Myers Desecrates The Eucharist

[lilac_angel]

*raises hand* count me in =)

[dominicansoul]

I believe the Church needs to do something to make reparation for this sacrilege. I am for fasting and praying! Count me in as well!

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Selah' post='1607937' date='Jul 24 2008, 09:18 PM']I propose that is what we do then.

Who's with me?[/quote]
I have a nasty GI condition, which means I have to eat...I'll pray a whole Divine Mercy Chaplet for him for a week in lieu.
Edit:
Wait...define fasting? (I'm still just getting settled into this whole Catholic thing )

Edited July 25, 2008 by USAirwaysIHS

[Selah]

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
[quote name='CatholicDefender' post='1607920' date='Jul 24 2008, 08:06 PM']All I have to say is that he is lucky that he is on the other side of the country from me. Catholics need to rise up with force against heretics like him.[/quote]
Um, no. see below.

[quote name='Selah' post='1607937' date='Jul 24 2008, 08:18 PM']I propose that is what we do then.

Who's with me?[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
[url="http://catholic-teaching.org/"]this blog has a good point[/url]:
[quote]But I will encourage you to make August a month of prayer for PZ Myers. But let’s not just pray for his conversion. Let’s be a little more daring. Let’s pray that he will become our next St. Paul — not an the Apostle to the Gentiles, but an Apostle of the Eucharist.

This isn’t as odd as it might sound. One theme running throughout the lives of the saints, espeically saints that lives worldly lives before their conversion, is this: Their greatest sins became the foundation of their holiness. St. Paul persecuted the Church, and so God used him to build up the Church. St. Augustine lived a life of fleshly pleasure, so God made him the one to clarify the Christian view of conjugal love and made him the model of acesticism. St. Ignatius of Loyola longed to be a military man, and so God made him the head of, at one time, one of the most influential religious orders in the world. And little Therese Martin was extremely selfish in the smallest things of life, so God used her to teach the world how to become extraordinarily holy by giving Jesus the smallest of our acts.[/quote]

details at the blog. i think it's a great idea.

[lilac_angel]

I have been feeling very weak/faint and not very good lately, so I probably won't be able to do a full-blown fast at the moment, but I will do a lite fast + uber heavy prayers. As soon as I feel that I can physically handle a more heavy fast, I will. Though I suppose there are other ways of fasting, too - not just from food, but from forms of entertainment, etc...

[lilac_angel]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1607945' date='Jul 24 2008, 09:23 PM']I have a nasty GI condition, which means I have to eat...I'll pray a whole Divine Mercy Chaplet for him for a week in lieu.
Edit:
Wait...define fasting? (I'm still just getting settled into this whole Catholic thing )[/quote]

From the Catholic Encyclopedia:

Fasting essentially consists in eating but one full meal in twenty-four hours and that about midday. It also implies the obligation of abstaining from flesh meat during the same period, unless legitimate authority grants permission to eat meat. The quantity of food allowed at this meal has never been made the subject of positive legislation. Whosoever therefore eats a hearty or sumptuous meal in order to bear the burden of fasting satisfies the obligation of fasting. Any excess during the meal mitigates against the virtue of temperance, without jeopardizing the obligation of fasting.

According to general usage, noon is the proper time for this meal. For good reasons this hour may be legitimately anticipated ... In like manner, the hour for the midday meal and the collation, may for good reasons be conscientiously inverted. In many of our larger cities this practice now prevails. According to D'Annibale (Summa Theologiae Moralis, 4 ed. III, 134) and Noldin (Summa Theologiae Moralis, n. 674) good reasons justify one in taking a collation in the morning, dinner at noon, and the morning allowance in the evening, because the substance of fasting still remains intact. Nothing like a noteworthy interruption should he admitted during the course of the midday meal, because such a break virtually forms two meals instead of one. Common sense, taking into consideration individual intention and the duration of the interruption, must finally determine whether a given interruption is noteworthy or not. Ordinarily an interruption of one half hour is considered slight. Nevertheless, an individual, after having commenced the midday meal and meeting with a bonafide interruption lasting for an hour or more is fully justified in resuming and finishing the meal after the termination of an interruption. Finally, unless special reasons suggest the contrary, it is not allowed to give immoderate length to the time of this meal. Ordinarily, a duration of more than two hours is considered immoderate in this matter.

