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  2. On August 15, 2019, Sister Catherine Luttmer and Sister Maria Rose Carter made their perpetual profession as Olivetan Benedictine Sisters!
  3. Josh

    why do people hate catholics

    I'm in America. Other parts of the world I know it's different. Where do you live?
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  5. BarbaraTherese

    End does not justify means

    I think it is very true that suffering can result in a person becoming more human and able to share and empathize with others who suffer. I very much do get that, but suffering remains an evil permitted by God to bring about the greater good i.e. the end has justified the means and contrary to "the end cannot justify the means". My question is also about innocence that suffers dreadfully. In our doctrine of Divine Providence, God permits evil knowing He can bring about a greater good, meaning the means have been justified by the end - and a contradiction it seems. I think mine probably is a philosophical question. It is also related to the doctrine of Divine Providence which seems to present a contradiction to "the end cannot justify the means". To understand the doctrine of Divine Providence, go to http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p4.htm and scroll down to: V. GOD CARRIES OUT HIS PLAN: DIVINE PROVIDENCE It might be something that cannot be understood by the finite mind with trust and confidence, Faith, in the Infinite Mind of God. For me, Faith is seeking understanding unless it clicks, I just am not going to ever understand........and perhaps this is so, but no click just yet ___________ Catholic Catechism: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c1a4.htm 1753 A good intention (for example, that of helping one's neighbor) does not make behavior that is intrinsically disordered, such as lying and calumny, good or just. The end does not justify the means. Thus the condemnation of an innocent person cannot be justified as a legitimate means of saving the nation. On the other hand, an added bad intention (such as vainglory) makes an act evil that, in and of itself, can be good (such as almsgiving).39
  6. chrysostom

    Apparitions: Church must be prudent in judging

    I am sympathetic, but I have seen the video of the visionary faking the ecstatic state - that is, flinching at someone poking near their eyes - and later claiming that they were afraid at that precise moment that the BVM was going to drop the Child Jesus.
  7. BarbaraTherese

    Cardinal Pell's Appeal dismissed

    A matter of wait and see I think. If the High Court does take it on, then after that it will be a Vatican investigation, which will happen anyway.
  8. Josh

    why do people hate catholics

    Please give some examples of people who hate Catholics. I'm Catholic and I don't experience people hating me because of it.
  9. cruciatacara

    End does not justify means

    Anderson Cooper's interview with Stephen Colbert touched on the issue of suffering a little and it was interesting. Stephen basically explained that he sees suffering as a way for people to become more human, to be able to share and empathize with others who suffer. It isn't a complete answer for all the suffering in the world of babies and children etc, but it is a little comforting for individual suffering.
  10. cruciatacara

    Cardinal Pell's Appeal dismissed

    It is unlikely that the High Court will accept the case because it deals with matters of law and the two issues of law that were raised in the appeal were rejected unanimously by all three appeal judges. The one issue (of veracity of the witness) is not usually something that the High Court deals with. That being said, the case is very high profile and the High Court might agree to take it on simply because of this.
  11. Lilllabettt

    CS Lewis' Space Trilogy Book Discussion

    Yeah ... but in the narrative is this treated like a proper dark thing . To me it was treated more like a mistake vs a real sin. It may be my palette is poisoned by a steady diet of antiheroes in modern media/literature. Ransom is by comparison uncomplicated and pure. He is not going to be running a methlab a la breaking bad
  12. BarbaraTherese

    Cardinal Pell's Appeal dismissed

    High Court Appeal and then The Vatican https://www.9news.com.au/national/george-pell-appeal-how-high-court-holds-final-legal-avenue-to-have-conviction-overturned-news-update/242704d2-0f82-4de1-b8a6-76b3bdfb6eb2?ocid=edm-nine.com.au-ninedaily--190822&mktg_scr=edm-ninedaily
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  14. Seven77

