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    Catholic Tan Books

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    Catholic Tan Books

    Stop lying to cover for the racist company TAN. They edit their books. They revise certain sections and commentary. So the quoted garbage you spewed isn't accurate. You're attempting to paint the picture that they don't edit their books and revise them. They do all the time which was illustrated clearly in the original post. They left this unchanged because they still believe black people are the lowest of people and barbaric. And cursed. And hard to convert. And whatever else was said. Yeah I'm unfallen haha That's comical since my entire time at Phatmass I've consistently called myself out and all my flaws. I'm just not cool with giving a pass to a racist company like TAN and pretending they don't print the racist garbage they print. You can continue to lie for them and make excuses for them as if it's somehow okay. And that people can look over it or decide for themselves if black people are as described by TAN.
  4. Luigi

    Catholic Tan Books

    I don't know where you live, but where I live, there are a good many Black Catholics and there have been for a couple of centuries. "You're ignorant" - always a good way to convince others to agree with you. And if you're unaware of the long tradition of Black Catholics, then you're ignorant. "There's a reason why there are black churches." There's more than one reason, and some of them have nothing to do with theology, or past practice of Catholicism. Some of them have to do with sociology, taste in music, the parish system that's based on geography rather than race, and lots of other things. There was also The Great Awakening, which was centered largely in the South, which was where the majority of the Black population in the United States lived. So when they "got religion," it was Protestant religion. My diocese had specifically Black churches long years ago, founded in the days of slavery. They were closed in 1955 and Black Catholics were integrated into white parishes - for both worship and education. But we have four or five Black parishes now, and a Black Catholic high school, too, because the Black Catholics want it that way. So the Black Catholics can choose to attend an all-Black parish and an all-Black high school - or integrated, if they prefer that - but the white Catholics couldn't choose to attend an all-white parish or high school if they were so inclined. Also, in the small towns where there has only ever been one parish, the Black and white Catholics have always attended the same church, been ministered to by the same priests, and been buried in the same cemetery. TAN has specialized in reprinting old books. Those books are cultural artifacts - products of the people and place and time in which they were written. So it shouldn't surprise anyone that there might be racist comments in some of them, or anti-Semitic comments, or sexist comments, or anything else. That doesn't mean that racism, anti-Semitism, or sexism are the infallible teaching of the Church. It just means that the author thought like a lot of other people of that time and place. And even if a person does read a racist comment in a book - be it an original edition of an old book or a modern reprint of the old book - doesn't mean that she necessarily believes the comment. People have intellects, and free wills, and they can come to their own conclusions about whether any given statement in any given book is valid. I agree with you that racism is a terrible sin. So is abortion, and so is murder, and so is addicting innocent people to drugs, and so is sexual abuse of minors, and so is... and so is... and so is... As it happens, we live in a fallen world, full of terrible people who do terrible things terribly often to a terribly large number of people. I just thank God that I can come to this board where there is at least one unfallen person who can point out to the rest of us that someone somewhere has done a terrible thing by reprinting a book.
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    Catholic Tan Books

    I have nothing but love for you. In debate mode it's gloves off though when you attempt to downplay this. I'm not implying anything about you. I'm responding to your replies. You keep saying I'm just whining about this but if I hadn't posted you wouldn't know about it nor would the 700 other people who have read it so far. Because no one would call this racist company out. It took a black catholic finally in 2020 reading what TAN wrote to make it public and express her hurt and anger. Really odd no one else who read it all those years brought it to light. Most don't. And there's a reason for that. And if you think it has nothing to do with racism you're ignorant. Look at the history of catholicism/christianity. It's not hard to see if you look. There's a reason why there are black churches. You say yourself how great TAN is and all the good books they publish. And they were the first company ECT Yet they still publish books with this stuff in it. I have tons of black friends on FB. I refuse to post this on there because of how bad it will make Catholicism look. That's fine. And I think your post comes off as very ignorant. You're basically saying if a christian musician made a song calling black people the n word and saying their race is evil that it wouldn't define their other great music. And it wouldn't make them racist because they've been around forever and put out tons of great art. That's just one song. We should ask them about that song and give them the benefit of the doubt. Also TAN is tweeting Timothy Gordon. lol I'm guessing you know nothing about him or his views. Peace.
  6. little2add

