Apotheoun Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I am considering changing my vote too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='04 August 2010 - 11:03 PM' timestamp='1280977432' post='2152435'] I am considering changing my vote too. [/quote] And why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='04 August 2010 - 09:05 PM' timestamp='1280977545' post='2152440'] And why is that? [/quote] I am considering nullifying my vote, because the more I think about this thread, the less I think it is about charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='04 August 2010 - 11:06 PM' timestamp='1280977614' post='2152441'] I am considering nullifying my vote, because the more I think about this thread, the less I think it is about charity. [/quote] Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='04 August 2010 - 11:06 PM' timestamp='1280977614' post='2152441'] I am considering nullifying my vote, because the more I think about this thread, the less I think it is about charity. [/quote] Well I think icey was pretty clear with her intent. I think the pledge is direct. What do you think the thread is about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilde Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='05 August 2010 - 06:06 AM' timestamp='1280977614' post='2152441'] I am considering nullifying my vote, because the more I think about this thread, the less I think it is about charity. [/quote] yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='04 August 2010 - 09:09 PM' timestamp='1280977771' post='2152444'] Well I think icey was pretty clear with her intent. I think the pledge is direct. What do you think the thread is about? [/quote] I think the thread is actually a poor attempt to promote harmony here at Phatmass, which is itself a kind sentiment, but kindness and charity are not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridenteen Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='04 August 2010 - 10:06 PM' timestamp='1280977614' post='2152441'] I am considering nullifying my vote, because the more I think about this thread, the less I think it is about charity. [/quote] JMJ Exactly. I never voted becaue although IcePrincess was "clear on her intent" I see it as being used by others as a manipulation of others. Kind of like the Animal Farm, come to think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='Tridenteen' date='04 August 2010 - 11:13 PM' timestamp='1280977986' post='2152449'] JMJ Exactly. I never voted becaue although IcePrincess was "clear on her intent" I see it as being used by others as a manipulation of others. Kind of like the Animal Farm, come to think of it. [/quote] There are pmers who have been here for a long time who don't see it as a manipulation. Who are the "others" that you are referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='04 August 2010 - 11:12 PM' timestamp='1280977941' post='2152448'] I think the thread is actually a poor attempt to promote harmony here at Phatmass, which is itself a kind sentiment, but kindness and charity are not the same thing. [/quote] So you would nullify your vote because why? You're against promoting harmony? I know that Icey's intent and what she posted are sincere. Her pledge was to make things more charitable here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) I didn't vote either, not because I thought the intent of the thread was anything but good, but because I don't think it will change anything. In the end, we are all ourselves, and we all have strengths and weaknesses. We can try to change, and try to keep kindness in mind, but, in the end, all we can do is try our best. We're all going to keep making mistakes. Besides, I'm not sure making Baby Jesus smile is a good criteria. Especially when babies are first born, you never know if it is smiling or gas. I'm being silly--that didn't really matter. Edited August 5, 2010 by IgnatiusofLoyola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridenteen Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='04 August 2010 - 10:19 PM' timestamp='1280978370' post='2152456'] Besides, I'm not sure making Baby Jesus smile is a good criteria. Especially when babies are first born, you never know if it is smiling or gas. I'm being silly--that didn't really matter. [/quote] JMJ I said that to a new mom and thought she was going to hit me...it was really funny[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_roll.gif[/img] My reflexes have gotten much quicker[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/saint.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='05 August 2010 - 12:40 AM' timestamp='1280976012' post='2152418'] I find it interesting that there are some regular phatmassers who have not signed this. Either they missed it or chose not to. If its the former, here it is, if its the latter, I'm curious as to why anyone would not want to strive for charity? [/quote] Because I am a bad person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 [quote name='Tridenteen' date='04 August 2010 - 11:13 PM' timestamp='1280977986' post='2152449'] JMJ Exactly. I never voted becaue although IcePrincess was "clear on her intent" I see it as being used by others as a manipulation of others. Kind of like the Animal Farm, come to think of it. [/quote] [quote name='hot stuff' date='04 August 2010 - 11:15 PM' timestamp='1280978124' post='2152452'] There are pmers who have been here for a long time who don't see it as a manipulation. Who are the "others" that you are referring to? [/quote] still curious Trid [quote name='Luthien' date='05 August 2010 - 12:23 AM' timestamp='1280982192' post='2152484'] Because I am a bad person. [/quote] I think you're adorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Trid rawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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