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[quote name='Winchester' date='13 April 2010 - 12:56 PM' timestamp='1271174183' post='2092472']
Our infant mortality rate is probably higher due to culture, not access to health care. I've asked the question many times of pregnant mothers, after finding out they had a doctor when they last saw them or of they called. Answer: "No". Seen too many pregnant mothers with doctors who continue to drink and smoke, don't take care of themselves and don't make regular appointments. All have access to doctors--they choose another route.

[b]It's culture.[/b]
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fully agreed.

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[quote name='Winchester' date='13 April 2010 - 10:56 AM' timestamp='1271174183' post='2092472']
Our infant mortality rate is probably higher due to culture, not access to health care. I've asked the question many times of pregnant mothers, after finding out they had a doctor when they last saw them or of they called. Answer: "No". Seen too many pregnant mothers with doctors who continue to drink and smoke, don't take care of themselves and don't make regular appointments. All have access to doctors--they choose another route.

It's culture.
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It also has to do with older moms. They run into more complications. It has to do with a rising number of moms who are obese. That leads to complications. It also has to do with IVF and multiple births, and a rising number of premature babies.

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SaintOfVirtue

I'm wondering how many Catholic hospitals will close when they are forced to provide contraception, sterilizations, and abortions. Catholic hospitals make up 1/6 of all hospitals in the USA.

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[quote name='CatherineM' date='13 April 2010 - 12:40 PM' timestamp='1271176857' post='2092491']
It also has to do with older moms. They run into more complications. It has to do with a rising number of moms who are obese. That leads to complications. It also has to do with IVF and multiple births, and a rising number of premature babies.
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All attributal to human decision rather than some fanciful belief in an unfair society.

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[quote name='Lumiere' date='13 April 2010 - 10:53 AM' timestamp='1271173994' post='2092468']
It means 60 hospitals that were in the planning stages won't go any further at this point. Here is a direct quote from the article:

"More than 60 doctor-owned hospitals across the country that were in the development stage will be canceled, said Molly Sandvig, executive director of Physician Hospitals of America (PHA)."

Once again we see people who are supposed to be honest deliberately misleading people.
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[url="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/64034"]From the article[/url]:

[quote]The [b]new rules single out physician-owned hospitals[/b], making new physician-owned projects ineligible to receive payments for Medicare and Medicaid patients.

Existing doctor-owned hospitals will be grandfathered in to get government funds for patients but[b] must seek permission from the Department of Health and Human Services to expand.[/b]

The get the department’s permission, a doctor-owned hospital must be ... [BLAH BLAH BLAH] ...
These rules are under Title VI, Section 6001 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The provision is titled “Physician Ownership and Other Transparency – Limitations on Medicare Exceptions to the Prohibition on Certain Physician Referral for Hospitals.”

More than 60 doctor-owned hospitals across the country that were in the development stage will be canceled, said Molly Sandvig, executive director of Physician Hospitals of America (PHA).

“That’s a lot of access to communities that will be denied,” Sandvig told CNSNews.com.[/quote]

But what do we expect when the Federal Government is monopolizing healthcare? Choices are removed from the table. It's not about social justice. [url="http://www.withoutadjectives.com/?p=1452"]According to Representative John D. Dingell, it's about how to "control the people."[/url]

And to make it even worse, there's [url="http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/tom-price-healthcare-democrats/2010/03/20/id/353358"]159 brand new government agencies[/url] that will create entirely new balls of red tape for the Government's healthcare "service." And [url="http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2010/03/21/good-news-obamacare-to-create-16500-new-jobs/"]16,500 new bureaucrats[/url] will be working for the IRS alone.

Not only will this not do what it was promised, it will harm the very people the political class claim they wish to help. The NY Times is trying to say that, yes there will be health-rationing; but [url="http://www.withoutadjectives.com/?p=1750"]they are trying to spin it as a good thing[/url].

The neediest will not get the healthcare. The most influential will.

Like Father Sirico wrote a year ago, socialism has not only never worked, but it harmed the very people it claimed to help. H[url="http://insidecatholic.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2155&Itemid=48"]e wrote that we live in a[/url]

[quote]... time when socialism as an ideology seems to have been unfazed by the collapse of the communist experiment. Visit the philosophy and English departments on most college campuses, and you will still find intellectuals waxing eloquent on the glories of socialist theory. Students are still encouraged to imagine that it could work.

What about the Soviet Union? We are told that this wasn't really socialism. And what about Nazism -- the German word for national socialism? Oh, that's not socialism either. What about the growing impoverishment in once-rich countries with social democratic governments? The failure of micro-socialism in the United States, where entire communities have lived on government subsidies and are plagued with frightening levels of social pathology? They say that this is not socialism either.

Large swaths of American academia are in denial. So too are major parts of the American and European clerical class, which is still under the impression that socialism represents a gospel ideal that has yet to be tried. One suspects that the entire history of the 20th century passed them by, for they have learned nothing from the poverty, despotism, and vast suffering wrought by the socialist ideology.[/quote]

The only good thing is that the faster Versailles D.C. over-reaches, the sooner this national nightmare will end.

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If you want to control mens' lives, but aren't clever or stronge enough to do it through private commerce, become a socialist and get into politics.

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[quote name='Winchester' date='13 April 2010 - 12:41 PM' timestamp='1271180510' post='2092551']
If you want to control mens' lives, but aren't clever or stronge enough to do it through private commerce, become a socialist and get into politics.
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I. DRINK. YOUR. MILKSHAKE!!
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God Conquers

Canada'a infant mortality is lower, life span longer because Canadians are awesome. We are the hardy people of the north, braving the depths of winter up to 100 miles north of the US border.

Also, our per-capita health care spending is lower, but this does not mean our health care is better, just more cost-efficient.

Rich Canadians who don't have the social connections to "jump the line" in Canada still go south to get better care and pay for it out of pocket.

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[quote name='SaintOfVirtue' date='13 April 2010 - 12:50 PM' timestamp='1271177401' post='2092496']
I'm wondering how many Catholic hospitals will close when they are forced to provide contraception, sterilizations, and abortions. Catholic hospitals make up 1/6 of all hospitals in the USA.
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That would smell of elderberries. Even our system doesn't do that here! St. Michael's and St. Joseph's hospital in Toronto would close if they were forced to hand out contraceptions and abortions.

[quote name='Raphael' date='13 April 2010 - 03:28 PM' timestamp='1271186905' post='2092630']
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Lullz. I like.

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