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Rosary - Let's Pray It.
L4.3 Je vous salut Marie, pleine de grace, le Seigneur est avec vous, vous etes benie entres toutes les femmes et Jesus, le fruit de vos entrailles est beni. Sainte Marie, Mere de Dieu, priez pour nous pecheurs, maintenant et a l'heure de notre mort. Amen -
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What do you do when the idea of "having a relationship with Christ" just isn't appealing?
Sounds like satan is alive and well, as one might expect, throughout the world at this time. There certainly can be. But not everyone is called to have a good life, and especially not through a personal relationship with Christ. His followers embrace suffering (or at least try to). He said, "pick up your cross and follow Me" - not "you're going to feel really good if you love Me". So yeah, if the end goal is the concerns of this life, you're not going to want that personal relationship with Him. And if you don't want it with Him now, you're not going to want it with Him for all eternity, and He's not going to force Himself on you. But it sounds like you already know that. That makes it sound like your biggest source of pain is the guilt you feel about your sinful life, and the only good things that you experience are worldly things. But all good comes from God, including good worldly things. I think if the relationship were not there, the good things would suddenly become mediocre, at best. They would lose their flavor and/or pleasurableness. And the pain would likely only increase. (Although, it's a fair point that God sometimes allows people to have a wonderful life because He knows they are going to Hell so He allows them to experience more joy and happiness on Earth before they are doomed eternally.) That's sad, and it makes me contemplate my own life, and how many graces I've received. I think if you were in my shoes, and had as many graces as I've had, you'd be much holier than I hope to be. And if I were in your shoes, I'd probably already have given up the fight and despaired and apostatized. So let me ask you - do you want to desire a closer relationship with God? Or do you want to completely lose the desire for a closer relationship with God? If you at least want a holier desire, then God has something to work with. Don't give up on Him yet. He can and will take away your pain, even in dramatic ways, if it's for your spiritual good. -
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Sign Petition to Keep Boy from Being Forced to Live with Abusive Dad
This is a very, very, very dangerous road. When the government is given the power to define for a nation what constitutes an "abuser", and what constitutes "safety and protection", then the nation loses. Period. It's not just likely that such power would be used against good parents, it's absolutely inevitable. In fact this very argument is already being used against good parents, even here in the USA. You want to keep kids safe? Keep them out of public school. -
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Identity politics at its finest. We have seriously got to stop using feminine pronouns to refer to men who are pretending to be women. Fixed. -
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