Besides a complete meal, the Church now permits a collation usually taken in the evening. In considering this point proper allowance must be made for what custom has introduced regarding both the quantity and the quality of viands allowed at this repast. In the first place, about eight ounces of food are permitted at the collation even though this amount of food would fully satisfy the appetites of some persons. [b]Moreover, the attention must be paid to each person's temperament, duties, length of fast, etc. Hence, much more food is allowed in cold than in warm climates, more to those working during the day than to those at ease, more to the weak and hungry than to the strong and well fed. As a general rule whatever is deemed necessary in order to enable people to give proper attention to their duties may be taken at the collation.[/b]

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Since that article is kind of wordy, I'll say what I know... I think I've heard that for Lenten fasting, one full meal and two other periods of eating an amount of food that together don't add up to the main meal (I think?) are allowed. No meat, etc. Of course, if you think you can handle eating less, then that is fine. That, I believe, is the formal Lenten maximum amount of food allowed during a fast, though.

Edited July 25, 2008 by lilac_angel

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
where's picchick's thread on saints of the eucharist? perhaps we can do a novena for one of their intercession? (bad grammar, i know, don't kill me hsmom! )

[MissScripture]

[quote name='Selah' post='1607931' date='Jul 24 2008, 09:14 PM']I know...I know.

I think i'm gonna go on a fast and pray for this man...he needs to realize what he has done...he has no idea...[/quote]
And then keep praying once he does realize, because he just might need more prayers when he realizes what it is he DID do!

[Selah]

Yeah Definatly

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='lilac_angel' post='1607980' date='Jul 24 2008, 09:41 PM']From the Catholic Encyclopedia:
...

Since that article is kind of wordy, I'll say what I know... I think I've heard that for Lenten fasting, one full meal and two other periods of eating an amount of food that together don't add up to the main meal (I think?) are allowed. No meat, etc. Of course, if you think you can handle eating less, then that is fine. That, I believe, is the formal Lenten maximum amount of food allowed during a fast, though.[/quote]
I'll do my best!

[CoffeeCatholic]

Awful.

How did he get the host in the first place? Most churches are pretty good about making sure it's consumed. The cathedral here even has the Knights in as guards.

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1607982' date='Jul 25 2008, 03:42 AM']+J.M.J.+
where's picchick's thread on saints of the eucharist? perhaps we can do a novena for one of their intercession? (bad grammar, i know, don't kill me hsmom! )[/quote]
I've been praying to St. Clare of Assisi for her intercession, and I just found a novena to her.

[quote]Invocation


O most Holy Trinity,
Father, Son and Holy Spirit,
we praise your Holy Name
and the wonders of grace
you worked in your servant, Saint Clare.
Through her powerful intercession
grant us the favours we beg in this novena,
above all the grace to live and die
as she did in your most Holy Love.

Amen.

First Day


O Seraphic Saint Clare,
first disciple of the Poor Man of Assisi,
who hast abandoned all riches and honours
for a life of sacrifice
and of highest poverty,
obtain from God for us the grace we ask
(State your intention here...),
that of always submitting to the Divine Will
and of living confidently
in the providence of our Heavenly Father.

Amen.

Second Day

O Seraphic Saint Clare who,
notwithstanding living separated from the world
hast not forgotten the poor and the afflicted,
but hast become a mother to them,
sacrificing for them your riches
and working for them innumerable miracles;
obtain from God for us the grace we implore
(State your intention here...),
Christian charity towards our brethren
in all their spiritual and temporal needs.

Amen.

Third Day

O Seraphic Saint Clare,
light of your country,
who hast delivered Italy from barbarous invaders;
obtain from God for us the grace we implore
(State your intention here...),
that of overcoming all attacks of the world
against faith and morals
thus preserving in our families
true Christian peace
with a holy fear of God
and a devotion to the Blessed Sacrament.

Amen.

Fourth Day

Blessed Saint Clare,
whose very name means light,
illumine the darkness of our minds and hearts
so that we might see
what God wishes us to do
and perform it
with a willing and joyful heart.
Before your birth,
a Heavenly voice foretold
that you would be a light illuminating the world.
Be a light to us in the sorrows
and anxieties of this earthly life,
and lead us into the eternal light
of our home in Heaven.

Amen.

