10-Years-Old? How Is This Possible?

[sistersintigo]

[quote name='Moosey' timestamp='1283397804' post='2166768']
If she continues to sing this way she will get lymph nodes and never sing again. My mother has a friend who this happened to. It's not uncommon.
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Whoooops.....that's not lymph, but LARYNX. Lymph nodes are under your arms (radical mastectomies).

[OnlySunshine]

I wanted to bring up a point that I have forgotten to mention. Someone (Moosey, I believe) mentioned that the young girl shown was moving her chin to produce vibrato. I remember my vocal teacher specifically telling me and my sister that this was a "no-no" in the singing world. The vibrato had to come from our stomach, not our throat or chin. When done correctly, it sounds much more natural, like Maria Callas (beautiful video by the way).

I was watching older videos of Charlotte Church last night. Notice how in the first one, she moves her chin and lips to make the vibrato sound, but in the second, which is a newer recording, she has gotten much more natural and is singing in her natural range.


Then:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8g6Tqqc6DQ[/media]

Now:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlnSyyGOb8[/media]

Edited September 2, 2010 by MaterMisericordiae

[Moosey]

[quote name='sistersintigo' timestamp='1283443543' post='2166984']
Whoooops.....that's not lymph, but LARYNX. Lymph nodes are under your arms (radical mastectomies).
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Oh Im sorry I meant to say "Nodes"

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1283401859' post='2166797']
[quote name='Moosey' timestamp='1283397804' post='2166768']
she will get lymph nodes.
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I've got limp nodes! They stop me from getting inflection! Wanna hear me sing?

[sistersintigo]

[quote name='Mark of the Cross' timestamp='1283467091' post='2167204']
I've got limp nodes! They stop me from getting inflection! Wanna hear me sing?
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The whole room is turning around to see why I am dying of laughter over here.

[OnlySunshine]

[quote name='Mark of the Cross' timestamp='1283467091' post='2167204']
I've got limp nodes! They stop me from getting inflection! Wanna hear me sing?
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That is just wrong...

[quote name='sistersintigo' timestamp='1283471101' post='2167247']
The whole room is turning around to see why I am dying of laughter over here.
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[Hilde]

tonsil nodes

[sistersintigo]

[quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1283414437' post='2166824']
I've been trained in voice, but I didn't start until I was 19. I'm a mezzo-soprano, and I was able to understand that I should not go out of my range as it will sound forced and my voice will crack.
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Miley Cyrus has an interesting problem right now -- and I don't just mean the nodes on her vocal chords, which she also has.
Not only is a lot of singing demanded of her, with extremes of range both high and low, but she also has to act a role and she is being coached to use the SPEAKING voice that is commercially competitive.
When I turned on the radio (TV doesn't happen in my apartment) and heard Miley speaking in a broadcast interview, the sound of her speaking voice startled me, and not in a good way. She doesn't speak where she sings, pitch-wise, at all. In fact her speaking voice is not just strained, but strained on the low, deep side. Broadcasters love a woman's voice to sound deep and throaty, the lower in pitch the better. She speaks as though she were doing her darndest to sound like Marg Helgenberger on CSI (hubba! hubba! hubba!) or Tricia Helfer on Battlestar Galactica. And if you have experience in voices, training, and coaching -- I can claim a little experience -- you can hear that Miley's low-pitched speaking voice is so far strained that it is off of her natural placement completely.
And Miley is only HOW old? It's frightening.

[jiyoung]

Yeah, it's kind of why I've come to advise classical training no matter what you're planning on going into. I'm biased because I'm a classical vocalist, but I've done other forms of music. I know that classical training teaches you to place your voice correctly and use it how you're supposed to--and kind of lets you know if you're doing it wrong. My training has focused a lot on the sensations of singing, because you can't necessarily trust what you hear when you sing--it may sound great, but if it feels wrong, then it probably is. And among other things, I think classical training teaches you how to recognize proper singing vs. bad singing.

[Moosey]

[quote name='jiyoung' timestamp='1283628396' post='2167883']
Yeah, it's kind of why I've come to advise classical training no matter what you're planning on going into. I'm biased because I'm a classical vocalist, but I've done other forms of music. I know that classical training teaches you to place your voice correctly and use it how you're supposed to--and kind of lets you know if you're doing it wrong. My training has focused a lot on the sensations of singing, because you can't necessarily trust what you hear when you sing--it may sound great, but if it feels wrong, then it probably is. And among other things, I think classical training teaches you how to recognize proper singing vs. bad singing.
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I was gonna post something along these lines but I couldn't word it right. Thanks!

[Jaime]

[quote name='jiyoung' timestamp='1283628396' post='2167883']
Yeah, it's kind of why I've come to advise classical training no matter what you're planning on going into. I'm biased because I'm a classical vocalist, but I've done other forms of music. I know that classical training teaches you to place your voice correctly and use it how you're supposed to--and kind of lets you know if you're doing it wrong. My training has focused a lot on the sensations of singing, because you can't necessarily trust what you hear when you sing--it may sound great, but if it feels wrong, then it probably is. And among other things, I think classical training teaches you how to recognize proper singing vs. bad singing.
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I just autotune



I sound like a rockstar

[CatherineM]

[quote name='jiyoung' timestamp='1283628396' post='2167883']
Yeah, it's kind of why I've come to advise classical training no matter what you're planning on going into. I'm biased because I'm a classical vocalist, but I've done other forms of music. I know that classical training teaches you to place your voice correctly and use it how you're supposed to--and kind of lets you know if you're doing it wrong. My training has focused a lot on the sensations of singing, because you can't necessarily trust what you hear when you sing--it may sound great, but if it feels wrong, then it probably is. And among other things, I think classical training teaches you how to recognize proper singing vs. bad singing.
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I agree completely. Although my vocal teacher was quite displeased when I took my classical teaching and used it for a college honky-tonk band.

[sistersintigo]

There was a singer popularly known as Cab Calloway, whose biggest success was "Minnie the Moocher" with "Hi-de-hi-de-hi-de-HO!" on the chorus. He had his own big band for years. And although popular music and jazz music moved away from the styles of his youth, he was able to go on performing and singing right up until the "Blues Brothers" movie, which gave him a supporting role.
Calloway comes to mind because, when he was young and learning his stuff, he took lessons in classical singing technique. When he opened up to questions or interviews, he made no secret of the fact that his technical foundations kept his voice in good working order, years after his jazz colleagues had sort of worn out their singing voices.

[littlesister]

Agreed all the way. I felt the same way about Charlotte Church right from the beginning : Too much too soon. That kind of push to too-early maturity just about ruins their chances of natural development, both as musicians and as persons.

[cmotherofpirl]

She sang in latin last night

http://www.wpxi.com/entertainment/24869924/detail.html