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this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever seen...

it's been assumed for centuries that Michelangelo was a homosexual, should we bleach the Sistene Chapel?

just because a person struggles (or even currently gives into their struggle) with same-sex attraction doesn't make everything that they've ever created or been involved with an inherent evil.

quit throwing stones...

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[quote name='ryanmeyersmusic' date='Jul 10 2004, 11:52 PM'] this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever seen...

it's been assumed for centuries that Michelangelo was a homosexual, should we bleach the Sistene Chapel?

just because a person struggles (or even currently gives into their struggle) with same-sex attraction doesn't make everything that they've ever created or been involved with an inherent evil.

quit throwing stones... [/quote]
He is gay. His music is gay. Worse yet, his music is some of the most insipid carp infecting the Church today. Quit throwing stones? His lifetsyle has infected his work.

Michelangelo? The claims have never been proven, nor has there been much proof offered. Even so, if he was, his work never showed it. I'm afraid the same cannot be said for Schutte. Like I said before, I am not surprised by this news and it explains alot.

Quit throwing stones? What stones? Fire away...

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[quote name='pionono' date='Jul 11 2004, 12:06 AM'] He is gay. His music is gay. [/quote]
we have come so far... I guess that goes for Michelangelo too with all those paintings of necked-folks :shootme:

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Personally, I don't like Schutte's music. Doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he's gay, it has to do with my opinion that he's a rotten composer. Perhaps a swell lyricist, but I want to shoot myself everytime I have to sing one of his little ditties.

But, some people obviously like him. I think it's a shame that he's gay. I am concerned about the double standard, though. I know organists, music directors and other people in church ministries who have been removed from their jobs because they are openly homosexual. Why should Dan Schutte be any different?

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Here I am is one of the most obnoxious songs we are forced to sing. It doesn't really have anything to do with the author's orientation. However, it is a valid question to ask if someone living in a relationship contrary to God's law should be filling our hymnals.

peace...

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[quote name='immaculata' date='Jul 11 2004, 12:40 AM'] I am concerned about the double standard, though. I know organists, music directors and other people in church ministries who have been removed from their jobs because they are openly homosexual. Why should Dan Schutte be any different? [/quote]
Well he's not a priest anymore. How can the songs of a single santioned priest be thrown out when a large number of our hymns are actually protestant - esp. written during moments in history when protestants really really didn't like Catholics. Today we sing them because there has been some sort of reconciliation and a movement for ecumenism - which I actually sort of agree with reservations - this is why I don't think the argument works. Did he write Eagle's Wings?

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I don't have that bad habit of leaving right after Communion anymore... but if the communion hymn is "Here I Am Lord", I'm sorry, I'm bailin'.

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Besides the fact that this is gossip, and that's a sin:

Here's the pages you better start ripping out of your hymnals...

A
A Time Will Come For Singing
All My Days
All One People
As I Have Done For You
B
Before The Sun Burned Bright
Behold The Wood
Be My Refuge
Blessed Are You
Blessed Are You (Response)
Blessed Are You (Baptism Acclamation)
Blest Be The Lord
C
Child Of God's Great Love
Christ, Circle Round Us
City Of God
Come To The River
Come Unto Me All Who Are Weary
Come With Me Into The Fields
Come With Praise
D
Dayenu Litany
E
Eucharistic Acclamation
Ever On My Lips
F
For The Beauty
G
Give Thanks To The Lord
Glory And Praise To Our God
Glory In The Cross
Glory To God
Glory To God (Mass of God's Promise)
God Of Our Life
God With Us
God Of Love
Gospel Acclamation (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
Gospel Acclamation (Mass of God's Promise)
Great Amen (Mass of God's Promise)
Great Amen
Great Amen (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
H
Happy Is The Man
Here I Am, Lord
Holy
Holy (Mass of God's Promise)
Holy (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
Holy
Holy Darkness
Holy Is God/Pange Lingua
Hosanna To The Son Of David
How Long, O Lord
I
I Cry To You
I Found The Treasure
If The Lord Does Not Build
InThe Morning
Invocations To Jesus Christ
J
Jesus Christ Is Risen Today
Join In The Dance
L
Lamb Of God Litany (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
Lamb Of God Litany (Mass of God's Promise)
Lenten Gospel Acclamation (Mass of God's Promise)
Let All Who Thirst
Let the Valleys Be Raised
Let Us Go To The Altar
Like Cedars
Like The Deer
Litany Of Saints
Lives Brought Together
Lord, Have Mercy
Lover Of Us All
M
Mass Of God's Promise
May Love Be Ours
Meadows And Mountains
Memorial Acclamation (Mass of God's Promise)
Memorial Acclamation (St. Louis Jeusit Mass)
Memorial Acclamation
Most Holy Night
Mountains And Hills
My Soul Thirsts
O
Only This I Want
On This Most Holy Day
P
Pilgrim Companions
Profession Of Faith
Psalm 150
R
River Of Glory
S
See The Lilies
Send Us Your Spirit
Servant Song
Sing A New Song
Sing, O Sing
So The Love Of God
Song Of Farewell
Song Of Mary
Song Of Praise
T
Table Of Plenty
This Is The Day
Though The Mountains May Fall
V
Valleys Of Green
W
Wake From Your Sleep
We Beseech You (Solemn Intercessions)
We Sing The Savior's Glory
We Will Journey In Faith
What You Hear In The Dark
Where Love Is Found
With Drums And Dancing
With Merry Dancing
Y
Yahweh The Faithful One
You Are Near