    CS Lewis' Space Trilogy Book Discussion

    Interesting, ill have to think more about this... but for now, I don't think that Lewis has a negative view of space exploration in general. However, I think he holds the view that space exploration, and technology of curiosity as we can put it, technology of vanity, etc., is a product of the fall. Unfiallen species of intelligence don't do these things.… In fact I think a conversation of this kind was a catalyst for us reading the book/trilogy. Also, I think that Ransom had the obvious flaw of hesitating, and not going to see the Oyarsa right away and blood was shed as a result of disobedience. Almost done with book 1
  15. BarbaraTherese

    End does not justify means

    If the end does not justify the means, how is it that God can permit terrible suffering in order to bring about a greater good? (Doctrine of Divine Providence). This is something I cannot understand while I can hold that it is valid and a great Mystery. But first, I have to ask the question. It is something I would like to understand, if understanding is possible.
  16. BarbaraTherese

    Apparitions: Church must be prudent in judging

    My comments: I think possibly one problem with Medjugorje in the minds of those appointed in Rome to approve or disapprove, might be that Medjugorje has set a precedence of ongoing apparitions with messages with multiple visionaries over a long period of years. This has never happened previously in our history. Of course, that is not to state that it could never happen - rather that it is a potential and Rome is moving very slowly and with great care: "Satan can appear as an angel of light" (2 Corinthians Chapter 11), which is not to state at all that Medjugorje falls into that category, while it does remain a potential, although an increasingly quite remote one due to certain factors until the question of validity is finally settled. The shrine is now designated as pontifical with Vatican oversight while Rome considers the validity. That carries quite a bit of weight in my book.
  17. No Ozzy Osborne!!! That's just mad! I will never tune in to that show. Heck, its no wonder i never heard of them in the first place.
  18. chrysostom

    Apparitions: Church must be prudent in judging

    I can't really see how a positive evaluation of ongoing apparitions would not lend credence, at least in the eyes of supporters, to all future apparitions there...
  19. Didacus

    Abuse Crisis Prayer

    THE SECOND GLORIOUS MYSTERY THE ASCENSION G2.1 Ave Maria, gracia pleina, dominus tecum, benedicta tu in mulieribus et benedicta fructus tui, Iesus. Santa Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis oeccatoribus, hunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen
  20. Not sure about the differences, but there are certainly pertinent similarities. Both end a human life. Both attack an innocent life. Both attack the most vulnerable, who cannot speak for themselves (assuming very young children). It is a frightfully small step down the slope from abortion to infenticide.
  21. Didacus

    why do people hate catholics

    From the moment it was spoken, the world hated the Truth.
  22. Didacus

    Abortion Ban in Alabama

    Anyone have an update on the Alabama law? The fundamental reasoning in the intent of the Alabama law is to recongnize that a fetus IS A PERSON. This makes it a landmark law as i do not believe any previous aimed to establish this. Should this law go to Supreme Court and it is found that a fetus is a person, this would be a nightmare scenario to all pro-death people in the USA.
  23. Didacus

    Blues Win Stanley Cup!

    It was a fantastic series and an incredible story for the Blues. January 1st they were in last place o erall in the standings... then... Biningtom showed up. They had gone to the finals 3 times before and were swept each tkme! Thay's right, tjey lost 12 games in row i the finals until they won they forst final's game this year on the waynto won the stanley cup. And the last time they were in the fonals was against Boston (Bobby Orr for ypu hockey fans!!!), and they won the cup this year against Boston. Nifty trick nearly 40 years in the making.
  24. Didacus

    Trump Is KKK

    BS - it was restated to get attention! Dont be fooled by this Trumpism!!!
  25. MIKolbe

    Trump Is KKK

    reposted for truthiness!!!!!!!!!
  26. Didacus

    Why I now reject climate politics nearly entirely

    The climate has always varied on the earth To wish for climate to remain constant would be wishing for the exception to the general rule.
  27. Didacus

    Trump Is KKK

    Canadiens INVENTED basketball! Its a goof game... but not a sport.
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