    Questionable Catholic Identity Of Seton Home Study School

    I like seton http://students.bayleybulletin.com/latest/simon-wins-two-1st-prizes-open-dutch-championship?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fb-achievement-simon-feb20&utm_campaign=fb-achievement-simon-feb20&fbclid=IwAR3LYE3MfNMD4q67fADYQY2MwC-VWiX0QZZzijopaZCmSAYXGiIOF3CjKjM
  7. penitent60

    Mental Illness & Bipolar Disorder

    Thank you for this quote....it is immeasurably consoling.
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  9. katherineH

    Religious Sisters of Mercy Alma

    @TalithaKoum Their sisters were of all different personalities and walks of life! Some entered right out of high schools, others at 40 years old. I would say they are all very hard workers and intellectually curious. I think you have to be to a certain degree to make it through formation. One aspect that might differentiate them from other communities is their approach to family visits and communication: during postulancy, families visit one weekend and then they go home for one weekend usually before entering the novitiate. In between visits, they communicate via letter and have about one phone call home a month. They can also have friends visit during postulancy, and communicate with them through letter. During the first year of novitiate (considered a cloistered year), there is only communication with family through letters and occasional phone calls. They can't write letters to non-family members. On one hand, this is far more contact than a Nashville or Michigan Dominican might be afforded, but it is still fairly restricted. I found out pretty quickly that sisters hardly have any time at all to write their first year, and communication eventually dies off. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but something to be aware of. I've found that a lot of religious sisters use the language of "seeing their family in the Eucharist" but I think it's important to recognize that it's not really the same.
  10. Seven77

    Catholic Tan Books

    I think this is a serious issue. Why you are speaking to me in this way, I have no clue. You know me, at least a little bit and know that I am not down with racism. What you are implying about me is total BS. I think it's serious enough to do something about. Instead of whining about. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Until you brought it up, I had no idea that this kind of thing was still being circulated. I've been reading Tan books because they published things I was looking for such as story of a soul by St. Therese, true devotion to Mary, introduction to the devout life… There's nothing remotely racist in these books. Avid Catholic readers who are African-American have probably read these edition S. ALSO, it is a willfully ignorant generalization to say that African-Americans don't become Catholics especially when there is at least one here who posts. You obviously don't live here in DC as well. No offense, but your post comes off awfully smug. No matter, I love you anyway brother. God bless you and give you peace. E
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    Catholic Tan Books

    Speak for yourself. If you print even only one book (in 2005 there may be more books) with commentary saying what they did about black people they're racist. Not sure how you come to the conclusion they're not. Keep supporting them. That's on you. I actually have black friends and family. I can't see myself telling them "well besides the one book where they called your entire race scum they're overall a good company." Dude w t f? They print religious books. They're talking MAJOR racist **** about an entire race. You're suggesting they were just naive in 2005 and didn't know what they were doing? It's amazing how you guys just brush over this like it's not a big deal. And you wonder why African Americans don't become Catholics. That's nice...What does that have to do with the blatantly racist **** they published about an entire race of people?
  12. little2add

    Catholic Tan Books

    The 1920’s was so uncivilized Abortion was illegal there was only two genders adultery and fornication was considered immoral and was illegal too didn't have GAY marriage No in-door plumbing, no internet, no porn, no phones, no lights , no Motor cars, no TV,
  13. Father Ed Looney who used to post here under the name @the_rev back in the day, when he was just a high school student, was on EWTN with Father Mitch tonight. I think you can catch it on YouTube already. He was on talking about his new book "LENT with Mother Mary". Check it out.
  14. Seven77

    Catholic Tan Books

    Complaining about it and contacting them are not mutually exclusive things. The company not racist just because they printed one book that has this croutons theory in it. They print other books too.. I read them. They are not racist books I'm talking about. I mean they have been printing books since day one when they were no other Catholic publishers around. The classics of the spiritual life. I think it's worth reaching out to them. You ever heard the saying, "it's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness?" Maybe nobody brought the issue to their attention? Shine a light on the darkness. Yeah, it's easy to just dismiss something as evil or whatever but harder to do something constructive about it. Also, God doesn't just look at us as hopeless, impossible to change or do anything with… So I won't do that. Take the good, leave the bad… Better yet, do something about the bad so the good shine even brighter. Food for thought man.
  15. BarbaraTherese