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[quote name='pionono' date='Jul 10 2004, 04:27 PM']
"'Here I am, Lord. Is it I, Lord? I have heard you calling in the night. I will go Lord if you lead me. I will hold your people in my heart.'

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Personally, I've never made the connection between this song and the "intrinsic disorders" rights movement, but if the author REALLY took the words "I will go Lord if you lead me" he would realize that the Lord would lead people OUT of homosexual lifestyles, not into them.

Another thing: since Schutte is/was in the Jesuits, would the royalties go to him personally or to the Jesuits?

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i'm getting "pionono" who is new, confused with "Pio Nono" who is a Church Scholar. At first I was a little freaked out, but now that I know who's who, well, it's still confusing.

BTW, I love "Here I Am, Lord".

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:weep: :cry: I wanted to cry when I read this thread! How awful that just becouse God made this man gay people want to take his music out of church. Yes having a partner as a gay person is wrong but it is still no reason to have this hate for him. There are so many other people who have done such worse things yet we don't condem them. This is really a personal problem between him and God, he is sinning but how many of us sin also. I say the one without sin can throw the first stone! This topic really makes me sad, I thought we were supposed to be loving and accepting! :angry:
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[quote name='ryanmeyersmusic' date='Jul 11 2004, 11:58 AM'] Besides the fact that this is gossip, and that's a sin:

Here's the pages you better start ripping out of your hymnals...

A
A Time Will Come For Singing
All My Days
All One People
As I Have Done For You
B
Before The Sun Burned Bright
Behold The Wood
Be My Refuge
Blessed Are You
Blessed Are You (Response)
Blessed Are You (Baptism Acclamation)
Blest Be The Lord
C
Child Of God's Great Love
Christ, Circle Round Us
City Of God
Come To The River
Come Unto Me All Who Are Weary
Come With Me Into The Fields
Come With Praise
D
Dayenu Litany
E
Eucharistic Acclamation
Ever On My Lips
F
For The Beauty
G
Give Thanks To The Lord
Glory And Praise To Our God
Glory In The Cross
Glory To God
Glory To God (Mass of God's Promise)
God Of Our Life
God With Us
God Of Love
Gospel Acclamation (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
Gospel Acclamation (Mass of God's Promise)
Great Amen (Mass of God's Promise)
Great Amen
Great Amen (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
H
Happy Is The Man
Here I Am, Lord
Holy
Holy (Mass of God's Promise)
Holy (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
Holy
Holy Darkness
Holy Is God/Pange Lingua
Hosanna To The Son Of David
How Long, O Lord
I
I Cry To You
I Found The Treasure
If The Lord Does Not Build
InThe Morning
Invocations To Jesus Christ
J
Jesus Christ Is Risen Today
Join In The Dance
L
Lamb Of God Litany (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
Lamb Of God Litany (Mass of God's Promise)
Lenten Gospel Acclamation (Mass of God's Promise)
Let All Who Thirst
Let the Valleys Be Raised
Let Us Go To The Altar
Like Cedars
Like The Deer
Litany Of Saints
Lives Brought Together
Lord, Have Mercy
Lover Of Us All
M
Mass Of God's Promise
May Love Be Ours
Meadows And Mountains
Memorial Acclamation (Mass of God's Promise)
Memorial Acclamation (St. Louis Jeusit Mass)
Memorial Acclamation
Most Holy Night
Mountains And Hills
My Soul Thirsts
O
Only This I Want
On This Most Holy Day
P
Pilgrim Companions
Profession Of Faith
Psalm 150
R
River Of Glory
S
See The Lilies
Send Us Your Spirit
Servant Song
Sing A New Song
Sing, O Sing
So The Love Of God
Song Of Farewell
Song Of Mary
Song Of Praise
T
Table Of Plenty
This Is The Day
Though The Mountains May Fall
V
Valleys Of Green
W
Wake From Your Sleep
We Beseech You (Solemn Intercessions)
We Sing The Savior's Glory
We Will Journey In Faith
What You Hear In The Dark
Where Love Is Found
With Drums And Dancing
With Merry Dancing
Y
Yahweh The Faithful One
You Are Near [/quote]
but i love too many of these songs! :sadder:
were they all done by that guy :huh:

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