prose Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I am a naive CAnadian about this, but if this is true, can he be president? If not, and he gets voted in, does he get "outed"? [url="http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w&feature=bzb302"]http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w&feature=bzb302[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 I spelled his name wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 [quote name='prose' post='1689402' date='Oct 30 2008, 03:24 PM']I am a naive CAnadian about this, but if this is true, can he be president? If not, and he gets voted in, does he get "outed"? [url="http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w&feature=bzb302"]http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w&feature=bzb302[/url][/quote] It's not true. [url="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html"]http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 He addressed that website in the video. Look, I don't care either way (well, I do care, but I don't have a vote), but I am curious what the ramifications could be of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 [quote name='prose' post='1689410' date='Oct 30 2008, 03:32 PM']He addressed that website in the video. Look, I don't care either way (well, I do care, but I don't have a vote), but I am curious what the ramifications could be of this.[/quote] Let's say this was true. If it were, then legally, he would not be able to run for President and even if he won the majority of the electoral votes, he could not be sworn in as President. As for the video "addressing" the website, you can't argue with a physical and certified copy of his birth certificate nor with the birth announcement in the newspaper of his hometown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 So would it automatically go to whoever was his vice president? Or would it be a new election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 [quote name='prose' post='1689414' date='Oct 30 2008, 03:36 PM']So would it automatically go to whoever was his vice president? Or would it be a new election?[/quote] I'm not sure. My guess would be that there would have to be a new election or it would go to the candidate who won the second largest amount of electoral votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 Okay... (sorry about my not knowing anything about the American System)... Don't you have a 2 party system? So the other party would be the person who got the most votes, wouldn't it? Or would it somehow be Hillary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone _ Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 [quote name='prose' post='1689414' date='Oct 30 2008, 03:36 PM']So would it automatically go to whoever was his vice president? Or would it be a new election?[/quote] Well, in the US, you don't really vote for president. You vote for Electors, who are pledged to vote for whomever their party has nominated. So, this is where things get complicated: The electors can vote for whomever they please. The parties can suggest a different nominee, or just nominate the VP candidate. It depends on the party's bylaws. (Or the Electors can all vote for someone else, even the other party's nominee.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone _ Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Also, interestingly enough, each state's legislature determines the method of choosing the Electors--so there's no actual right to vote at all in the Presidential race, they could name their own Electors without the State's residents voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin86 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 A part of me kinda hopes this is true, and Obama wins the electors, who suddenly can't vote for him. Be interesting to see how that worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 A word on the video: The logic in the video is laughable at best. I like when they point out a "conflict of interest" with the factcheck.org site. Pot? Meet kettle. Are they supposed to be the unbiased ones here? Right. And if you were born in the U.S., you were born in the U.S. You can't be unborn from the U.S. Contrary to all the noise they were making about moving to Indonesia, it does not invalidate his citizenship of the U.S. It's irrelevant whether or not Indonesia had dual citizenship, he would still retain his citizenship of the U.S. because the U.S. legally allows dual citizenship. They claim that he somehow renounced his citizenship by being naturalized in Indonesia or something of that effect, and he could only become a citizen of the U.S. by naturalization. However, they have no proof he was naturalized in Indonesia. One record from a school says that he was a citizen of Indonesia, which was filled by his father. That is not sufficient proof to synthesize that he was naturalized there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 [quote name='prose' post='1689417' date='Oct 30 2008, 03:40 PM']Okay... (sorry about my not knowing anything about the American System)... Don't you have a 2 party system? So the other party would be the person who got the most votes, wouldn't it? Or would it somehow be Hillary?[/quote] If, for example, it was not proven until after the electors cast their votes, that he was not a natural born citizen, and John McCain had the second largest number of electoral votes, I would assume the Presidency would go to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 Wow.. It is confusing down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 its amercia baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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