surprised you heard it on Christian radio, though, because I think it was originally on Howard Stern (I heard it on youtube). But yeah.... For the record, there was also a guy who was a McCain supporter who thought Joe Biden would be a good VP and definately supported McCain's plan to pull out Iraq immediately. So, there are ignorant voters on both sides... but yeah. Those people shouldn't vote. (Not that they shouldn't be allowed to, but they should recognize their ignorance and not do so-- I'm not calling for a litmus test on voting....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 [quote name='eagle_eye222001' post='1680212' date='Oct 17 2008, 09:03 PM']...just remember that socialism has never worked in America and the American people will not pay for all the CHANGE Obama wants to bring.[/quote] Socialism has in part worked in the US. There are many socialist elements in our country, without which we would be in a worse state. The only hope for a society without a responsible aristocracy is a bit of socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1680686' date='Oct 18 2008, 02:47 PM']Our system right now kills me. I see [i]it's [/i]fruits every day with the kids I work with.[/quote] And with some of the teachers, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin86 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 (edited) The only people who shouldn't be allowed to vote are Obama supporters. Yeah, I said it.... AND I WAS KIDDING!!! Edited October 21, 2008 by Justin86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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