Songwriter Gets Death Threat For Criticizing Working Women Fatwa

[HisChildForever]

[quote]Mumbai, May 15: Lyricist and Rajya Sabha member Javed Akhtar on Saturday lodged a case with the Mumbai Police after he received a e-mail threat for criticizing a fatwa banning women working with men.

In the complaint, Akhtar said that he received an email in which it was stated that the countdown to his end has begun.

The email also dared Akhtar to try to save himself if he could.

[b]On Tuesday, the Darul Uloom Deoband, in a Talibanesque fatwa, decreed that it is "haram" and illegal according to the Sharia for a family to accept a woman's earnings.[/b]

Clerics at the largest Sunni Muslim seminary after Cairo's Al-Azhar said the decree flowed from the fact that the Sharia prohibited proximity of men and women at the workplace.

The e-mail taunted Akhtar, claiming he is a Muslim only in name and is actually a Jewish agent.

Reportedly, the e-mail signed by Aneesul Islam, accuses Akhtar of hurting Muslim sentiments with his comments.

The email said Akhtar could ignore the Ulema's orders if he wished, but he should not have said the fatwa was irrelevant.

The threat to Akhtar comes on the heels of a group of clerics criticizing his anti-fatwa comments.

[b]The clerics said that since Akhtar was not an authority on Islam, he should not comment on Islamic affairs.[/b]

Akhtar had opposed the Darul Uloom Deoband's fatwa that asked them not to work with men and apparently described muftis as insane. [/quote]

http://www.dailyindia.com/show/375330.php

[Winchester]

A better answer would be to form a group and go kill the man who issued the fatwa. The only answer to this ideology is killing the croutons out of it immediately and without mercy. If they didn't tolerate these boobs, they wouldn't have to tolerate these boobs.

[Fidei Defensor]

I think you have an unhealthy obsession with Islam.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='fidei defensor' date='15 May 2010 - 11:42 AM' timestamp='1273941749' post='2111098']
I think you have an unhealthy obsession with Islam.
[/quote]
Perhaps she should take a break from posting.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='15 May 2010 - 11:10 AM' timestamp='1273943420' post='2111102']
Perhaps she should take a break from posting.

[/quote]
Another option would be for those who do not like threads on Islam to simply avoid posting in them.

[T-Bone _]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='15 May 2010 - 11:13 AM' timestamp='1273943636' post='2111104']
Another option would be for those who do not like threads on Islam to simply avoid posting in them.
[/quote]

That would be easy.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='fidei defensor' date='15 May 2010 - 12:42 PM' timestamp='1273941749' post='2111098']
I think you have an unhealthy obsession with Islam.
[/quote]

If making a few threads on Islam is considered an "unhealthy obsession" then I wonder what you think of my interest in Catholicism, which pretty much dominates my life.

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='HisChildForever' date='15 May 2010 - 04:47 PM' timestamp='1273956452' post='2111177']
If making a few threads on Islam is considered an "unhealthy obsession" then I wonder what you think of my interest in Catholicism, which pretty much dominates my life.
[/quote]
Win.

[Winchester]

Yeah, what?

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='HisChildForever' date='15 May 2010 - 02:47 PM' timestamp='1273956452' post='2111177']
If making a few threads on Islam is considered an "unhealthy obsession" then I wonder what you think of my interest in Catholicism, which pretty much dominates my life.
[/quote]
Then perhaps you should stick with Catholicism.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='fidei defensor' date='16 May 2010 - 12:46 PM' timestamp='1274028392' post='2111455']
Then perhaps you should stick with Catholicism.
[/quote]

So I am not allowed to have other interests?

I better stop watching action movies and reading Anne Rice. I should also just shut off the news and shun the papers whenever there is a story unrelated to the Church. Darn, does this mean I have to ignore the weather?

[Hilde]

I wish I could ignore the weather............

[Hassan]

[quote name='HisChildForever' date='15 May 2010 - 11:19 AM' timestamp='1273936774' post='2111083']
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/375330.php
[/quote]

http://www.nacional.hr/clanak/47685/zuroff-mesicu-osudite-organizatore-sakicevog-sprovoda

Here is a rough translation from google translate
[i]
irector of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in Jerusalem, Efraim Zuroff said in an open letter to President Stipe Mesic exasperation with the way it organized the burial of a former commander of the Jasenovac concentration camp, Dinko Sakic.