    Mental Illness & Bipolar Disorder

    Jean Pierre de Caussade - The Sacrament of The Present Moment (Paperback $17.23) "From the Back Cover In this superb new translation of the celebrated spiritual classic of wisdom, hope, and inspiration, Jean-Pierre de Caussade offers guidance for daily living in communion with God. This exemplary devotional work summons readers to holiness, reveals ways to conquer self-love and pride, and points the way for experiencing each moment as a sacrament.The author shows how God speaks to us through every moment of every day. He encourages a joyous, affirming, selfless abandonment to God. By entering into such active contemplation and facing ourselves honestly and openly, the author assures us, we can achieve the comfort and fulfillment of a life suffused with grace.These timeless spiritual reflections probe the mystery of faith, illuminate the nature of authentic contemplation, and help us recognize and carry out God's purpose in our own lives. They stand as powerful testimony to de Caussade's conviction "that there is nothing easier, more ordinary, more available to all than saintliness." About the Author Jean-Pierre de Caussade was born in Toulouse, France, and was ordained a member of the Society of Jesus in 1708. In 1731, he was appointed spiritual director of the Jesuit retreat house in Nancy, where he undertook the spiritual direction of the Nuns of the Visitation. It is the notes of his addresses to the nuns that form this book.Kitty Muggeridge, the wife of author and journalist Malcolm Muggeridge, is well-known as a translator."
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  17. flowersofmary

    Questionable Catholic Identity Of Seton Home Study School

    I am currently 7 months pregnant with our first child and have been looking into Catholic homeschooling programs because my husband and I are united on the fact that we will not send our kids to public schools or even Catholic schools, which teach liberalism, modernism, and heresy. The person who made the original post actually greatly encouraged me to use Seton Home Study, and I wanted to offer a conservative and traditional voice for those faithful Catholics who adhere to doctrine and breathe a sigh of relief to see Seton's denial of modernist secular culture. Evolution is a heresy. It was condemned by the Church in her wisdom because it directly opposes Divine Revelation and the account of creation history in Genesis. It also teaches people that since we are constantly evolving, it is okay for morals also to change. This undermines the wisdom of two thousand years of Church teaching and basically says that the early saints, apostles, and Christians got it all wrong. But Jesus is eternal and never-changing or evolving, and since He made the Church, He cannot be wrong. If you want more details about how the scam of evolution entered into schools and into modern thinking even for Catholics, there is a great interview on the John Henry Weston show on YouTube with Hugh Owen. Here is the link: I am greatly encouraged to see that Seton does not use texts that were written after Vatican II. If you want more information about all of the radical changes to liturgy that Vatican II introduced to the Church, the incredibly corrupt Bishops and Cardinals behind these changes, and how all of that is linked to the horrific decline in Mass attendance and disbelief in the real presence of the Eucharist, check out Infiltration by Dr. Taylor Marshall. From what I can tell, Seton is traditionally oriented, meaning it is simply authentic Catholicism. It appears that many naysayers are in line with the nouveau theologie modernists, which, by the way, is considered the ultimate heresy of the Church. It is so upsetting that since Vatican II, so many people have been led astray from true faith by the lies, distortions, and alterations made to the liturgy as well as the compromises so many Catholic leaders have made with modern secular culture. Doctrine cannot change. If Seton is promoting a return to orthodoxy in Catholic teaching, I am so encouraged to see this and excited to use the program. I hope these resources are helpful to others. God bless.
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    Delete old thread

    How do I either delete an old thread or my profile/activity?
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  21. BarbaraTherese

    Mental Illness & Bipolar Disorder

  22. BarbaraTherese

    Former Nuns

    In thought and in expression.........well said
  23. Antigonos

    Former Nuns

    While I fully recognize this is a forum for discerners, I too think it's important to recognize that not all "matches" between individuals and communities are "made in heaven." IMO, the most important thing to remember is that there's no failure involved, to think of the experience of living in religious life as a learning experience, and to move on in one's spiritual quest. Ultimately, it's one's relationship with God that matters, and there are an infinite number of pathways to tread, just as the theologies of Judaism and Catholicism are radically different, the goals are the same in the end.
  24. Jennifer

    Kayte Discerns (An Ongoing Journey)

    Praying for you Kayte.................I hope you had a wonderful time with the sisters.
  25. BarbaraTherese

    Mental Illness & Bipolar Disorder

    Communio Renew all things in Christ
  26. sr.christinaosf

    Thoughts from a Franciscan Sister

    http://ndfranciscans.org/fiat/all-in-the-perspective This evening, Sister Elaine shared how fast she felt the week was going. She works in bookkeeping, and has been busy. Among other things, she has to get ready for the board meeting here on Saturday. The pressure...
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