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The Australian state Victoria recently passed a very evil law. It is supposed to make so called conversion therapy illegal. But in reality the law makes it illegal to discourage sexual deviancy. Has this been big news for Catholics? I did not see anything about it here. I have spoke with some Muslim lawyers from Australia and they have given me examples of what this bill would cover. Example 1 - if a mosque hosted a meeting for Muslim men or women tempted by homosexuality who wanted to avoid sin. Example 2 - if a  gay Muslim came to an imam and asked him advice about sexual temptation and the imam told him to pray and fast. 

This is very disturbing news. I fear that western countries will attempt to outdo each other with these sorts of laws. This law claims that religious leaders can outline a stance opposed to homosexuality if it is kept generic. But in reality it is a sword at the neck of religious leaders who dare oppose this agenda. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-04/victorian-gay-conversion-bill-what-is-it/13116998

 

 

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There is a similar law and scenario here in the UK. The Church calls gay people to chastity, though they don't require a gay person to take on any therapy to become straight and attracted to the opposite sex. That said, yes, there are some in Catholic circles questioning whether these laws would pave the way to restrict religious freedom, i.e. to what extent the refusal to actively affirm modern gender and sexuality theories would be regarded as hate speech. I think your concerns on whether they will keep moving the goalposts are justified.

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There is a somewhat similar law in many European States, forbidding conversion therapy and any force on minors to "change their sexual orientation or gender identity". Given the harm those kind of "therapies" cause, all too often for religious reasons of the families, it is completely right these laws exist.  

No one forces any denomination or whatever to support homosexuality, but just forbids any kind of organisation to tell young folks they have to change. 

 

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It looks like another stepping stobe in cancel culture.

It is not sufficient for non catholics to live their own lives free.  They aim to remove any opposition to their point of view - even silencing an opposing voice is now dwemed insufficient...  whatever point of view that differs from their own must be removed, eliminated and in no way tolerated or allowed to exist.

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This is a wider phenomenon in today's society. You can't just say you agree with what mother church teaches us because doing that is not PC. I study Catholic theology and even there I can't just come out and delicately say: 'yes I agree with the standpoint of the church on the matter of homosexuality' for example, because by doing that I could possibly hurt other classmates who are gay and/or transgender. I study CATHOLIC theology for crying out loud. 

As a sidenote; it is the only college approved by Rome in my entire country, yet there are so many peculiar things going on it might as well not be. 

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6 hours ago, Ash Wednesday said:

There is a similar law and scenario here in the UK. The Church calls gay people to chastity, though they don't require a gay person to take on any therapy to become straight and attracted to the opposite sex. That said, yes, there are some in Catholic circles questioning whether these laws would pave the way to restrict religious freedom, i.e. to what extent the refusal to actively affirm modern gender and sexuality theories would be regarded as hate speech. I think your concerns on whether they will keep moving the goalposts are justified.

And this law makes it illegal for parents not to support a child who wants to change their sex. It was marketed as being against conversion therapy but it goes way beyond that. Prayer and fasting is the advice for any Muslim who wants to avoid sexual sin. It comes directly from a hadith and is not supposed to make them straight. But if an Imam gave that advice to a gay Muslim it would be illegal. The same would be true for a Christian religious leader.

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