"The idea that a former commander of Jasenovac, arguably one of the worst concentration camps in Europe during the Second World War, in which they systematically killed many innocent Serbs, Jews, Croats and Roma anti-fascists, it can be buried in his Ustasha uniform, and that when it this priest praised as a model for all Croatians, heavy is an insult to all those who were victims of the Ustasha, and for people who have a conscience around the world, "Zuroff said in a letter, inviting Mesic to condemn the organizers of the funeral, and the rhetoric of the priest who it led.

He added that the necessary condemnation of such 'violent racism shows', and that it is necessary to clarify the Croatian society as Sakic "a mass murderer who has disgraced the Croatian people", and that Croatia will only sacrifice the heritage of the Independent Croatian State and its fanatical extremists, Ustasha, can become a member of NATO and the European Union.

From the Office of the President reminded however that the President now many times extremely clearly condemned Ustasha crimes, marking the Ustasha regime as a criminal, and he expected the reaction of all the relevant institutions. "As priests in the exercise of religious worship does not act as private persons, it is impossible to interpret the words spoken on Šakićevom burial as a personal point of view of priests who have guided him," the statement said the President's Office in response to the rhetoric expressed by the Dominican patera Vjekoslav Lasic.

Lasic at the funeral Šakićevom said the court that convicted Dinko Sakic 'condemned Croatia and the Croatian people. In his speech, weasel, and he claimed that the NDH foundation of today's Croatian homeland, and that each should be proud Croat Šakićevim name.
[/i]

Here is the long and short.

The Priest in question condemned the trial which convicted Dinko Šakić.

Croatia in the 40's was not a very nice place. The Ustaše (A radical Roman Catholic fascist group formed after WWI) managed to convince Hitler and Himmler that the Croats were actually the descendants of Goths and thus not Slavs. The Ustaše formed a strategic alliance with Croatian Muslims, eager to join despite Clerical Fatwa's condemning an alliance with fascism after emerging from a round of savage persecution by the Serbs, and set about their goal. What was that goal? To promote and ethnically pure state. In their view the Muslims were ethnic Croats and defeated and thus not a problem, but Yugoslavia's other major faction, the Serbs, were neither ethnically pure nor defeated. The Ustaše set about securing their homeland through a 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 policy. The would kill a third of all the Serbs in the area, drive out another third, and forcibly convert another third to Roman Catholicism. They were the architects of the Holocaust in Yugoslavia (of course Roma and Jews were to be dealt with as well, but they weren't a threat like the Serbs were).

The man that that Priest was defending was a major part of those death camps.

How interesting. A Priest defending a mass murder who was part of the program to forcibly convert Serbs to Roman Catholicism. Now, had this man been a cleric defending a Muslim member of the Fascist Croatian government of WWII who wants to guess what conclusions HCF would draw? I'm willing to bet a month's rent that it would not be the same conclusion she would draw from this article. I'm willing to be that here she would point out that there is nothing in the Gospels to support the mythologized racism of the Ustaše or this Priest.

This would be a fair point and perfectly correct. However she uses quite a different standard when it comes to Muslims and Islam. If a Muslim uses religion to justify his wicked actions, then that is enough for her. Even if his actions are not sanctioned by Sharia' or mainstream Sunni thought. If he says 'Allahu Akhbar' before throwing acid on a young woman who has rejected his marriage proposal, then his actions are caused by Islam, never mind that the Hadith gives an adult woman the right to reject a marriage proposal. But if a Catholic does something wicked it has nothing to do with Catholicism because official Church dogma does not sanction such an action.

The hypocrisy is obvious. In one case causality is established by the mere expressed intent of the offender, in another case the offender's intent is absolutely irrelevant if it is not sanctioned by official dogma.

I'm sure that HCF will now recognize the internal inconstancy of her methodology and correct it accordingly.

Edited May 16, 2010 by Hassan

[HisChildForever]

Can you stop using my name? Thanks.

[Hassan]

[quote name='HisChildForever' date='16 May 2010 - 04:20 PM' timestamp='1274041233' post='2111505']
Can you stop using my name? Thanks.
[/quote]

fixed.