Fifth Day

O Seraphic Saint Clare,
whose virginal heart was great enough
to love the whole world,
take our petitions into your pure hands
and present them to God.
Pray for us that we may one day
enter joyously before the throne of God.
Let the light of your perfect purity
consume the shadows of sin
and corruption that darkens the world.
Intercede by your innocence for our youth.
Safeguard the peace of our homes
and the unity of our family.
Plead with your chaste love for all in peril.

Amen.

Sixth Day

Generous Saint Clare,
who left wealth and pleasure
and all earthly goods
to become the first spiritual daughter of Saint Francis
and to serve God in the cloister,
help us to commit our lives to God
without limit or measure
so that He may live in us
and shine forth from us
to all whose lives touch ours.
You who loved souls so much
as to make your life a continual sacrifice for them,
obtain for us the graces we now implore
and win for us the strength to praise God
in suffering as well as in joy.

Amen.

Seventh Day

Faithful Saint Clare,
loyal daughter of the Church,
friend and confidante of popes,
intercede for the holy Church
and look graciously from Heaven
on our holy Father Pope.
Enlighten us to remove from our souls
all that hinders the progress of the Church on earth.
Grant that we may share
your great love for the church of God
and spread His kingdom on earth
by a holy life. You,
who worked miracles
in the presence of the pope on earth,
obtain for us the graces we need,
now that you stand
in the presence of the most high God in Heaven.

Amen.

Eighth Day

Valiant Saint Clare,
who fearlessly stood alone
against the barbarous Saracens,
trusting in the Blessed Sacrament
as your only protection,
enkindle in us a tender love for Jesus Christ;
help us to live Eucharistic lives.
You who saved your city of Assisi
from plunder and ruin,
protect our city and archdiocese,
plead for our beloved country
and the suffering world.
A voice from the Sacred Host
rewarded your trust with a promise:
"I will always take care of you."
Glorious Saint Clare,
from your high place in Heaven,
take care of us now
in our earthly needs
and guide us by your light to Heaven.

Amen.

Ninth Day

Gracious Saint Clare,
who fulfilled your womanhood
by a life of love in prayer and penance,
help us to fulfill our destiny
that we may one day greet you in Heaven.
You who were consoled at your death
by a vision of Christ band His Mother,
obtain for us the grace that we may die
under the special protection of God
and enter into the life
and bliss you now enjoy.
Have pity on us who struggle,
on us who mourn,
and win for us the favours of God
so that after this life
we may come home to Him
who lives and reigns forever and ever.

Amen.

Closing Prayer


V. Pray for us, Saint Clare.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

Let us Pray:


We Pray You, Lord,
Grant us Your servants
who celebrate the festival of Blessed Clare your Virgin,
by her intercession,
to be partakers of the joys of heaven
and coheirs with Your only-begotten Son,
Who being God,
lives and reigns forever and ever.

Amen.

(Monasterio De Santa Clara, Quezon City, Philippines)[/quote]

[Balthazor]

Phellow Phatmassers,

It is imperative that we not react with hate to this man.
God sent us this chance, ironic as it sounds, to give us the chance to react in His Grace. we are all angry and upset, because our Lord was disrespected in such a hateful way. But instead of returning hate for hate, instead let us react with love.

I want to stress that Prof. Meyers has no clue what he has done. He may understand how important the Blessed Sacrament is to us, but he has no clue how important it is to himself.

I agree that it is human justice that he be removed from his position. But somehow I think that Prof. Meyers needs more, he needs love. He needs prayers, I agree with the post about having such great hope and faith in God that Prof. Meyers be converted to our next St. Paul.... or St. Augustine.

We live in a protected society, there is no real threat of persecution that the early Saints and Martyrs endurded here in the western world. This guy is is folks, the battlefield is on a different level now. How will you react when Meyers tries to throw you to the Lions? Will to kick and fight or go meekly?

Meyers is not the first person I know to intentionally desecrate the Eucharist, though he was the most dramatic. Unfotunitly is happens more than you think. However his dessecration was unique in that it was intended, not as an attack on the preisthood, or the faith... but on us the faithful. So think, dear Phatmassers, be sure that if you write a letter that it is filled with humility and compassion. And when you say a prayer or speak it is not in the spirit of revenge. He needs prayers and compassion, he is a lost sheep, and God wants him to come home, let us help him to come home.

Balty.

[Didacus]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1607608' date='Jul 24 2008, 04:39 PM']My tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen..... [/quote]

Long live democracy...

When will people finally admit that some things cannot and should not be tolerated?