Ron Paul Supporters. Please Wake Up.

[dUSt]

[url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/ron-paul-tonight-show-birth-control-_n_1369569.html"]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/ron-paul-tonight-show-birth-control-_n_1369569.html[/url]

Ron Paul is against banning the morning after pill.

Ron Paul think abortions in the case of rape are acceptable.

This completely contradicts what should be, as Catholics, the single most important issue for us.

[IcePrincessKRS]

None of the candidates make me happy. I know so many people on the Ron Paul bandwagon, and while he's better than some in certain areas, I am still uncomfortable with him.

[Winchester]

Already aware of this, and weighed it against the alleged beliefs, but real behavior, of the other candidates.

And his support for abortions at the very early stage in which he approves of acts that will lead to abortion is due to his error in the lack of surety of pregnancy. He believes (in error) that the lack of surety permits the use of abortifacient means.

So it's not a matter of waking up, it's a matter of choosing the least flawed candidate. One who actually refuses to fund Planned Parenthood and rejects war. The rhetoric of the other candidates ends at their speeches--they will still fund abortion mills, and they will support war.

[Winchester]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2xaEd2cmU[/media]
Thomas Woods represents my beliefs well, in this video.

[Nihil Obstat]

DOCUDUMP BATTLE!!!!!!!

TAKE OFF EVERY ZIG!

(FOR GREAT JUSTICE!)



(All media links at links I provided.)

[url="http://www.tomwoods.com/ronpaul/"]http://www.tomwoods.com/ronpaul/[/url]


[b] In Defense of Ron Paul[/b]


[font=MinionProRegular][size=4][background=transparent][size=4][background=transparent]I prepared this short resource page in tandem with my April 11, 2011 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-za39sRerRA"]video[/url] on the treatment of Ron Paul in many establishment outlets, and I’ve since referred to it in other videos. In particular, I’m focusing on the writing and speaking I’ve done (or, in the case of David Stockman, that other people have done) on monetary policy and foreign policy, often expressly in defense of Dr. Paul, since those were the areas mentioned in the [url="http://www.salon.com/news/2012_elections/?story=/politics/war_room/2011/04/08/south_carolina_debate"]Salon article[/url] I referenced in my April 11 video.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][size=4][u][background=transparent][b]GOLD, THE FED, AND MONEY[/b][/background][/u][/size][/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][url="http://mises.org/daily/5174/DiStefanos-Federal-Reserve-Sunshine-and-Lollipops"]Life With the Fed: Sunshine and Lollipops?[/url]
Here I take on many of the standard claims: why, before we had the Federal Reserve System our economy was subject to wild swings of boom and bust, but since the creation of the Fed everything has been super, etc.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][url="http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods166.html"]Smashed Yglesias[/url]
In the course of replying to left-wing blogger Matt Yglesias (who, like Salon, also dismisses people outside the Biden/Romney spectrum as “cranks”), I shed some light on the true history and record of the Fed.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent]For the crucial Austrian theory of the business cycle, see my [url="http://www.tomwoods.com/learn-austrian-economics/"]Learn Austrian Economics[/url]resource page.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][url="http://mises.org/daily/5113/The-End-of-Sound-Money-and-the-Triumph-of-Crony-Capitalism"]David Stockman, The End of Sound Money and the Triumph of Crony Capitalism[/url]
Ronald Reagan’s budget director takes on the myths of TARP, the Fed, and gold.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][url="http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods111.html"]The Free Market and the Financial Crisis[/url]
A very brief overview of the Fed’s role in the 2008 financial crisis. For more such articles, see my [url="http://www.tomwoods.com/articles"]articles page[/url].[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent]Here are some related videos:[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][b]Ron Paul, the Federal Reserve, and the Third America[/b][/background][/size]

[size=4][background=transparent][b]Smashing Myths and Restoring Sound Money[/b][/background][/size]

[size=4][background=transparent][b]Monetary Lessons from America’s Past[/b][/background][/size]

[size=4][background=transparent][b]Gold and the Good Guys[/b][/background][/size]

[size=4][background=transparent]Finally, the chapter on the Fed in my 2011 book [i][url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596981415?ie=UTF8&tag=thomacom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1596981415"]Rollback[/url][/i] takes apart all the major claims its supporters have tried to make for it. [i][url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596985879?ie=UTF8&tag=thomacom-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1596985879"]Meltdown[/url][/i], my [i]New York Times[/i] bestseller from 2009 that featured a [url="http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul507.html"]foreword[/url] by Congressman Paul himself, described the role of the Fed in bringing on the financial panic of 2008 — which, predictably enough, has been blamed on the free market.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][size=4][u][background=transparent][b]WAR AND NONINTERVENTION[/b][/background][/u][/size][/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][url="http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods69.html"]Do Conservatives Hate Their Own Founder?[/url]
Here’s what the great conservative Russell Kirk had to say about foreign policy. It sounds nothing like what you will hear from most neoconservative radio talk show hosts, to the point that many people would not recognize it as conservatism. But that is precisely what it is.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][url="http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods77.html"]No Patronizing, No Sloganeering[/url]
Ron Paul tells the truth about our government’s foreign policy. And it isn’t much better than our government’s domestic policy. It’s the same liars and crooks, after all.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][url="http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods152.html"]Cobden on Freedom, Peace, and Trade[/url]
Why nonintervention is a strategic and moral imperative.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent][b]We Who Dared to Say No to War[/b]
On the bipartisan, cross-ideological opposition to war throughout American history.[/background][/size]

