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TeresaBenedicta

Erm... I've only ever prayed with the current Psalter, typically used by Roman Catholic clergy and religious.... Sometimes I don't care for some of the translations... sometimes I like them better than others I've heard...

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The translations listed in the poll are all in Latin. The schemata, though, can obviously be used in any language.

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VeniteAdoremus

There are different types of monastic. The one-week psalter is common, but so is the two-week. :) And it can vary wildly from monastery to monastery... oh, the binders and ribbons and lay-in sheets!

My community chants the British edition Divine Office with mostly different hymns and the Dominican compline.

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[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1900794' date='Jun 24 2009, 05:34 PM']The history of the various psalter translations and schemata is very interesting.[/quote]
Wow, you are really a nerd. :mellow:



:blowkiss:

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[quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1900810' date='Jun 24 2009, 05:16 PM']There are different types of monastic. The one-week psalter is common, but so is the two-week. :) And it can vary wildly from monastery to monastery... oh, the binders and ribbons and lay-in sheets!

My community chants the British edition Divine Office with mostly different hymns and the Dominican compline.[/quote]

In the poll I was talking about [url="http://www.kellerbook.com/Monastic.htm"]this[/url] Benedictine schema. It is that is used in the EF Monastic Breviary. :)

[quote name='philothea' post='1900827' date='Jun 24 2009, 05:40 PM']Wow, you are really a nerd. :mellow:



:blowkiss:[/quote]

:mellow:

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[quote name='picchick' post='1900847' date='Jun 24 2009, 06:10 PM']I don't know which one I use actually...how do I find out?[/quote]

What Breviary do you use?

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VeniteAdoremus

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1900846' date='Jun 25 2009, 02:07 AM']In the poll I was talking about [url="http://www.kellerbook.com/Monastic.htm"]this[/url] Benedictine schema. It is that is used in the EF Monastic Breviary. :)[/quote]

I gathered as much, but what for the people who prefer the two-week? They have nothing to vote for.

[quote name='picchick' post='1900847' date='Jun 25 2009, 02:10 AM']I don't know which one I use actually...how do I find out?[/quote]

If you don't know, you use the four-week OF :)

If you don't know AND you spend so much time on the Office that you don't have time for Phatmass, you use the Benedictine ;)

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*sigh*

I only pray the 4 week Ordinary Form. For EF, I wanna get into Benedictine (cause they're my favourite order :P). What translation do you recommend?

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Or maybe I wanna pray Pius X version? Hmmm... choices!

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I would definitely get recommend getting the [url="http://www.farnboroughabbey.org/press/dirunal.php"]Monastic Diurnal[/url].

I personally have the [url="http://www.aquinasandmore.com/index.cfm/title/Diurnale-Romanum/FuseAction/store.ItemDetails/SKU/1358/"][i]Diurnale Romanum[/i][/url], but I wish that I had gotten the [i]Monasticum[/i].

The [i]Monastic Diurnal[/i] has the benefit of being in both Latin and English, as opposed to the only edition of the [i]Roman Diurnal[/i] on the market, which is in Latin only.

I also have come to discover that I prefer the Monastic psalter schema to the Pius X. The Monastic schema is actually much more traditional, having been arranged by St. Benedict 1500 years ago. The Pius X schema was arranged by a committee at the Vatican only 100 years ago.

Also on the market is the [url="http://www.breviariumromanum.com/home_en.html"][i]Breviarium Romanum[/i][/url]. I would recommend against getting this as it is much more expensive than the Diurnale and it is only in Latin. The only benefit in getting the [i]Breviarium Romanum[/i] is that it has Matins while the others do not. However, Matins is extremely long. Perhaps you would have time to pray it, but I know that I don't. :)

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VeniteAdoremus

My sister has the Monastic Diurnal and she's tremendously happy with it.

It's very cute. Much smaller than I expected.

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[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1901458' date='Jun 25 2009, 06:06 PM']I would definitely get recommend getting the [url="http://www.farnboroughabbey.org/press/dirunal.php"]Monastic Diurnal[/url].

I personally have the [url="http://www.aquinasandmore.com/index.cfm/title/Diurnale-Romanum/FuseAction/store.ItemDetails/SKU/1358/"][i]Diurnale Romanum[/i][/url], but I wish that I had gotten the [i]Monasticum[/i].

The [i]Monastic Diurnal[/i] has the benefit of being in both Latin and English, as opposed to the only edition of the [i]Roman Diurnal[/i] on the market, which is in Latin only.

I also have come to discover that I prefer the Monastic psalter schema to the Pius X. The Monastic schema is actually much more traditional, having been arranged by St. Benedict 1500 years ago. The Pius X schema was arranged by a committee at the Vatican only 100 years ago.

Also on the market is the [url="http://www.breviariumromanum.com/home_en.html"][i]Breviarium Romanum[/i][/url]. I would recommend against getting this as it is much more expensive than the Diurnale and it is only in Latin. The only benefit in getting the [i]Breviarium Romanum[/i] is that it has Matins while the others do not. However, Matins is extremely long. Perhaps you would have time to pray it, but I know that I don't. :)[/quote]
Verbum. Thanks for the help. I think I'll consider investing in the Monastic Diurnal. 1500 years of experience says it all for me :P

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Marie-Therese

Rex, since you seem to be the current resident expert on this subject, can you recommend a Carmelite breviary? I currently have the [i]Little Office of the BVM[/i] (Baronius Press) which is in Latin and English, but I have no breviary of the larger office excepting the current NAB breviary, which translation I find abominable. I note that the Monastic Diurnal you linked to is wonderful but seems Benedictine in focus, which is why I wonder that there is a Carmelite equivalent. If not, that Diurnal looks pretty good.

Thanks for all the info...the depths of your brain never cease to amaze me. :flowers:

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As far as I am aware, there is no Latin-English Carmelite Breviary in print today. Your best bet would probably be to check EBay. I could also try to contact [url="http://www.carmelitemonks.org/index.html"]these EF Carmelite monks[/url] associated with the diocese of Cheyenne, Wyoming. :)

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