XIX Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 [quote name='hot stuff' date='22 December 2009 - 12:23 PM' timestamp='1261499031' post='2024403'] I agree with LD, this is a silly passive aggressive thread dedicated to one person. [/quote] That is a weak, irresponsible accusation. You have no way of knowing that either way. It's entirely possible that this thread was posted in response to one person, but not to single that one person out. It's also possible that he is trying to pick on one person. Barring telepathy, we have no way of knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheartandbloodofjesus Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) I too am against all forms of blasphemy done on purpose. (Can there be accidental blasphemy? I mean doesnt it have to be intentional to be considered blapshemy?) But what is most displeasing to me is seeing other Catholics on here tolerating these blaphemous remarks or jokes and even joking back. Edited December 22, 2009 by sacredheartandbloodofjesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) The blasphemy posted on here is a childish and pathetic screaming for attention, which I generally ignore, however I think this thread raises some very valid points. There is indeed a HUGE double-standard on Phatmass, and not one in favor of Christians/Catholics, and this is kind of the elephant in the room which people choose to ignore. It seems now that on the "phorums," it's got to where the enemies of Christian religion are free to insult and blaspheme to their little hearts' content, while orthodox Catholics must walk on eggshells when they post, lest they be penalized for posting something which might possibly offend the ever-so-delicate sensibilities of Muhammedans, militant homosexuals, Satanists, Onanists, Michael Jackson worshippers, and other fragile souls. Yeah, I've heard the whole line about "Catholics being held to a higher standard," but this is ridiculous. I think the Phatmass administration ought to take a hard, serious look at what the purpose of this site is, and whether they are indeed facilitating "Preaching Holy Apostolic Truth." When one has to slog through lots of moronic anti-Catholic blasphemy and the resultant bickering, it is probably off-putting for a lot of those coming on here to have actual discussion of issues concerning Catholic religion. (Note: I'm not referring to, say, atheists posting serious intellectual objections to the existence of God, but to posts which have no purpose other than to insult Christ or the Church. Catholics are not allowed to do the same to other religions, so why the double-standard?) Far too often, it seems the Phatmass administrators serve the sacred cows of political correctness more than Christ. Edited December 22, 2009 by Socrates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 [quote name='hot stuff' date='22 December 2009 - 11:23 AM' timestamp='1261499031' post='2024403'] I agree with LD, this is a silly passive aggressive thread dedicated to one person. As long as people don't post porn or swear, I have no problems with them. Honestly Varg's sig and avatar didn't do much for me. dUSt set up the site to preach the holy apostolic truth. I doubt he meant "exclusively to those who agree with me". I've generally found that the more obnoxious the taunts, the closer they are to seeing the Truth. [/quote] Yes, I agree that Varg's blasphemy and "Satanism" is just childish attention-seeking, which doesn't "do much for me" either. However, this is supposed to be a Catholic site, dedicated to "preaching holy Catholic Apostolic Truth," and objectively speaking, blasphemy is worse than porn, and far worse than the posting of four-letter vulgarities which result in swift censorship and penalties here. Why should it be tolerated, when much less serious offenses are not? It's like going to a church, or building dedicated to preaching Christ's truth, and allowing it to be routinely desecrated, while those in charge of the buildings uptake do little about it, and go after "over-zealous" Christians instead. The issue is not about people disagreeing, it's about posts made to insult God or Christ. I've seen things posted about Jesus Christ which the "moderators" would not for a second tolerate if they had been directed at Mohammed or homosexuals. The Phatmass administrators either need to re-examine their priorities, or stop calling this site "Catholic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 [quote name='Socrates' date='22 December 2009 - 11:40 AM' timestamp='1261507226' post='2024483'] Yes, I agree that Varg's blasphemy and "Satanism" is just childish attention-seeking, which doesn't "do much for me" either.