[size=4][background=transparent]Be sure, finally, to read the man in his own words, especially in [i][url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0912453001/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thomacom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0912453001"]A Foreign Policy of Freedom[/url][/i],[i][url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446537527/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thomacom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0446537527"]The Revolution: A Manifesto[/url][/i] (a #1 [i]New York Times[/i] bestseller), and his forthcoming [i][url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/145550145X/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thomacom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=145550145X"]Liberty Defined[/url][/i].[/background][/size][/background][/size][/font]





[url="http://www.tomwoods.com/catholicsforpaul/"]http://www.tomwoods....tholicsforpaul/[/url]


[b] Catholics and Ron Paul[/b]


[font=MinionProRegular][size=4][background=transparent][size=4][background=transparent]Let’s kick off this page with my [url="http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods83.html"]Open Letter to the Catholic Community[/url] from 2007. The names have changed (e.g., no more Giuliani or Fred Thompson), but the ideas remain.[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent]Dr. Paul’s speech at the Values Voters Summit is very helpful:[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent]My Two-Minute Case for Ron Paul:[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent]My video on foreign policy:[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent]My video on Santorum and Paul:[/background][/size]
[size=4][background=transparent]In addition, the resources I assembled for evangelical radio host Steve Deace may also be useful. [url="http://www.tomwoods.com/steve"]Click here for those[/url].[/background][/size][/background][/size][/font]

Edited March 22, 2012 by Nihil Obstat

[dUSt]

tl;dw
and
tl;dr

[Winchester]

We should post pictures of our tinfoil hats, too.

[Nihil Obstat]

Also I remember when that interview came out. I didn't think it was clear, at least from how it was reported, as to whether or not they were talking about pre- or post-fertilization. The interview question, the answer, and the reporting seemed to have been spun, skewed, and mis-represented. Basically every variable made the issue less clear. I've yet to see a truly clarifying treatment of that, and there's less than zero chance of getting one from the Huffington Post.

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1332439030' post='2405406']
We should post pictures of our tinfoil hats, too.
[/quote]


ZOMG, tin-foil hat party! You go first; I can't take a picture while I'm at school.

[Winchester]

When Ron Paul does a push up, he does not push the world down. He just does a push up. Ron Paul has no interest in pushing the world around.

[IcePrincessKRS]

He still makes me uncomfortable. I get the whole "lesser evil/least flawed" reasoning. I'm just not happy about him.

[BigJon16]

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There are some minor cuss words in this, but its pretty funny...


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igQlbesF0zA[/media]

[Papist]

Ron Paul in a nutshell

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[XIX]

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1332437526' post='2405390']
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Ron Paul is against banning the morning after pill.

Ron Paul think abortions in the case of rape are acceptable.

This completely contradicts what should be, as [s]Catholics[/s], people who make decisions based on common sense instead of what people tell us are the important issues, the single most important issue for us.
[/quote]
I didn't really fix that for you so much as I created a variant that should be applicable to non-Catholics. Shoot, you don't have to believe in traunsubstantiation or the Immaculate Conception to understand why abortion might be a very important issue.

[4588686]

Ron Paul couldn't end abortion even if he wanted to. Abortion is a right guaranteed by the Constitution's Privacy protections. Maybe you dislike that but that has been the consistent ruling of the court for almost half a century now. Roe v. Wade occurred under the Burger court (nominally conservative) and was continually reaffirmed under the Rehnquist court (actually conservative). It still has yet to be overturned despite the current USSC being the most conservative in half a century. The President does not have the power to end abortion. Neither does the congress. Most of the anti-abortion legislation of substance (that is, legislative attempts to bully women into conforming to Christian attitudes concerning abortion) is occurring at the state level, where the USSC has given state government more discretion in attempting to hamper women from accessing abortion services.

Why Catholics continue to allow the republican party to dupe them into believing that any substantive anti-abortion action is going to take place on the federal level is beyond me. They have, however, done a beaver dam fine job of convincing many Catholics to turn their back on the social justice aspects of their faith in the irrational hope that somehow by electing a pro-life President they are conforming to the moral demands of their Church, despite the President's impotence on this matter.

[Winchester]

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