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  2. Lilllabettt

    Embryo Adoption

    Yeah... I would NEVER do IVF. I consider IVF a form of child abuse. I try hard not to blame people because they are ignorant... but I'm not ignorant and I would never do it to innocent kids. I'm asking about embryo adoption. Premarital sex, extra marital sex, IVF are all sins but God can bring good out of them (when he creates a baby). Why God "participates" in seeming to bless those sins but doesnt bless people who have sex the "right" way is an enduring mystery to me. But whether an unborn baby is conceived via premarital sex or IVF , once the baby is conceived, the question is what do you do with it. For babies conceived in premarital sex, the mom could get an abortion or she could keep it growing in her womb. For babies conceived via IVF the mom could leave them to die, give them to science for experiments, or implant them so they can keep growing in her womb. Or put them up for prenatal adoption. Those are the only options. The experiments are definitely immoral. The other options are open to debate. I have a hard time seeing "leaving them to die" as being prolife. It's TRUE we are not required to provide extraordinary means of sustaining a patients life. But these are healthy babies who will die only because they are being denied the ordinary means - nutrition, water- of preserving life. With these patients they can only receive ordinary support in utero. So... to me it makes sense that we have to provide the ordinary means, if we can.
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  4. Leetonia

    convent cake thread

    I wish there were more. This is my new fav thread on the internet.
  5. Seven77

    Embryo Adoption

    he is not addressing embryo adoption itself though
  6. Not A Mallard

    Embryo Adoption

    A priest's perspective on this: https://rcspirituality.org/ask_a_priest/ask-a-priest-is-it-a-sin-for-a-catholic-couple-to-undergo-an-ivf-procedure/
  7. Anomaly

    CS Lewis' Space Trilogy Book Discussion

    Are we all caught up through Chapter 5?
  8. Not A Mallard

    Drop a word, keep a word

    oil can
  9. little2add

    Laughter is good medicine.....

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  11. Seven77

    4K TV. Is it worth it?

    I know. Wish I didn't have to own one either. Well, needed to get a smart TV with some apps so I saw a sweet deal today on Amazon, a combination package of 4K TV with sound bar with built in subwoofer. I think the sound bar thing should be fitting for the audio art… Not the greatest sound system in the world but hey it works for me.
  12. Lilllabettt

    4K TV. Is it worth it?

    Actually dont listen to me. I dont own a tv
  13. dUSt

    4K TV. Is it worth it?

    I'm a fan of art, so I'm always going to try to view or listen to art how the artist intended. That means I try not to listen to music for the first time on earbuds or laptop speakers, and I try to watch film and media on the resolution it was shot. I guess what I'm saying is, yes to 4K. Lol. Of course, with that said, some 1080p HD TVs look better than 4K TVs. How a picture looks has a lot more factors than just the resolution. I'd still prefer a 1080p plasma over most LCD 4K TVs being sold today.
  14. Lilllabettt

    4K TV. Is it worth it?

    Ok well you know what I think
  15. Seven77

    Embryo Adoption

    My instinct tells me that something is very wrong. It's not natural. But that's the conception we are talking about. After the child has been conceived… Now that might be a different story… embryo adoption seems to me to be saving life that already exists…Even if it is also technically unnatural… Well, that's the part that gets confusing to sort out in my mind.
  16. Seven77

    4K TV. Is it worth it?

    Heck no! I'm talking about a $200-$300 TV. 4K refers to the resolution of the TV, not the cost, LOL.
  17. Lilllabettt

    4K TV. Is it worth it?

    You're talking about a $4,000 tv? Correct? If you have the money, why not. If it's a main amusement for you, go for it. Maybe volunteer to host a superbowl party or state of the union watch party (they exist).
  18. Lilllabettt

    Father Marcelo Rossi pushed off stage [VIDEO]

    Is it still automatic excommunication to strike a priest?
  19. Lilllabettt

    Embryo Adoption

    Intention is important although I understand the "object" is important as well. We cant do evil in order that good might come of it. So, the question is, is the act of implanting an embryo in a mom good or evil. Some say yes, because it screws with the natural procreative process- they go so far as to say a bio mom that repents of doing IVF cant implant her remaining embryos in her own womb, even if she wants to. Others say no. Pregnancy is not the same thing as conception. Pregnancy is a biological nourishment process. It's like wet nursing for a baby who cant breastfeed with her birth mom. I dont find the first argument real convincing. But the church hasnt taught anything really on the significance and meaning of being pregnant. All the teachings are about conception specifically. Of course that's because they never had to think about them separately.
  20. little2add

    Drop a word, keep a word

    Oil dependence
  21. little2add

    Embryo Adoption

    Embryo adoption is a blessed way to ensure that embryos are brought into this world to a loving, stable family and live the great life they were meant to have. bless you and your family
  22. DameAgnes

    2019 Entrances, Vows, Ordinations

    4 Carmelite Sisters of Los Angeles prepare to make first vows today. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=420829985180479
  23. Oh my glory… That was so horrendous to watch… Very disturbing. Makes me want to cry. I may have seen him speak before… He is charismatic. I'm talking about Holy Spirit charismatic… Catholic charismatic… I just saw this video in which he got up, completely unharmed, saying that the devil hates him and he thanked Our Lady for saving him. To be fair, Dust said that he was viewed as anti-traditional, not necessarily that he is… Also, who knows what the motive is. But I do think it is very unlikely that the lady pushed him off because she thought he was anti-traditional… I mean we're talking about Brazil and they are not even too many people who are traditional, in the Latin Mass type of traditional. Plus, the lady wasn't wearing a skirt or dress… If she were traditional in that sense, she wouldn't be wearing jeans to Mass. Kind of a joke but mostly true I think! Anyway, it is more likely that it is a different reason… Again, we are talking about Brazil and I could be that she didn't like him speaking out on some moral issues…
  24. Seven77

    Embryo Adoption

    The problem is: What to do about these frozen tiny human beings? I just read a quick article about embryo adoption and it is not immoral according to the Church, as you said. One of the things with that is that, it might promote the cause of IVF, but then again it is not intended to do so… Just thinking out loud to understand this… And you and your husband are in my prayers.
  25. Seven77

    4K TV. Is it worth it?

    What do you guys think? I have several DVDs that will probably look absolutely terrible on this resolution. But then I also mostly watch EWTN, plan to watch some shows through the streaming app, another streaming app, Catholic TV network I discovered recently, shalom world TV, Netflix and Amazon prime and some sports, etc.
  26. Franciscan Sisters of Christian Charity announce some of their Fall 2019 Discernment Events. The popular 'Discernment of Spirits" retreat is returning, as well as special events in Michigan and Ohio. https://fscc-calledtobe.org/vocation-discernment-events/ Or design your own special discernment retreat with guidance from a sister with a background in Spiritual Direction. As always, we're glad to meet discerning young women in the Upper Midwest or within driving distance of our Mission Sites in or nearby Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Mississippi, Nebraska and Missouri. We enjoy driving! Recently, young women have joined us from Texas, North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin. Perhaps God is also calling you to follow St. Francis. https://fscc-calledtobe.org
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