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Calhoun's Universe 25 - true or false?


Didacus

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On 9/13/2021 at 9:42 AM, Didacus said:

Anyone familiar with Universe 25 experiment?

https://www.victorpest.com/articles/what-humans-can-learn-from-calhouns-rodent-utopia

I would see direct similarities with this experiment and humans in 'modern' and 'rich' society.

 

23 hours ago, Didacus said:

Arci - seems that the majority of what you post circle around global warming...

What would be your thoughts on universe 25 from a social point of view?

 

I've always been interested in trying to understand the big picture,... and as I see things, man made climate is humanities biggest problem

this is because life on earth has evolved to live w/ in a narrow specific set of conditions AND when the conditions change dramatically there will be big problems

consider the average human body has a normal temperature of 98.6 degrees,... 

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/body-temperature-what-is-and-isnt-normal/

if the average human body temp is just a couple of degrees warmer (i.e. a fever) and the fever persists,... it is a sign of a medical infection

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/326175#causes

since you brought up the topic of experiment 25,... as I see things the "social" aspect you focus on, is actually just another symptom of a much bigger "infection" problem

IOW the universe experiment 25 is a small scale model of what actually happened to the people who lived AND basically killed themselves off after the population grew too large for the amount of space/resources-on-hand

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as I see things if the objective is avoid repeating what happened in the universe experiment 25 AND on easter island,... it is necessary to first understand what the problem is

consider the rodents in experiment 25 AND the humans on easter island,... one reason both these groups walked of a cliff (IOW killed them selves off) is because they were not aware of their surrounds

I mention this because one talent I developed in pilot training is "situational awareness" and a belief in the OODA loop (which was developed by the military to keep pilots from being killed off)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop

point being if humanity wants to stay alive and avoid what happened to universe 25 AND to the people on easter island,... as I mentioned the first step is understand what the problem is

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as I see things after attending a "catholic" science and faith conference a few years back

https://shop.catholic.com/catholic-answers-conference-2018-faith-science-mp3/

and lurking on various internet forums to see what others have to say,... sadly IMHO catholics and other people who place an importances in faith, don't have the scientific "talents" nor an interest in the basic science,... nor see how the science relates to basic "catholic" theology (which is why I outlined how the issues are related in the thread about St Aquinas)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, ArciMoto said:

... sadly IMHO catholics and other people who place an importances in faith, don't have the scientific "talents" nor an interest in the basic science,... nor see how the science relates to basic "catholic" theology (which is why I outlined how the issues are related in the thread about St Aquinas.

 

 

 

 

There is no contradiction between faith and science.

PS - I am a professional engineer, no trouble with facts or science here. 

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