[/quote] I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregorius Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 "Sacred cows of political correctness"? That's a new one. Anyway, as for the double standards, if Christ allowed Himself to be mocked, beaten, scourged, paraded to the outskirts of town and nailed to a cross, should we not have the strength to endure insults hurtled at us because of Him? Keep in mind that's not the same thing as accepting or approving it. But as I see it, those who claim to be satanist or some silly stuff like that are really just throwing insults at us, not at God.God is offended at all of us, but he still Loves us. To a non-member of the forum who randomly finds the site and sees a topic, who would they conclude knows what they're talking about: crazy atheist-type reduced to hurling insults and mis-interpreting the bible, or the crazy Catholic-type person who sees the former for what they are really saying and calmly speaks with everybody without hurling insults back. And as for the person at the back of everyone's mind while reading this topic, I see no reason why that person can't stay. We're much cooler than the atheist nexus anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' date='22 December 2009 - 10:48 AM' timestamp='1261496886' post='2024370'] Read Socrates. [/quote] He didn't write anything, unless you mean the member of the phorum. but i know what you mean. Blasphemy should not be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Allowances should be made within the Debate Table for comments that could be construed as blasphemous from a Christian perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Socrates' date='22 December 2009 - 01:25 PM' timestamp='1261506315' post='2024470'] The blasphemy posted on here is a childish and pathetic screaming for attention, which I generally ignore, however I think this thread raises some very valid points. There is indeed a HUGE double-standard on Phatmass, and not one in favor of Christians/Catholics, and this is kind of the elephant in the room which people choose to ignore. It seems now that on the "phorums," it's got to where the enemies of Christian religion are free to insult and blaspheme to their little hearts' content, while orthodox Catholics must walk on eggshells when they post, lest they be penalized for posting something which might possibly offend the ever-so-delicate sensibilities of Muhammedans, militant homosexuals, Satanists, Onanists, Michael Jackson worshippers, and other fragile souls. Yeah, I've heard the whole line about "Catholics being held to a higher standard," but this is ridiculous. I think the Phatmass administration ought to take a hard, serious look at what the purpose of this site is, and whether they are indeed facilitating "Preaching Holy Apostolic Truth." When one has to slog through lots of moronic anti-Catholic blasphemy and the resultant bickering, it is probably off-putting for a lot of those coming on here to have actual discussion of issues concerning Catholic religion. (Note: I'm not referring to, say, atheists posting serious intellectual objections to the existence of God, but to posts which have no purpose other than to insult Christ or the Church. Catholics are not allowed to do the same to other religions, so why the double-standard?) Far too often, it seems the Phatmass administrators serve the sacred cows of political correctness more than Christ. [/quote] +1 Insulting Catholicism is cool. Insulting Islam is not. (Even though what is said regarding Islam is factual.) Edited December 22, 2009 by HisChildForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='22 December 2009 - 02:19 PM' timestamp='1261509567' post='2024510'] Allowances should be made within the Debate Table for comments that could be construed as blasphemous from a Christian perspective. [/quote] If the comments are a sincere search for truth and an objective view of facts, yes. If the comments are simply insults to Almighty God, no. Lately I've seen a lot more insults than searches for truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='22 December 2009 - 02:21 PM' timestamp='1261509711' post='2024512'] Insulting Catholicism is cool. Insulting Islam is not. [/quote] I so disagree with you on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='22 December 2009 - 02:22 PM' timestamp='1261509767' post='2024514'] I so disagree with you on that one. [/quote] These are just my observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='22 December 2009 - 02:22 PM' timestamp='1261509767' post='2024514'] I so disagree with you on that one. [/quote] She's right, though... if you draw 'blasphemous' cartoons of mohammed you'll be lynched, but if you draw blasphemous cartoons of Jesus you'll be put in the New York Times. Edited December 22, 2009 by aalpha1989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntingknight Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) If the Blasphemy is constant and the Satanism is also constant then the official MP's of phatmass would have a Just reason to conduct a trial and assign a respectable punishment. (In my personal humble opinion.) Edited December 22, 2009 by dauntingknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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