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Re: custody of the eyes....

It's very much a cultural thing. In the U.S. it is certainly [u]not[/u] a sign of humility to walk about eyes downcast.... in other countries it is the appropriate thing to do when receiving correction or reprimand, or when you feel embarrassed about something.

As a religious practice it is fabulous within monastic walls as a means to keep / guard recollection. In the world it does not serve much as there is much that we [u]must[/u] keep our eyes open for in order to simply be safe (there was no fear of being run over by a car in times past). Where it can be abundantly helpful... in a modified way (that is, guarding where we look, rather than specifically on the floor) it in the grocery lines.... there are so many things there in the tabloids that we just do not need to see/know. I would say even our hunger for knowledge about everything and anything that any public person does is perhaps a logical extension of custody of the eyes for those of us "in the world".

As St. Francis de Sales would advise...... it makes sense for a monastic to live like a monastic but not for a person in the world to live like a monastic. A holy Christian yes... but each vocation (and vocation in transition as we discern) has its own beauty and set of maxims to help us on the road to union with God.

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Re: custody of the eyes....

It's very much a cultural thing. In the U.S. it is certainly [u]not[/u] a sign of humility to walk about eyes downcast.... in other countries it is the appropriate thing to do when receiving correction or reprimand, or when you feel embarrassed about something.

As a religious practice it is fabulous within monastic walls as a means to keep / guard recollection. In the world it does not serve much as there is much that we [u]must[/u] keep our eyes open for in order to simply be safe (there was no fear of being run over by a car in times past). Where it can be abundantly helpful... in a modified way (that is, guarding where we look, rather than specifically on the floor) it in the grocery lines.... there are so many things there in the tabloids that we just do not need to see/know. I would say even our hunger for knowledge about everything and anything that any public person does is perhaps a logical extension of custody of the eyes for those of us "in the world".

As St. Francis de Sales would advise...... it makes sense for a monastic to live like a monastic but not for a person in the world to live like a monastic. A holy Christian yes... but each vocation (and vocation in transition as we discern) has its own beauty and set of maxims to help us on the road to union with God.
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Nicely put! Also the chaplain of our convent used to tell us in keeping custody of our eyes, when we would go out on apostate to not look at all the restaurants/stores we used to frequent. It would increase a desire of the past, which was supposed to be dead to us. Oh that definitely was a time of purification. He also related it to curiosity, to mortify ourselves by not reading the news (sometimes mother would put out a Washington Post for us to read) or waiting to read a letter from home. When we would mortify ourselves in these small ways, when temptations rolled around in regards to our eyes we were much more ready to combat that temptation. Same rang true for all the senses... It is much hard to keep custody of the eyes in the world!!

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[quote name='mantellata' timestamp='1348351570' post='2485502']
Re: custody of the eyes....

It's very much a cultural thing. In the U.S. it is certainly [u]not[/u] a sign of humility to walk about eyes downcast.... in other countries it is the appropriate thing to do when receiving correction or reprimand, or when you feel embarrassed about something.

As a religious practice it is fabulous within monastic walls as a means to keep / guard recollection. In the world it does not serve much as there is much that we [u]must[/u] keep our eyes open for in order to simply be safe (there was no fear of being run over by a car in times past). Where it can be abundantly helpful... in a modified way (that is, guarding where we look, rather than specifically on the floor) it in the grocery lines.... there are so many things there in the tabloids that we just do not need to see/know. I would say even our hunger for knowledge about everything and anything that any public person does is perhaps a logical extension of custody of the eyes for those of us "in the world".

As St. Francis de Sales would advise...... it makes sense for a monastic to live like a monastic but not for a person in the world to live like a monastic. A holy Christian yes... but each vocation (and vocation in transition as we discern) has its own beauty and set of maxims to help us on the road to union with God.
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I totally agree, although I still wish more people would practice it, even in a modified way as you say we need in our modern times.

Every time someone comes in late to Mass and everyone in the church turns around to look at them, I wish I could telepathically send them information on custody of the eyes. Also when people read the tabloids in line, which you mentioned. It is so unnecessary. Custody of the eyes could really benefit Christian Americans.. We are so hungry to know everything about everyone. Not only are we hungry for it, but we often feel entitled to all this information.

In the US though, the old-fashioned 'custody' ie looking down at the ground is seen as a lack of confidence rather than a sign of virtue. I think a lot of people think it is out-dated for this reason, not realizing that it can be adapted to our way of life.

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You are Sr. J look like you could related! :) Which sister is juggling? Is is Sr. Annie?
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LOL u really think so?? I love her sooo much! And no its Sr Gianna

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I guess she wasn't exactly a nun quite yet (Just wait a few hours....) but here's a beautiful picture I just found:
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I found it here: [url="http://www.poorclarecolettines-cleveland.org/vocation.htm"]http://www.poorclarecolettines-cleveland.org/vocation.htm[/url] which is a beautiful series of pages if any of you want to take a look.

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[quote name='Christina Thérèse' timestamp='1348987359' post='2488356']
I guess she wasn't exactly a nun quite yet (Just wait a few hours....) but here's a beautiful picture I just found:
[img]http://www.poorclarecolettines-cleveland.org/img/gallery/IMG-1_0008.jpg[/img]
I found it here: [url="http://www.poorclarecolettines-cleveland.org/vocation.htm"]http://www.poorclare...rg/vocation.htm[/url] which is a beautiful series of pages if any of you want to take a look.
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That is seriously beautiful! :love:

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NonNovi: These are beautiful photos. What was the occasion and which community are they?
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The Petites Soeurs de la Consolation (a French community) on their annual vacation :)

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I SEE SR. EMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :heart:

And the Sisters of Life can juggle...YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

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