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Why I now reject climate politics nearly entirely

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fides' Jack
On 9/30/2019 at 4:56 AM, BarbaraTherese said:

We can only do what we can and in this case,what one believes to be the right thing to do.........then leave the rest to God.  What more can one do than that which he/she is able?

Most times if you enter into Google for example "Is such and such a sound resource", it will throw up some reviews - then the task is to ensure insofar as we can if the reviews themselves are sound resources.  I did this with the website you quoted:

We need to make up our own minds.  We can only do what we can.  Then leave the rest to God.

We can do nothing beyond what we can do.  For some it might be minimal for others it may be much more.  But The Lord is in the driver's seat,in that of individuals and in that of the whole world, our Doctrine of Divine Providence.

What we believe is not something we acknowledge in our heads as truth, without internalising and living it out in our lives.

V - God Carries Out His Plan: DIVINE PROVIDENCE (Catholic Catechism)  #302 - #314.

I am wondering, Jack, if you have heard what I said HEREpreviously.  If we humans are doing some damage to the environment, then we must cease.  The Lord has appointed us as stewards over the whole of His Creation, which "And God looked upon all that He had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning— the sixth day. " Genesis Ch1

Now if we are damaging our environment, we are acting against what is very good.  Acting in fact as a destructive agent of the very good.  We all probably know what that is called.  And what is contrary to God in any way comes from the evil one.

Yeah, I heard you.  And that's why I asked for any evidence at all that we are damaging the environment.  I agree with the premise that we are "appointed stewards" of creation.  And also about the responsibility that espouses on us.  If you are arguing that we should put a higher priority on that responsibility than to our responsibility to protect life (which I don't think you are), I would disagree.  I don't believe that (at least in developed countries - China is obviously doing a TON of damage) we are doing anything significantly harmful to the environment.

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fides' Jack
On 10/13/2019 at 8:33 PM, Gary david said:

 

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Not sure what the point is with this one.  I don't think anyone ever said that climate change isn't happening (at least, if they have, it's a tiny, tiny minority of people).  Even people like me have no problems saying the climate is changing - and I always have.  However, global warming is not the same thing.  And one photo without any context at all means literally nothing...

Sorry, if this is a joke, I don't get it.

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Ice_nine

The Earth is pretty sweet. It is a great gift from God. It is profound.

I think we have lost our God-centered connection to his creation, and neo-pagan worship has rushed to fill the void. That doesn't mean respect, and dare I say, a form of reverence before nature is oh my gooooodness BLASPHEMY. I don't think it's wise to dismiss anthropomorphic climate change on these grounds.

That's why I really have reactionary movements. It's just overcompensation. yugck.

 

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fides' Jack
On 10/23/2019 at 12:25 PM, Ice_nine said:

I don't think it's wise to dismiss anthropomorphic climate change on these grounds.

I haven't heard of anybody doing that, ever.

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Ice_nine
5 hours ago, fides' Jack said:

I haven't heard of anybody doing that, ever.

Consciously, maybe. But no one is really all that transparent to themselves. You do not believe that maybe a fear of neo-paganism in an increasingly secular world might be clouding your assessment on the matter?

Maybe not then. I don't think it's a far-fetched analysis that that's what some folks might be doing.

 

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