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Vatican Priest Reginald Foster Interviewed By Bill Maher In Religulous

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Hassan
[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1812990' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:07 AM']when the person ends up thinking thoughts that are not good.

thinking isn't always a good thing.

people think about women in bad ways.

people think about hurting other people.

people think about leaving the Church.

thinking isn't always good, hassan dear. ;)[/quote]


That would come up here :rolleyes:

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TotusTuusMaria
[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1812992' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:09 AM']Although a vatican priest was saying this. Bill Marher didnt make it up. So the priest is to blame.[/quote]

Bill is the one who called it a palace.

Bill is the one who asked how the priest felt about the Pope living there.

Bill asked the questions and pointed the interview in the way it did. Yes, the priest was to blame for not responding with corrections to Bill's questions/claims, but Bill was going right along with it.

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Hassan
[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1812989' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:07 AM']This movie was pretty stupid. It did have funny parts and it was supposed to be a comedy according to Bill Marher. He is no doubt an idiot and didnt really pick on no one his own size.

The two parts of movie I enjoyed though were the two interviews with the catholic priest. The one being the vatican astrologer who basically said a fundamentalist view of the bible is a disease and talked about aliens and evolution. I also found the part with Father Foster very interesting to. Maher got owned by him to although Foster did seem to who Bill more love then he deserved.[/quote]


That just finished.

I thought the Priest was funny

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TotusTuusMaria
[quote name='Hassan' post='1812982' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:03 AM']Rahner yes, the ontological one no.

I'm also reading "The Act of Being" but that is about a Shia philosophers philosophy of revelation :unsure:[/quote]

:rolleyes:

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TotusTuusMaria
[quote name='Hassan' post='1812993' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:09 AM']That would come up here :rolleyes:[/quote]

what is that suppose to mean?

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Josh
[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1812994' date='Mar 21 2009, 01:11 AM']Bill is the one who called it a palace.

Bill is the one who asked how the priest felt about the Pope living there.

Bill asked the questions and pointed the interview in the way it did. Yes, the priest was to blame for not responding with corrections to Bill's questions/claims, but Bill was going right along with it.[/quote]


O no doubt Bill is a antichrist. But I find Father Foster just as troubling or more trobuling. Because it's hard for me to just write off what he says.

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TotusTuusMaria
[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1812998' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:12 AM']O no doubt Bill is a antichrist. But I find Father Foster just as troubling or more trobuling. Because it's hard for me to just write off what he says.[/quote]

Why is it hard?

He is not infallible. Just because he is a priest and just because he did at one time hold a job in the Vatican does not make everything he says right or worth listening too. He has it wrong.

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Hassan
[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1812997' date='Mar 21 2009, 01:12 AM']what is that suppose to mean?[/quote]


I mean I'd assume she meant intelectual questions, I asked what sort of thinking about that would be wrong

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TotusTuusMaria
[quote name='Hassan' post='1813001' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:17 AM']I mean I'd assume she meant intelectual questions, I asked what sort of thinking about that would be wrong[/quote]

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kafka
[quote name='Hassan' post='1812936' date='Mar 21 2009, 01:36 AM']I'm reading "The Foundations of the Christian Religion" by Karl Rahner and "Rethinking the Ontological Argument: A Nonclassical Theistic Response" by Daniel Dombrowski.

Once again Sultan Hassan not only meets but exceeds all expectations :yes:[/quote]
you are reading it already? Wow. How far are you?



[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1812998' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:12 AM']O no doubt Bill is a antichrist. But I find Father Foster just as troubling or more trobuling. Because it's hard for me to just write off what he says.[/quote]
Why and what exactly is troubling you about him? He is just a priest. He could have gone astray from the truth even if he lives in Vatican City.

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Hassan
[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1813000' date='Mar 21 2009, 01:15 AM']Why is it hard?

