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I have prayed the office in Latin in community and on my own, and all I can say is that once I experienced praying it in Latin, I loved it so much I never went back to praying it in the vernacular.  Sorry I  can't say much more than this.

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I have prayed the office in Latin in community and on my own, and all I can say is that once I experienced praying it in Latin, I loved it so much I never went back to praying it in the vernacular.  Sorry I  can't say much more than this.

 

That's alright! Actually, this is exactly what I was hoping fellow VSers would share. I am glad to hear that you were pleased with the Latin and would not go back. Is it because personally you feel an increased reverence? A heightened sense of mystery? I am guessing you did not fully comprehend the Latin when you started. Did you find that this did not inhibit prayer?

 

Perhaps I should start a new thread.. Thank you for your response, inperpetuity!

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Can someone who feels called or has discerned with a cloistered community that uses Latin extensively share how this impacts your experience of prayer in the religious life? I hope I am expressing myself clearly-I feel I might be making little sense!

Obviously many feel more comfortable and prayerful praying the Office, etc in the vernacular, but I would appreciate the experience of those who feel drawn to the Latin. Thank you!

Well, there's a difference between the OF and EF office in Latin.  I've never done the OF in Latin, only the 1962 breviary.  Then again, there would be a big difference between the monastic diurnal in Latin and the Carmelite rite office.  

 

That being said, I much prefer the EF office to the OF.  It's longer, has retained hymns and such.  Actually, I didn't like the longer office at first, but now I don't mind it.  I don't pray it as regularly as I should, but it's now my go-to.  I decided to pray it because then I wouldn't have to mix calendars between the OF and the EF since I attend the EF Mass.

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Here's a thread on TL that overlaps with this: http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/135407-your-office-is-calling-learning-the-do/

 

I pray the pre-Conciliar Benedictine Office, which is slightly different to the Breviarium Romanum (the EF equivalent of the Liturgy of the Hours). Switched a few years ago and never went back.

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inperpetuity

That's alright! Actually, this is exactly what I was hoping fellow VSers would share. I am glad to hear that you were pleased with the Latin and would not go back. Is it because personally you feel an increased reverence? A heightened sense of mystery? I am guessing you did not fully comprehend the Latin when you started. Did you find that this did not inhibit prayer?

 

Perhaps I should start a new thread.. Thank you for your response, inperpetuity!

No, your right I did not comprehend it but somehow my soul did.  Quite the opposite surprisingly, it definitely deepened it!  I have used only the pre-VII Benedictine Diurnal and Roman Breviary.  Your welcome, Poverelli :)

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there have been a lot of updates lately!

 

there's a way to see those pictures bigger (is that correct grammar? lol) 

 

open the image link in a new window like this, http://www.oakdiocese.org/ministries/religious-communities-in-the-diocese/IMG_0585.JPG/@@images/image/mini

 

now cut off the part after JPG and get this, http://www.oakdiocese.org/ministries/religious-communities-in-the-diocese/IMG_0585.JPG  :like:

 

 

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exciting! just posted there http://carmelites-of-canyon.blogspot.com/

 
The Sisters will begin the physical move into their new home 
in Kensington during the week of  November 17
The Masses from 11/17 to 11/20 will be in Canyon.

This web page will be moved/renamed on November 21 to 
carmelites-of-kensington.blogspot.com

 

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wow, look there was an open house at Kensington in May, http://tlmofsf.smugmug.com/Pontifical-Low-Mass-EF-for-the/

 

p.s. adding this quote to give them credit :like:

 

While any of our photos and videos may be freely posted on other blogs and websites, we are only requesting an acknowledgement / credit to be given to the Traditional Latin Mass Society of San Francisco with a link to our website http://sanctatrinitasunusdeus.com).

 

 

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two clothings at Canyon :like: one was this month, one was in August

 

http://hand-maidwithlove.blogspot.com/2014/08/eggs-travaganza.html

 

http://hand-maidwithlove.blogspot.com/2014/11/good-habit-bad-habit.html

 

I've never heard of it referred to as an Imposition of the Habit, and it isn't written this way in an OCD ceremonies booklet I have from the 1930's. It's called the Investiture Ceremony. But I have heard of an imposition of the Brown Scapular, and since this is their Habit, it makes sense :)

 

 

 

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Praised be Jesus Christ! Just discovered this awesome thread - I am going to visit the Carmel of Jesus, Mary and Joseph in Valparaiso in a week and was wondering if anyone had any advice for what to bring? I wanted to bring some sort of gift but wasn't sure what would be appropriate, especially because I am visiting a couple days before the season of Lent begins, which I have heard is very austere there.

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Praised be Jesus Christ! Just discovered this amesome thread - I am going to visit the Carmel of Jesus, Mary and Joseph in Valparaiso in a week and was wondering if anyone had any advice for what to bring? I wanted to bring some sort of gift but wasn't sure what would be appropriate, especially because I am visiting a couple days before the season of Lent begins, which I have heard is very austere there.

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

 

Fresh fruit and/or veggies could be good.  A card with a cash offering that they may use for their needs plus a spiritual bouquet because nuns needs prayers too.

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Seconding the fruit and veg. In winter, that's a fabulous treat :) and it's always gone down extra well whenever I've given some to a community.

 

(Welcome!)

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