He is not infallible. Just because he is a priest and just because he did at one time hold a job in the Vatican does not make everything he says right or worth listening too. He has it wrong.[/quote]


I loved that Priest, if I ever go back to Itally I'm hanging out with him. Not for the heterodox claims, he just seemed like a really fun guy :P

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Josh
Why is he so adament (sp?) on there being no hell and insinuating (sp?) that it's old catholic teaching and many agree with him ? I just find it hard to discredit someone who has spent their whole life serving the chruch and write them off. He must have a reason to say what he is saying. I would really like to hear his explanation. Or at least someone with authority to speak out against him. Edited by Delivery Boy

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TotusTuusMaria
[quote name='Hassan' post='1813005' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:19 AM']I loved that Priest, if I ever go back to Itally I'm hanging out with him. Not for the heterodox claims, he just seemed like a really fun guy :P[/quote]

:rolleyes: :yawn:

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TotusTuusMaria
[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1813006' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:19 AM']Why is he so adament (sp?) on there being no hell and insinuating (sp?) that it's old catholic teaching and many agree with him ? I just find it hard to discredit someone who has spent their whole life serving the chruch and write them off. He must have a reason to say what he is saying. I would really like to hear his explanation. Or at least someone with authority to speak out against him.[/quote]

Lots of people spend their lives in the Church and end up having it wrong... like all of those sisters who dance around the altar and sing to Sophia...

There are a lot of people who are supposedly "in" the Church and have supposedly served the church but who just have it wrong. No one else besides the Pope in the Church is infallible and when priests and religious say and do things contrary to the Church it is sad, but we have to brush it off as they are not infallible.

He is older... many priests and religious who worked in the church during Vatican II have some things confused... yeah, it would be interesting to hear his explanation.

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Josh
It sorta reminds me of when Jesus was talking about the pharassies (sp) and saying listen to what they preach to you but dont do what they do. Something about how they set the bar so high but yet dont do anyting to help lift the weight off the sinners.

Sorta like with mortal sin. It's a mortal sin to miss mass, it's a motal sin to masturbate, it's a mortal sin to do alot of things. What other church teaches that it's a mortal sin to miss church one week ? Now i'm not saying one should miss church but it also seems extreme to say one goes to hell if they miss church.

This is just me rambling at 230 am but it was a conncetion I sorta made. Again I know masturbation and all these sins are bad sins and to be avoided. Yet it just seems sometimes as if really harsh rules and consequences have been put on cathoilcs and it reminded me of that verse where Jesus was talking about the pharassies (sp)

And I sorta tied that into what Father Foster was saying on a few things.

ALTHOUGHHHHHHH

I agree with you and that he is wrong and the gates of hell will not prevail. Edited by Delivery Boy

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Josh
[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1813016' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:28 AM']Lots of people spend their lives in the Church and end up having it wrong... like all of those sisters who dance around the altar and sing to Sophia...

There are a lot of people who are supposedly "in" the Church and have supposedly served the church but who just have it wrong. No one else besides the Pope in the Church is infallible and when priests and religious say and do things contrary to the Church it is sad, but we have to brush it off as they are not infallible.

He is older... many priests and religious who worked in the church during Vatican II have some things confused... yeah, it would be interesting to hear his explanation.[/quote]


Ya I see what you are saying. So a question, the pope is infallible in that he could never be wrong on anything ?

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Hassan
[quote name='kafka' post='1813004' date='Mar 21 2009, 01:18 AM']you are reading it already? Wow. How far are you?[/quote]


just starting it. I skimmed through it a little bit but am going to read it start to finish as well.

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TotusTuusMaria
[quote name='Hassan' post='1813034' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:36 AM']just starting it. I skimmed through it a little bit but am going to read it start to finish as well.[/quote]

:yawn: so you haven't been reading it? :rolleyes:

more lies from the pretender...

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TotusTuusMaria
[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1813032' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:36 AM']Ya I see what you are saying. So a question, the pope is infallible in that he could never be wrong on anything ?[/quote]

He is infallible on matters of faith and morals alone.

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kafka
[quote name='Hassan' post='1813034' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:36 AM']just starting it. I skimmed through it a little bit but am going to read it start to finish as well.[/quote]
I dont agree with him on every point, yet I must admit he does come up with many good and original insights. I also like his style. He is reverant, honest, and serious, and not pietistic, naive or obtrusive. He is supposedly notoriously difficult to read, but I actually enjoy his long sentences.

The first 100 pages or so are a bit difficult, perhaps a bit strenuous yet they are his foundation concepts for the rest of his theology/philosophy which by Chapter Three launches into some (in my opinion) breathtaking and exciting insights. I hope you enjoy and benefit from it.

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